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Margie Phelps Speaks Out On Cordoba House, Illustrating Political Overlap

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Fred Phelps and his Westboro Baptist Church catch a lot of flack for their anti-gay, anti-America, anti-everything protests. The family shouldn't be dismissed as simple right wing nuts, though, because their politics aren't always so different than those found on the left.

Take, for example, Margie Phelps' remarks about Cordoba House, the so-called "Ground Zero Mosque," which she supports. "We say we're the melting pot, we say you get the practice your faith according to your conscience with no restraint from the government, you have that liberty. Why, against that framework, would anybody be so un-American as to suggest that Muslim Americans cannot worship their God according to their conscience," said Phelps, who argued Westboro's case before the Supreme Court earlier this week. Similar arguments have been made by people on the left, like Keith Olbermann.

But of course Phelps, who's Fred's daughter, couldn't resist getting in a low, decidedly discriminatory blow, telling Talking Points Memo, "Now [Islam is] a false religion, no question about that, but they don't have to agree with me on that."

As for the Supreme Court case, in which Westboro claims their First Amendment rights are being curtailed, Phelps said, "You've got 310 million saying 'God Bless America.' You've got 60 saying 'God Curse America.' That stinking First Amendment isn't worth the paper it's written on unless it protects those 60."

If nothing else, the Westboro Church should show us that politics isn't always black and white: people who are you rivals on one issue may be the closet ally on another.

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  1. I don't think there's any law against the Japanese living near Pearl Harbor, or Germans living anywhere around the Jewish neighborhoods of Europe.
    But, dammit, there should have been!

    Posted by: Rodney Wollam | Oct 9, 2010 12:10:16 AM


  2. Jew, Christian, Muslim. Ah,yes. Good old RELIGION. First it was the Jews that used someone named Abraham and how he and his decendents lived as the basis for a religion using a single GOD format. (An Egyptian King came up with a single GOD idea that predated Moses.)
    Then a Roman tax collector named Sol (Now known as Saint Paul) took the preachings a Jewish heretic named Jesus and altered the Abraham story to come up with what is now the Christian Religion.
    After a few centuries of Christian and Jewish wars where they were each justifying killing each other over which GOD was the best, along came an Arab named Mohammed (sp?) who came up with a third version of the Abraham story to give us the Muslim Religion.
    Now, all three groups are fighting and killing each other all over the world.
    I wonder what Abraham would say if he were around now?

    Posted by: Jerry6 | Oct 9, 2010 5:37:59 PM


  3. Before launching their "God hates..." schtick, Phelps and family were Democratic Party activists. In 1988, Phelps hosted a fundraiser at his home for Al Gore's presidential campaign, attended by Al and wife Tipper. (Google "Fred Phelps" and "Al Gore" and click on "images" to see photos of that event.) The Phelps family was formally invited to both Clinton-Gore inaugurations and were delegates to the Democratic National Convention. One of Phelps' sons ran for governor of Kansas in the Democratic primary.

    Posted by: Ironic | Nov 28, 2010 2:42:25 AM



  4. This is not a church, this is a hate group. Westboro Baptist Church spreads its hate through picketing in our streets, provoking attacks, with abusive language and flag desecration, attempting to create a confrontation. This is not about protesting, freedom, or God. They are in it for the money and the press; this is a family law firm. They are not a "church." It is a scam. They go after anything that can get them in the news. This is a family of lawyers using this “god hates you” thing to make money.

    Posted by: cb | Aug 5, 2011 12:29:25 PM


  5. Westboro Baptist Church spreads its hate through picketing in our streets, provoking attacks, with abusive language and flag desecration, attempting to create a confrontation. This is not a church, this is a hate group. This is not about protesting, freedom, or God. They are in it for the money and the press; this is a family law firm. They are not a "church." It is a scam. They go after anything that can get them in the news. This is a family of lawyers using this “god hates you” thing to make money. It is time for this scam to end.

    Posted by: cb | Oct 6, 2011 12:02:08 AM


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