Richard Chamberlain: Gay Leading Men Should Remain Closeted

The one-time leading man tells the Advocate:

Rc You were a wildly successful closeted actor during a period of time when coming out was unheard of, but the climate of acceptance has significantly changed in recent years. How do you feel about gay actors who still remain closeted as we near 2011?

"It’s complicated. There’s still a tremendous amount of homophobia in our culture. It’s regrettable, it’s stupid, it’s heartless, and it’s immoral, but there it is. For an actor to be working is a kind of miracle, because most actors aren’t, so it’s just silly for a working actor to say, “Oh, I don’t care if anybody knows I’m gay” — especially if you’re a leading man. Personally, I wouldn’t advise a gay leading man–type actor to come out."

When can a leading man come out — when he’s 69 and promoting a memoir?

"I have no idea. Despite all the wonderful advances that have been made, it’s still dangerous for an actor to talk about that in our extremely misguided culture. Look at what happened in California with Proposition 8. Please, don’t pretend that we’re suddenly all wonderfully, blissfully accepted."

Chamberlain was outed by French magazine Nous Deux in 1989 but only publicly came out in his 2003 autobiography, Shattered Love, at the age of 69.

Comments

  1. Mike in the Tundra says

    Even today, he’s dealing with a lot of internalized homophobia. A year or so ago, he was offered a rather good part in a play called “Exit Strategy.” Apparently, the reason he gave was that he doesn’t play gay roles.

  2. Bobby says

    Excellent post Arjun. The stigma will never be removed unless brave people are willing to do their part in chipping away at it.

    Richard Chamberlain is from another time. He needs to come into the 21st Century.

  3. Ian says

    The quotation is correct…

    Please, don’t pretend that we’re suddenly all wonderfully, blissfully accepted.

    Now, if more people don’t step forward then more change will never happen but it many careers, being gay is not accepted and not cool.
    Why do you think we have so many suicides, etc. There is a lot of HATE. I think Richard was just being realistic

  4. Mike in the Tundra says

    That’s a good point Frank, but that is the reason he gave in the summer of 2009. Considering he didn’t have to give a reason, there was some kind of burr under his saddle. Although, my info was secondhand, it did come from the author of the play.

  5. jomicur says

    This is the exact same argument that has been advanced to dissuade people in EVERY industry from coming out. If a great many people had not ignored this kind of advice and decided to be themselves and live honestly, nothing would have changed. Chamberlain is arguing for dishonesty and hypocrisy. Our community has seen more than enough of both.

  6. says

    He wasn’t being realistic at all.

    Look. He did what he was told, stayed in the closet and had a fairly decent run. But there was a “sell by” date on his talent and after he reached a certain age it was over. So what did he do? “Re-invent himself” by coming out. And wy did he come out? Because of the hard work a gay rights movement he’d despised made possible for him and every other non-heterosexual in and out of show business.

    As for those “Leading man roles” they’re gone. “The Toursit” — a seemingly “sure thing” with Johnny Depp and Anglina Jolie TANKED.

    Smart young actors like Ryan Gosling and James Franco are carving out careers for themselevs by doing the very sort of parts agents of the past would have told them to steer clear of.

    Out actors like Chris Colfer, Jane Lynch, Jesse Tyler Ferguson and of course NPH are totall rewriting the script that Chamberlain’s generation stood by.

    Of course that won’t stop the Internalized Homophobes who troll this site from proclaiming the “correctness” of his words.

  7. candideinnc says

    The opportunities for gay actors is greater today than it was when Chamberlain was in his heyday. We do have gays in shows, tut they also tend to be stereotyped, limiting their choices of roles. As a career, I think the actor may be more constrained by his career than, say, a lawyer or a doctor or carpenter who wants to come out. I think Chamberlain may be giving good advice to actors. It is a shame it is bad advice for the gay community. Still, the walls are very slowly coming down, and there are some brave souls who don’t heed these words of caution who make it better for us all.

  8. WayneMPLS says

    Ahh, blame being gay for your failures… As others have said, I really think it is a generational thing – this line of thought.

    However, I can understand, it must have hurt to know you are talented but you’d have to muzzle everything about you… sounds a lot like DADT.

    I don’t see Chamberlain like I see Rupert Everett, however, …as being bitter.

    Everett’s movie “Another Country” was one of the first gay films I had ever seen. Even though later in his career he says coming out destroyed it.

    I am not sure I agree with him, he has been working steadily since 1982 writing, performing in movies and theatre and even making pop music…

    How the hell did this become about Rupert Everett? Oh yeah, it was about a year ago that he said the same thing as Chamberlain.

    It seems like such a paradox that an industry, which is basically run by gays, has such a problem with them. But then, I don’t understand gay Republicans either. Man, the closet sure messes people up.

    Stop being afraid gentlemen, be yourselves, change perceptions, move with the times, we all understand why you were closeted BACK THEN. But this is a new age and if we hide ourselves we slow the momentum others have fought for on our behalf.

    This whole idea that gay actors cannot play a believable straight leading role and that straight actors are “brave” for playing gay is so stupid. It goes against everything being an actor is about… pretending to be something you’re not… HEY maybe that’s the problem!!!

  9. candideinnc says

    Some people find it easy to judge others for being in the closet. I am not in the closet, and had to go through the years of personal and professional turmoil that coming out engenders. I think it is ultimately enlightening and good for the community. Still, I don’t find it necessary to condemn those who either have not come out or caution others that the coming out process is fraught with problems. I am sorry, David, but yours is really a somewhat arrogant attitutude.

  10. TJ says

    I don’t put my name out on any comment thread online. I prefer to see it as being prudent, not in the closet. It has nothing to do with being gay.

    As for being an out, gay actor, perhaps if those in power (and with the money) felt that a leading actor would still be a box office winner if he/she were out, there would probably be more out actors. It seems a bit of a Catch 22, though. Unless one is out and is given the chance, where is the proof? And who wants to take the chance?

  11. Brian says

    Grow up, have some self respect, live an authentic life. If you can’t be who you are in your chosen profession, choose something else. Sorry closet people, it IS that simple.

  12. James in BCN says

    The title here is incorrect. Chamberlain doesn’t say leading men actors “should” remain in the closet. Using “should” indicates he believes the fact to be a general rule and the listed quote doesn’t support this.

    Please, let’s be less sensational with the titles.

  13. says

    “For an actor to be working is a kind of miracle, because most actors aren’t …”

    Is Chamberlain working or is he not? Rupert Everett was mentioned upthread. Is he working or not?

    Not – that’s the most common answer for an actor, as Chamberlain says. There have always been people who have truncated one part of their lives to serve another – lots of destroyed marriages and bitter children among the personal lives of straight “stars.”

    An out actor bothers the marketing people, which means it bothers the money people, which means it impinges on the casting director’s choices. No actor wants an obstacle to their being cast in a role, especially one that could pay the bills for years – and include FAME!

    Most stars complain about fame once they have it. You’re not going to have a healthy life in the closet, marquee star name or no. You’re not going to be a better actor for maintaining a false front off camera.

  14. True Words says

    Money is a powerful force and many gay actors want to “do” their job without all of the distraction of being “the gay actor”.

    1. Wentworth Miller (gay)

    2. Anderson Cooper (gay and not an actor)

    3. Matt Dillion (bisexual)

    4. Matt Bomer (gay)

    5. Will Smith (bisexual)

  15. True Words says

    Furthermore on the set of movies, TV shows, etc…people know who are gay and they are living well adjusted lives with partners visiting, attending award shows, etc…the general public with an average IQ of 90 does not need to know anything about someone’s personal life.

    I mean come on, if you guys are so convinced this is the way each person should live “great” that is your opinion but to say that these people are living lies I have to call bullshit.

    Reporters and others in the media can easily be directed to ask questions that are not personal because well; I do not really care that Cameron Diaz can deep throat A-Rod’s 9.5 inches of uncut dick.

    If you are so convinced of this course of action; take your savings and place a full page ad in your local paper stating that “YOU ARE GAY” and well you will quickly see that you wasted your money (that you will not get back) and the love will not be magically bestowed upon you.

    I care more about our civic leaders, fire fighters, police officer and teachers receiving their fair share of worthy of attention for keeping us as a society safe and hopefully educated…not the personal lives of a distant star.

  16. Phil says

    The interviewer was provocative by nudging Chamberlain to give people advice, but Chamberlain made a mistake by giving advice based on his own past decisions and telling people they should do what he did. If you don’t know the answer to a question, you need to have enough common sense to say, “I don’t know.” Instead, Chamberlain took the bait and made a fool of himself.

  17. Sancho says

    I don’t see how it helps LGBTQ people for young aspiring gay actors never to achieve careers or public visibility as a direct result of agents and casting directors passing them over in favor of straight competitors who are just as talented and will be seen as “better investments” by the industry.

    It’s one thing to say that Famous Actor X Should Come Out for the public impact such a statement would make – though again, the question of the ideal moment for maximum impact is very hard to calculate. But young actors who are out from the beginning are greatly reducing their career prospects, which means they’re far less likely to ever be in a position to be a public role model – they will always be competing for roles, and being openly gay is going to be a liability. Not only is it unfair to demand that the actors give up their dreams, no greater good is achieved by them ending up working in an office instead of in front of the cameras.

    (And yes, there’s Chris Colfer, but he’s playing a gay character written for him in a uniquely gay-affirmative project – how far Colfer’s career goes after Kurt graduates is a huge question mark. He might end up spending his younger years playing a succession of two-dimensional sassy gay sidekicks and when he’s older endlessly repeating Albin in bad regional theater productions of LA CAGE AUX FOLLES. GLEE is such an anomaly that you can’t draw general conclusions from it.)

  18. Nicholas says

    Without being catty; if you were a good enough actor wouldn’t it NOT matter if you were gay or not?

    I mean, if we look at Neil Patrick Harris, he’s playing one of the most masculine, womanizing, misogynistic men on television. So well, in fact, that he’s nominated for awards.

    Hell, even Sean Hayes, who’s INCREDIBLY flamboyant (and yes, I realize it took him awhile to come out, but I don’t care about that; it’s each person’s own personal right whether or not they come out.” is in one of the most successful plays on broadway right now as a straight male courting a young woman.

    And lest we forget about the heterosexual men who don’t care playing gay or straight; James Franco, Antonio Banderas, Daniel Craig, The Culkin Brothers, etc etc.

    This isn’t about being gay or straight in Hollywood, this is about whether or not you can hack it; and if you’re good enough, it obviously doesn’t matter if you’re queer or not.

  19. StillMarriedinCalifornia says

    I am gay actor and have been out since I was 19 — in 1979. Never in a million years would I trade my self respect and living open and honestly for more money and fame. If we all took Mr. Chamberlain’s advice, nothing would ever change. He couldn’t be more wrong. People like True Words are part of the problem not part of the solution.

  20. GregV says

    Chamberlain was a leading man back when white men were threatened with jail for marrying black women, and men were threatened with jail for even dancing with other men. It was, indeed a very different time.
    He trivializes and reduces to “silly” the choice some people make to be honest in this new and less unenlightened era.
    I’ve never heard ANY out actor even once say anything approaching: “Suddenly, we’re wonderfully, blissfully acepted.”
    Ellen faced up to homophobia at the height of popularity of the comedy show on which she was the lead. NPH’s career has only gotten bigger.
    If an actor like Tom Cruise were to suddenly announce that he’s gay and he doesn’t care if anyone knows anymore, it would be far from “silly.” He has more money than most people would spend in a hundred years. To some people, especially those who don’t NEED a job, helping to change the world for the better may be more important than that next job or paycheck.
    And in this day and age, being out and honest means some doors will close but others will open. But at least those doors that open can be stepped into with integrity.

    @True Words: Hearing an actress mention her spouse’s name is a far cry from hearing her describe what she does with her husband’s graphically-described penis.

  21. Sancho says

    Just a follow-up to Brian’s thought about being “who you are in your chosen profession”: there’s an assumption here that a person’s romantic/sexual life is their “authentic” life, while their career is the way they pay their bills and support that life – which leads to the conclusion that a person should be willing to give up a career for the sake of fully living their romantic/sexual identity.

    This isn’t true for everyone. I know a lot of writers and performers whose careers are their real calling; writing or acting or dancing or singing is at the core of their being, and it’s every bit as important, if not more so, than any romantic relationships they might have. It’s true that most people have a job that funds their “real” life, but for some people, it’s what they do that gives their lives substance and meaning. They sometimes don’t make the best life partners, but that’s because a romantic relationship isn’t what they need most to feel fulfilled. You can’t assume that everyone should make the same life decisions based on love being the unquestioned top priority.

  22. BobN says

    “an old man’s world view”

    It’s thank to the world view of a LOT of old men that you’re not cowering in the closet, legally a criminal, and skulking around highway rest stops before returning home to a loveless marriage with a woman.

    Damn whippersnappers…

  23. Tell It Like It Is says

    There may be a handfull of openly gay actors who have successful careers, like Neil Patrick Harris.

    But I mean – come on. Chris Colfer plays a gay character.

    I don’t think Chamberlain is being mean or wrong. He is being realistic. He is right. An actor who is working is lucky to be working as an actor. Most actors are working in offices, bartending, or waiting tables to pay their bills.

    We still have yet to see the public buy a leading man who is openly gay play a straight love interest on film in a big scale. I am talking on a Matt Damon or Brad Pitt leading man level.

    It is easy for us to point fingers and tell what is morally right or worng but are we all going to chip in on any lost income or pay bills when the jobs stop coming? Everyone is so quick to judge and preach when they are not in that position – it is laughable.

  24. anon says

    RC is trying to justify his closeted past. We won’t really know what happens to an A-List actor who comes out until a few do. However, there are very few leading roles compared to character roles, so one is making one’s life more difficult pursuing that. The advice should be clearly delineated if given at all: don’t bother with going for leading man roles if you are gay, closeted or not. The purpose of stars these days is to get the movie made, not to get the tickets sold. Stars don’t sell movie tickets these days. Rather, they get the movie financed. The people who finance movies try to reduce risk by buying star “power” despite all the evidence that stars have no power. The idea is that stars will get the free publicity needed to push the movie in more theaters where the first weekend gross will represent 80% of the movie’s profits and before word-of-mouth kills the movie dead for viewers. Everything is geared towards the first-night, first weekend figures, and for that you need star power. It’s a failing strategy, a desperate strategy, but seemingly the only way to reduce risk.

    So, gay actor, don’t bother, stick to well playing supporting roles and good scene-stealing characters. Otherwise, it’s like living your life waiting to win the lottery.

  25. StillMarriedinCalifornia says

    @Tell It Like It Is “Everyone is so quick to judge and preach when they are not in that position – it is laughable.”
    And people like you are encouraging actors to be in the closet when YOU aren’t in that position. Isn’t that laughable as well?

    As an openly gay actor for the last 31 years, I feel I am qualified to give advice. And I say come out and be happy. I may have made less money because I am gay, but I have made a decent living and have my self respect and a wonderful husband. I have wonderful friends and colleagues (and even some fans) who like me for the real me instead of some lie that I am putting out there. I wouldn’t trade any of it for fame and fortune.
    Nearly every celebrity (or non-celebrity) that has come out has said their life is so much better and regrets not coming out sooner.
    Very, very few (the bitter Rupert Everett comes to mind) have expressed any regret. That speaks volumes.
    You will be happier and you will help pave the way for others as well as making strides towards equality which will make your own future more comfortable if you come out–WHATEVER your profession.

    And Sancho–I know a few actors, gay and straight, who put their career ahead of everything else because they were so driven and performing was the only thing that gave their life “substance and meaning”. Most of them, even if wildly successful and rich beyond belief, eventually realized that they were lonely and sad and realized that career does not take the place of love.

  26. MrRoboto says

    I don’t agree with giving gay actors advice to stay closeted. I think you should choose your own path and let it be so. But what Richard says is the sad truth of the Hollywood industry. So many have trotted out NPH, Jane Lynch, Chris Colfer, et al as their examples, and they’re bullshit examples, especially given Richard’s mention specifically of leading man types. Can ANY of you name a leading man role in a big budget movie or TV production that is currently, or even recently, being played by an out gay actor? Oh yeah, that’s right. The answer is zero.

    NPH – cast as a womanizing stud BEFORE being forced out by pending tabloid reports. I love him. I admire him. I like that his career in awards show hosting and character role guest spots has boomed, but he won’t be getting a leading man role anytime soon, if ever. And I can’t say I honestly believe he would have ever been cast as Barney Stinson if he’d been out before HIMYM was being cast.

    Jane Lynch – a rock star in my book. Any leading man roles in her future? Doubt it. Getting less facetious, any straight romantic female leads? Doubt it. And despite what anyone thinks, Jane wasn’t exactly rolling in money and affluence before Glee. She worked steadily and was awesome in her character roles. Glee was lightning in a bottle, and like many, Jane’s luck crossed paths with her awesome talent.

    Chris Colfer – it’s been said above by others quite well. Once Glee is over, I don’t see a gigantic amount of leading man roles or even straight roles in his future. Talented, amazing kid, and I hope for more for him. And, lest we forget, he was pretty much pushed out of the closet quite reluctantly last year. He didn’t come out, guns blazing.

    Addressing some of the straw men here, there’s David Ehrenstein’s mention of Ryan Gosling and James Franco choosing offbeat roles and doing quite well. Could either one be cast in a leading man role tomorrow? In a heartbeat. Has either been cast in a leading man role recently? Both. Would either one be cast in a leading man role if either suddenly surprised the hell out of us and came out as a gay actor? It would be nice to think so, but I sincerely doubt it.

    The other one is STILLMARRIEDINCALIFORNIA, who I’m so proud of for coming out in 1979 and being out that long. Bravo. I’m so happy for you. But, seriously, when was that last leading man or straight romantic lead part that you even got to read for, let alone cast for? There is no shame in playing gay parts, or even smaller character parts, for the rest of your life. But that was your choice.

    I know a lot of gay actors. Out and otherwise. I love my out gay actor friends and I understand the choices they’ve made. At the buffet that is their work, they’ve consciously made the choice to limit their options. It sucks that they had to do that, because one thing I can confidently say is that virtually no actor I have ever known chose to be one simply to be rich or famous. They chose that path because they like to act, they like to play persons different from themselves. Being rich or famous was only that extra thing that helped them not have to worry about the next paycheck or where their healthcare was going to come from, and not have to keep two or three other jobs that might have prevented them from making that audition for that one perfect part that would change everything.

    Do I hope that eventually changes and that some wildly famous leading man takes the charge and blazes a path for others to follow? Yes. Because I’d like so many of my gay actor friends to have more opportunities than they already do. But I don’t blame them for not understanding the game as it’s currently played and making the difficult choice to keep working, and frequently, in their chosen profession. Outing yourself publicly limits your options. Sucks that it’s so, but it’s so. Anyone who doesn’t understand that should probably find another line of work.

  27. Sargon Bighorn says

    Come out or don’t who really cares. But don’t expect Out and Proud Americans to think you’ve climbed mountains and defeated demons when YOU are outed or come out. Hiding in the darkness because your work is more important than your honesty and integrity is your free choice which I won’t prevent you from making. But again, you’re NO HERO when you do come out under a cloud of fear and self hatred.

  28. StillMarriedinCalifornia says

    MrRoboto–I play all kinds of roles, gay, straight, leading and character. I make enough money to have health insurance and a comfortable life. There already are openly gay actors playing leading men and there will be more and more as long as people don’t keep excusing cowardice and greed. All the same arguments you people are making were used to keep people of color from playing leading roles. Don’t you see how you are playing right into the hands of those who resist change at every turn and keep us from achieving equality?

  29. says

    Which is why the media should do its job and report truthfully on public figures even when they won’t report truthfully on themselves. That’s separate from any sort of political angle, but politically speaking, exposure to information about who’s really gay is also the only thing that will help erode homophobia.

  30. rjp3 says

    Every career has potential negative impact by coming out — not just acting and singing.

    He let others do the work while he took advantage of the freedoms they fought for.

    Self Serving Fame Whore ….

  31. says

    The words “leading man” (“actor who plays the leading male role”) lead automatically to the concept of the role of a straight character in Chamberlain’s mind (regardless of the orientation of the actor). That is probably true for most people, and this is the heart of the problem.

    What was the last gay James Bond-type or Jason Bourne-type character in a blockbuster movie?

  32. says

    Darlings, I don’t have time for the pros and cons.
    Bottom line, no pun intended,
    only an individual knows if his environment is safe to come out in.
    Self righteous activists don’t know that, nor do people who have come out and want to pretend they have done something grand for gay rights. Actually, ignorant bitches who come out make us all look like hell.
    RC is right. Hollywood leading men have to appeal to a public, many of whom are homophobic.
    There are safe jobs and not so safe jobs, safe places and not so safe places.
    Again, only the inidividula knows if his environment is safe to come out in. You all don’t know that, so please stop issuing orders to everyone else, heartless queens.

  33. says

    According to a number of posters in here, J (including one who claims to love his gay actors friends) the answer is “yes.”

    What’ at stake is the heterosexuality itself, and its illusion of absolute omnipotence. The whole world is supposed to be striaght you see. Anytime Teh Ghey raises its head it shatters that illusuion. So everything must be done to smack those homos down! They’ve got to “know their place” you see. They’re not supposed to have “real” careers as “leading men.” So — heaven forbid — they manage to have teriffic careers anyway, every effort must be made to belittle them as much as possible.

    It’s The Law you see.

  34. MrRoboto says

    StillMarriedInCalifornia – Sorry if I misstated your experience, though I’d be curious to know which leading man roles you’ve played in film and television, because I think that’s what Richard Chamberlain is referring to. And I’m going by the standard definition of a leading man as the top-billed male actor who plays the romantic lead against a top-billed female actress.

    I was going to say that I don’t know of any 100% out gay actors (not those we suspect, or who we informally know are who are gay, but who have never confirmed one way or another) who have recently played a top-billed leading man role. But then there’s Sean Hayes in Promises, Promises. And Cheyenne Jackson did it a couple years back in Xanadu. Other than those two, I can’t think of one.

    And I think that’s a shame. I’m not trying to say that actors should stay in the closet. Actors should do whatever feels right for them. I just don’t think we should blame or vilify actors who are gay from not publicly announcing their sexuality, and I also don’t think we should pile on gay actors like Richard Chamberlain who actually know how this industry works and give younger actors advice based on their experience.

  35. says

    I am disgusted with Richard Chamberlain. I agree wholeheartedly with David Ehrenstein in that DICK’s sell date has long gone. Who cares about him? People looking back to the mythical golden age of television? He was never even that good an actor. His time has long gone, and to come out with this disgusting piece of advice? Sweet Sonny Chiba, how the HELL is any progress to be made if brave souls don’t stand up for themselves and what they believe in?

    I guess LGBT actors should stay closeted – safe in their illusion of heterosexuality and in their fear according to DICK. Richard Chamberlain disgusts me. I hope he dies in obscurity.

  36. Rikard says

    never a fan of RC though I’m of a generation who was. His comments are sagacious and realistic. It’s not advice for being a happy gay actor. It’s advice for being a successful leading man. That leading man distinction has some specific qualities, but like the female counterpart, the ingenue, sexuality is key. The fact that homosexuality runs at cross purposes to characters drawn as male/female archetypes is hardly a surprise. The puling children of the gay community seem to think change comes because they fervently will it so. Change comes when we (society) learn we can believe differently and believe that change improves us.

  37. Bernadette says

    I don’t know why people on here always use Neil Patrick Harris as an example for an openely gay actor who successfully plays a straight man in a tv show. He plays a straight man in a sitcom. A genre in which nothing is to be taken seriously, neither the situations nor the characters themselves.

    Apart from that, he plays a misogynist, a woman hater. Someone whose relationships with women are so incredibly dysfunctional that they’re practically non-existent.
    And isn’t their blatant hatred for women and likewise fear of gay people why most gay men claim many rappers to be actually secretly gay?

    My point is, he doesn’t play a loving boyfriend, fiancé or husband in a drama or even serious tv show, he plays the most unrealistic, most exaggerated character in
    ‘How I met your mother’ so that nobody is going to take him seriously. His character is not supposed to be taken seriously.

    That’s why I don’t think that he can be seen as a paradigm of an openly gay actor who managed to prove the general audience wrong by showing them that a gay person can play a straight character.

  38. says

    “Because most people grew up with a nice image of God and Jesus while being bombarded with “”God created Adam and Eve and not Adam and Steve”” rethoric or the image of gay men being a comic relief sidekick character who’s only good for a punchline and shopping with the girls.

    It is considered (by studio analysts and the studio execs) that for the mainstream audience it’s too challenging and distracting to deal with an out actor to play something else than a comic relief sidekick character.

    And Hollywood gives the mainstream audience what it wants in order to get their money. Because after all (Blockbuster) Hollywood is a business and not an education center challenging people’s core believes.

    But compared to two decades ago a lot of changes took place and I believe that in two decades (of easy online access of what stars are really like in privat) nobody will care about the sexual identiy of an actor (but who’s he doing it with will still peak people’s interest).”

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