1. ratbastard says

    It’s tragic he wasn’t being appropriately treated for his mental illness(s). The streets of our country are filled with mentally ill people. We, as a society, scorn them. Institutions that were set up to isolate potentially violent mentally ill people were all shut down during the 70’s and seriously mentally ill folks were integrated into society and our communities. At least that was the alleged idea. In fact, just like in the days of mental hospitals, etc., many seriously mentally ill people are simply drugged up out of their gord and just aimless roam around, often homeless and destitute, and/or taken advantage of and abused. And this is FAR from unique to the U.S.

  2. TANK says

    why’s that? You don’t think it’s good to expose enthusiastic praise of a nutter’s spree killing by a fringe extremist political movement? I think it’s great. They should broadcast their joy to the world…get it out in the light of day for people to see while reminding all that a nine year old girl was killed. Anything to expedite and cement their inevitable political irrelevancy.

    It’s a frame job, megamike! He’s just a patsy for the new world order! LOL!

  3. ratbastard says


    ‘Too bad the tea baggers and wingnuts are applauding the assassinations.’

    Too bad the ‘MoonBats’ also applaud violence. Unfortunately, the average, normal person is stuck in-between this tug of war between ‘Wingnuts’ and ‘Moonbats’.


    It’s really very simple, Tank and everyone else: Jared Loughner is seriously mentally ill and not receiving appropriate treatment and/or not following a treatment regiment. The politics, etc., are strictly secondary.

  4. TANK says

    Thank you, RB. I wouldn’t have understood without your incisive commentary, as simple as the sitch might be. You’ve rendered your service admirably, citizen! Dismissed.

  5. Ken says

    Obviously this guy is nuts but I do beleive politics and the kind of rhetoric we have been hearing from conservatives the past couple of years played a role in setting him off.

  6. anon says

    Hopefully the story coming out is at least mostly true. However, with our least competent law enforcement agency on the job (FBI) hopes dim that we’ll get a complete picture. An agency set up rapidly in the 1920s as a PR move to show the feds were going up against the “epidemic” of rich family kidnappings, and mismanaged by JE Hoover for 50 years, and which has one of the worst arrest and conviction rates anywhere should not take high profile and potentially politically sensitive cases like this as a matter of course. Not to mention the dithering by the AG on Guantanamo, et al. Yes, by all means, let the agency that almost bungled the OK city bombing investigation and various terror trials in the last 10 years continue with their work.

  7. ratbastard says

    1)Lone ‘Deranged’ gunman of questionable ideological background attempts political assassination, killing 6 people and injuring others

    2)Obama Orders Internet ID for Americans

    3)Feds Order Twitter to Hand Over Wikileaks Records

    The government is now looking into tightening security [isolating them from the general citizens who elected them and who they work nominally for] around government officials.

    Coincidence? Is there something to the wingnut ‘Conspiracy’ theory(s) regarding psychop and false-flag operations designed to tighten government control over our society, especially the ‘Wild West’ internet?

  8. Ted B. (Charging Rhino) says

    “( @JEFFUWS,’Too bad the tea baggers and wingnuts are applauding the assassinations.’)”

    Unless you have actual quotes, just shut your slanderous trap. This has NOTHING to do with the Tea Party… The only hate-monger quoted here is you!!

  9. John Merzetti says

    Such a tragedy; but, unfortunately, likely only the first of many to occur thanks to the rhetoric of Sarah Palin et al.

    I know most of you hold it dear, but this is a perfect example of why your country has to rid itself of the second amendment. With it in place, as Sharon Angle predicted, there will be more people seeking “second-amendment remedies”.

  10. Ian says

    I’m so sad for all the victims and their families. I hope that this becomes a tipping point or watershed moment in American political discourse. Free speech is a reponsibilty as well as a right. If a politician is opposed to anothers policy positions then he/she can descibe why and how his/her own positions are better. But there is no right to post your opponents pic in the crosshairs and and statements like ‘lock and load’ etc.

  11. Matt26 says

    You know this just makes me sad.
    I feel sad for people who died there and for their love ones, I feel sad for those who were injured and their families.
    But I also feel sad for this young man and his family. He did a horrible thing, but clearly had deep mental problems for years. I am not saying it is in any way an excuse to do what he did.

    Anyone who is applauding for this, needs also help.

  12. candide says

    @Tank This is off topic but nice call when you said DADT wouldn’t be repealed and it was Obama’s fault! Just wanted to congratulate you. Keep your keen political insights coming!

  13. ty says

    @ Ratbastard, If you think leftists are so violent, why is it that Liberals are the ones targeted (besides Reagan)? There has never been a righty killed in this country, only liberals. And it is the righties that are killing net neutrality, not the liberals. Libertas means freedom in latin, Einstein.

  14. TANK says

    Thing about faith is that it can’t be falsified, candide…which means that everything and nothing is evidence for it.

    This is a little off topic but,

    “You wanna hurt me? Go right ahead if it makes you feel any better. I’m an easy target. Yeah, you’re right. I talk too much. I also listen too much. I could be a cold-hearted cynic like you, but I don’t like to hurt people’s feelings. Well, you think what you want about me. I’m not changing. I like me. My dog likes me. My customers like me. ‘Cause I’m the real article. What you see is what you get.”


  15. Paul R says

    The home page for the Washington Post is covered with articles indicating that people have thought this guy was a psycho for years and that his propensity for violence was widely recognized. Yet, as so often happens, nothing was done to control or help him.

  16. candide says

    @Tank Enough of the Stuart Smalley routine! Yes, you’re good enough, you’re smart enough, and doggon it, people like you.

    BTW, you were the one heaping out the insults bigtime to those of us who had confidence in O and the Dems to get this done. Advocates for the gay cause like you we don’t need.

  17. TANK says

    And enough with your shabby political hucksterism routine.

    Wooosh…that’s the sound of you missing the point again…and again…and again. We don’t need mindless toys of political agendas that don’t really concern gay rights like you, either. Be grateful, though…because repeal was not on the agenda for his first term. But by all means, continue to sing his praises while overlooking ENDA and DOMA. Shill.

  18. Contrarian says

    There are important issues which need sober, intelligent and thoughtful analysis, most importantly Arizona’s concealed weapons policy. Then, as the Pima county sheriff said with obvious emotion, we need to stop the vitriol in our society starting with those who hide behind the description of “entertainer”
    i.e. talk radio.

    Towleroad’s comment threads, sadly, have become, like some gamers fantasy world, troll central. This forum is not the place for such discussion, though often good for a laugh.

  19. David Mudkips says

    Totally not relevant, but it’s interesting that all most of his posts come in triplets. This, this+, therefor. Totally mechanical and repetitive in thought.

  20. ratbastard says


    You need a serious history lesson. I was standing at Boston Police HQ this afternoon. It’s called 1 Schroeder Plaza after a police officer who was shot in the back and died during a bank robbery committed by a group of white, leftist ‘Radicals’ and black Marxists in ‘Liberation Theology’. A white, upper middle class b*tch named Kathern Ann Power was among them. Below is a wiki page in her honor.

    This is just one of MANY examples of leftist inspired violence in America. And we won’t even get into the rest of the world. MILLIONS have died because of leftist dictators and ideology. They are no better than fascists.

  21. ratbastard says

    After the robbery and murder, Kathern Ann Power moved into a home in Lebanon, Oregon, with her son Jamie and boyfriend Ron Duncan.[1] For most of this time in hiding, she lived in Lebanon in the Willamette Valley.[2] While a fugitive, Power assumed the alias of Alice Louise Metzinger and married Ron Duncan.[2] Power took her alias in 1977 from the birth certificate of an infant that had died the year before Katherine was born.

    While living in Oregon, Power taught cooking classes at Linn-Benton Community College in Albany and partly owned or worked at restaurants in Corvallis and Eugene.[2] The restaurant she partly owned in Eugene was Napoli Restaurant and Bakery.[8] She was even a finalist to become the food writer for the local paper, the Corvallis Gazette-Times

    As time passed, Power developed a desire to stop living the lie that was her existence under her assumed name.[14] Through therapy which included participation in a mock trial of a soldier for killing civilians during the Vietnam War…


    Officer Walter Schroeder was 42 years old at the time of his murder. He left behind his wife and their nine children, aged, 17, 15, 13, 10, 9, 7, 6, 2, and 11 months.

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  23. candide says

    @Tank Political reality and you just don’t mix, do they? Can’t have everything at once and you throw a hissy fit. Nice! Keep on shepherding people into the enemy camp and we’ll see more pushbacks on our achievements, like we’re seeing in lots of state houses across the country.

  24. Izod says

    The scary thing is that we are being told that this guy is crazy but what if the guy actually discovered something that he shouldnt have.

    We lock up people in this country and execute them so the truth cannot be heard.

    Whatever his issue; killing innocents is not appropriate and should never be lauded by any party. That 9 year old girl should never have been a victim nor should any of them.

    If he wanted to shoot something, he should have damaged property not humans. Break something in the system. Dont hurt human beings.

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