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Patience Running Out in Albany Over Delay on Marriage Equality, Other Votes: VIDEO


NY senate Democrats are pissed. Sens. Liz Krueger, Adriano Espaillat and Michael Gianaris held a press conference a short time ago on the hours wasted this week by Senate GOP with little action on many measures as well as marriage equality.

Said Espaillat: "To continue to play with people's lives is not acceptable."


City Room also notes that patience is wearing thin:

“It’s outrageous,” said State Senator Liz Krueger, a Manhattan Democrat. “We were sent home last night without really any explanation.”

But Thomas Libous, the Senate Republican deputy majority leader, said that negotiations were on track and that he expected votes on most issues early Friday afternoon. Asked whether gay marriage could be voted on Friday, Mr. Libous said yes. “Nobody wants to stay here tomorrow,” he said.

Gay rights advocates, who had been careful not to criticize the Senate Republican majority publicly, shifted their strategy on Friday, pointedly expressing their impatience.

“It’s time for a vote,” said Brian Ellner, the head of the marriage effort for the Human Rights Campaign, a gay rights group. “This is a democracy, and a supermajority of New Yorkers support equality. The time is now. Period.”

Meanwhile, the din of activists on both sides has died down as the Senate lobby is in lockdown, Rick Karlin reports:

I’m told that only senators, staffers and others with Capitol credentials, including the media, are allowed in this morning, and it’s strangely quiet after the non-stop din of chants, songs and shouts that the protestors have been raising for the past week. Observers, I’m told, are allowed upstairs on the gallery level, I haven’t been there yet but will check shortly.

Watch the Senate Dems getting angry, AFTER THE JUMP...

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  1. None of this was necessary. Last November, Greg Ball won his seat by 2,000 votes over a marriage equality supporting Democrat and incumbent Democratic senators and marriage equality supporters Craig Johnson and Antoine Thompson (both voted for marriage equality in 2009) lost their seats in races which were so close they were not called until December. Had progressives turned out last November in numbers rivaling those of Tea Party activists, we'd have those three votes now and this would have been finished long ago. Something to remember the next time some commenter here suggests that the way to advance the interests of our community is by sitting out elections.

    Posted by: Patric | Jun 24, 2011 12:11:51 PM

  2. I predict that this will be a repeat of DADT. The GOP will get the votes they want on their issues, and and then renege and vote against marriage

    Posted by: Jack | Jun 24, 2011 12:14:14 PM

  3. all the more reasons people should be keeping their focus on this, as opposed to wasting energy protesting obama, imho.

    this (what happens in albany) is more important in the short and the long terms.

    don't you think obama will complete his so-called evolution faster if more people favor marriage for gay couples? and don't you think that is more likely to happen if people witness that, no, in fact, more married same-sex couples does not mean the end of civilization and the start of anarchy? let's think people. and let's keep our eyes on the prize.

    Posted by: daftpunkydavid | Jun 24, 2011 12:21:54 PM

  4. Hoping for the best... steeled for the worst.

    Posted by: sleepy bear | Jun 24, 2011 12:33:22 PM

  5. @Jack: If this is a replay of DADT repeal, then we win. We got, with a few votes to spare, the needed Senators to prevent the GOP from filibustering the legislation.

    Posted by: searunner | Jun 24, 2011 12:40:47 PM

  6. Well at least they found the time to declare that a GRAIN (corn) is the state VEGETABLE.

    I can't imagine how New York could have gone another day without taking care of that important piece of legislation.

    Posted by: TampaZeke | Jun 24, 2011 12:46:57 PM

  7. The fact that Skelos continues to refuse to even conference this issue until everything else is done is not a good sign. If they are really hoping to just run out the clock, it's going to take some more heavy lifting from Cuomo and the Dems to try to force them into a vote. It seems like the Senate Dems are finally start to squawk about this, and if there really is trouble brewing, the LGBT orgs better let us know quick.

    And what's up with how evasive everyone is being about this chapter amendment language? I'm surprised the language hasn't even been leaked.

    More emotional see-saw, ain't it fun?

    Posted by: Jollysocks | Jun 24, 2011 12:47:26 PM

  8. @searunner:

    Do we? Isn't that what we thought in September when we failed to repeal DADT? That our compromises and backroom deals had bought us enough votes? Only to have those votes renege at the last second?

    Your confidence is extremely premature.

    Posted by: Jack | Jun 24, 2011 12:50:58 PM

  9. This is what always happens when you vote for Republicans in state government: obstruction, lies, and more lies.

    Posted by: Skye Winspur | Jun 24, 2011 12:53:54 PM

  10. Also one more thing -- the GOP has been conferencing for a while now and about an hour ago kicked out their junior staffers. They are claiming that they are not talking about the marriage vote, but they did something similar to this last week. They met, kicked out the staffers, then I presume, talked about the more religious protections they wanted. So, they could actually be talking about this right now.

    Maybe reading too many tea leaves into things. Maybe the GOP is in there watching a special preview of "Cars 2" or something as equally important

    Posted by: Jollysocks | Jun 24, 2011 12:53:57 PM

  11. @Jack: Yes or no, did the repeal legislation pass the Senate?

    No premature confidence here. I'm just pointing out that the DADT repeal legislation passed, which you failed to acknowledge in your post.

    Posted by: searunner | Jun 24, 2011 1:04:08 PM

  12. The Republicans seem to be dragging the issue in order to exasperate the Gay community, hoping that some of us will end up acting or speaking in a way that will appear unsympathetic. They hope that it will help them re-capture the few “rogue” Republicans who are currently in favor of Marriage Equality. I hope that those new developments are not a sign that their strategy is working…

    Posted by: Anthony | Jun 24, 2011 1:05:15 PM

  13. @Jollysocks: I'm guessing very few other than Saland, Cuomo, Lanza, Hammon, Skelos, and Silver have seen the language.

    Posted by: searunner | Jun 24, 2011 1:08:19 PM

  14. @SEARUNNER :

    I was referring to the instance of the September 2010 vote. Whether the legislation passed several months later is wholly irrelevant to what I was saying. It seems to me that you're just being contrarian, to what end I don't know.

    You want my point in plainer English? I think there is a likelihood of getting D votes on compromise issues, and and then some of the yes votes stab us in the back after getting what they wanted. I hope I'm wrong.

    Posted by: Jack | Jun 24, 2011 1:13:19 PM

  15. @Searunner: But Senator Ball has seen the language, even wrongly said that the language had been made public. How is it that Skelos is saying no one in the conference has seen the language yet Ball has? Did Ball just say that cause he wasn't even included in the negotiation of the chapter amendment language?

    Senator Lanza just emerged from a meeting with Cuomo... could equally be a good or bad sign at this point.

    Posted by: Jollysocks | Jun 24, 2011 1:17:56 PM

  16. As someone who is actually sitting in the Senate Chamber all week, after collecting thousands of signatures to flip key Dem votes, we only have ourselves to blame if this fails. We're too complacent, inactive and unaware of the legislative activity swirling around us.

    And - even better - our small group of 20 or so from NYC actually are working double duty this week. Half are here in Albany, and the rest are working the Obama protest and pride prep, etc in the city.

    Get out from behind your damned keyboards and earn your pride. Join us.

    Posted by: Rich murray | Jun 24, 2011 1:20:40 PM

  17. To all the gays that suggest we vote Republican or just sit out an election to "teach" the Dems a lesson, how's that lesson going?

    Posted by: NY2.0 | Jun 24, 2011 1:23:13 PM

  18. @Jack: DADT repeal was an ugly process, and passing marriage equality in NY is proving to be an ugly process. And if they mirror each other as you suggest, we will see it's passge.

    So no, I'm not just being contrarian. I just don't think your analogy holds as it is relevant that legislation passed in the same session as it was introduced.

    Posted by: searunner | Jun 24, 2011 1:25:23 PM

  19. cut the bull it is past time for the senate to act. the nys senate has always has been an embarrassment . but continues to get worse. these people get paid to do a job why to they continually fail to do it? remember their actions when they are up for reelection. votr them out. skelos is totally an ass for the way he has handled this.

    Posted by: walter | Jun 24, 2011 1:28:10 PM

  20. @Jollysocks: Sen. Ball could be one of the few to have seen the language. At the same time though, I wouldn't be surprised if Ball's claim to having seen the language was as true as his claim to be an 'undecided' until yesterday. I'd take whatever comes out of Ball's mouth with several grains of salt.

    Where has Saland been lately? I'm more interested in his actions.

    Posted by: searunner | Jun 24, 2011 1:30:42 PM

  21. @SEARUNNER :

    You're missing the point. I'm not saying they mirror each other in every way. I said it might mirror DADT in that we get stabbed in the back by supposed "bought" votes. That is all I ever said.

    Posted by: Jack | Jun 24, 2011 1:32:50 PM

  22. @Jack: Yes we might be stabbed in the back, but that is always a possibility on every issue when negotiating in politics.

    Continuing to quibble is pointless as we both want to see marriage passed.

    Posted by: searunner | Jun 24, 2011 1:40:25 PM

  23. NY2.0,
    The strategy is working fine. It's always a step forward and a couple of steps back when it comes to human rights. Marriage equality will sooner than later become law and the Democrats have to be trained that we will not let them take us for granted.

    We need to have a backbone and realize that we might have some temporary set backs and not give into the fear that you seem to be trying to drag us into.

    It's about the big picture not one battle and for that reason we should continue to NOT support the lesser to two evils. We need friends who will not make us an inferior priority. I say continue to deny our support to the spineless pols who give pretty speeches then stab us on the back!

    Posted by: truthteller | Jun 24, 2011 1:42:41 PM

  24. @NY2.0: it went pretty well, I beleive the main reason the DADT repeal passed in the lame duck last year is because the Dems saw we were serious about sitting out the election in the mid terms.

    Posted by: ken | Jun 24, 2011 1:49:25 PM

  25. @Searunner: Silver is now claiming that the chapter amendment language has not been finalized. So, you're right, Ball never saw any language and is just a liar. No only that, he's a dumb liar who can't even lie at the right time.

    Posted by: Jollysocks | Jun 24, 2011 2:00:28 PM

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