NY Archbishop Laments Marriage Equality, Frets Over ‘Theophobia’

Dolan As New York State prepares for gay marriage to begin later this month, New York Archbishop Thomas Dolan has taken to his personal blog to decry equality.

Writes Dolan, "Our state sadly attempted a re-definition of marriage.  Is there anything left to say?"

Apparently there is, because the Archbishop then launches into a seven-point harangue about how the "goliath" of LGBT activists, "glitterati" and media rammed through the landmark legislation.

And, of course, it wouldn't be an anti-equality manifesto without a warning that God-fearing Catholics will be forever ostracized:

We do worry indeed about this freedom of religion.  Editorials already call for the removal of guarantees of religious liberty, with crusaders calling for people of faith to be coerced to acceptance of this redefinition.  If the experience of those few other states and countries where this is already law is any indication, the churches, and believers, will soon be harassed, threatened, and hauled into court for their conviction that marriage is between one man, one woman, forever, bringing children into the world.

Dolan also claims that equality will lead to "nonmonogamy" — "the idea that society is unrealistic to think that one man and one woman should remain faithful in marriage, and that openness to some infidelity should be the norm!" — and frets over what he calls pervasive "theophobia," "a hatred by some of God, faith, religion, and the Church."

Comments

  1. Taylor says

    There is one perfectly good reason for “theophobia”.

    1) The HYPOCRISY of the church on so many other issues. They have absolutely no moral high ground to stand upon.

  2. ralph says

    These perverts have been hiding behind their robes and their mumbo jumbo long enough. It’s time that their scams and crimes against humanity are exposed, and they are kicked out of their tax-free havens.

  3. says

    Well, if Theology would stop being responsible for inciting violence, hatred and vilification of those not in their exclusive clubhouses, hide child molesters and ram their views down on everyone else, people wouldn’t see them as something to be feared. Religion, and Christianity in particular, has a long history of using fear to control people (Fanatical Islam appears to be catching up, true, but Christianity did come first as they like to remind us all), and the fact that it’s finally coming home to roost is, as far as I’m concerned, is a case of reaping what you sow…

  4. Jack M says

    It’s not God or religion that’s the problem, it’s the people who twist spirituality and the Bible to justify their hatred of others.

  5. candideinnc says

    I don’t hate God. (I don’t believe in him, either.) I respect other people’s faith, to the extent it stays out of other people’s business. I DO think organized religion is generally a vice, but don’t per se hate it. The only thing I hate is the Church, which is an evil institution run by evil men like Dolan. I was raised Catholic, so I have an insider’s knowledge of the corruption of the institution.

  6. Abel says

    It’s still amusing that this bloviating prelate calls the LGBT faction “Goliath” while his pitiful little multi-trillion dollar criminal enterprise, as one blogger calls it, is the poor put-upon David. In his blog, Dolan makes an incredible statement: “The Church neither has nor wants political clout.” Can he say that with a straight face, I wonder?

    Then, rather disingenuously, he offers this: “If we did hurt anybody in our defense of marriage, I apologize. We tried our best to insist from the start that our goal was pro-marriage, never anti-gay. But, I’m afraid some within the gay community were offended.”

    The amount of invective we have endured, the slandering, the vile names, the money the Church poured into campaigns to discredit us, disenfranchise us and destroy us – can we ever forgive and forget? The fact is, in his post, he links same sex marriage with no-fault divorce and contraception, which are really independent issues. It is my fervent hope that gay married couples will “do it better,” as Dan Savage predicts.

  7. Jeff M. says

    from wikipedia: A phobia (from the Greek: φόβος, Phóbos, meaning “fear” or “morbid fear”) is a type of anxiety disorder, usually defined as a persistent fear of an object or situation in which the sufferer commits to great lengths in avoiding despite the fear, typically disproportional to the actual danger posed, often being recognized as irrational.

    I think religions have given us more than enough rational reason to fear them. The Catholics more than most. Hardly a phobia, it’s simply good sense.

  8. Rob says

    Theophobia is long overdue. The history of religions is that they have been a “justification” for judgments against those who believe/act differently. This has ranged from missionary proselytyzing to murder and (in the theocrats’ minds) the even more severe eternal damnation of the soul beyond termination of biological life. Homosexuality is just one more difference they want to punish and condemn – don’t forget that not that many centuries back “heretics” were burned at the stake for different beliefs in the trinity/the actual nature of communion wafers etc.

    They do indeed lack high moral ground on which to stand. It is time that theocratic positions were doubted and questioned. How ironic that people only wanting to declare their love for each other might be the source of that theophobia.

  9. yonkersconquers says

    It’s nauseating when a centuries old, impossibly rich and internationally influential fraternal organization like the Catholic Church claim they’re the ones who are being discriminated against.

    Dolan is a righteous asshat. You can see him waving from the further shores of yesterday.

  10. Patric says

    “As New York State prepares for gay marriage to begin later this month . . . .”

    There is no such thing as gay marriage. The term is as meaningful as “blonde marriage” or “short marriage” or “half Irish marriage”. The term gay marriage (often used with added scare quotes) is a term preferred by haters to imply that our marriages are not real and are counterfeit. While I recognize that the term is widely used, it is disappointing to see a gay blog use the terminology preferred by those who would seek to deny our marriages the legitimacy to which they are entitled.

    There is only one civil institution of marriage and it is an institution to which certain members of society have until now been denied access. What we are preparing for in New York is the arrival of marriage equality and we should speak about it as such. (As a bonus, “marriage equality” also advances our argument politically much more effectively by focusing people on the issue of equality – a winner – and not on something as possibly unfamiliar – and, especially when used with quotes, scary! – as “gay marriage”.

  11. Robert says

    His latest rant is fear of polygamy once marriages begin in our state. He can’t even produce factual evidence for it in any of the ten countries and American states where it’s legal.

    The roman cult is morally bankrupt and has NO authority to pass judgment on civil matters given its track record on pedophilia and misogyny for the past two millenia.

  12. SONNIE says

    I think we should call it “Legal Union” rather than using the word marriage. It’s the word “Marriage” that scares the hell out of the bigots and haters. The end result is the same, but we do not need to call it “Marriage.”

  13. Mike says

    Which tradition of marriage does he want to revert to? Does he wish to roll back to women being chattels of their husbands who could be sold at the market as was the case in Europe only a few centuries ago?

  14. John says

    If Mr. Dolan wants to get involved in the politics of the state he should have to give up his tax exempt status. It would be a great help for the city budget but there will be less money for the clergy to buy pretty dresses, flamboyant jewelry, and a mercedes to ride his fat ass around.

  15. walter says

    this man has accomplished nothing by spread hate interfere in the lives of people who are not members of his church. he wonders why people hate the church? myob, each year more and more people walk away from the church. , that should worry him more.

  16. Bart says

    You reap what you sow. If there’s hatred towards “the Church” (excuse me, when did the Catholic Church assume the moniker of “The Church” — there are lots of churches and more every day are accepting that gay men and women are Children of God too…it’s only the creepy, guys-who-never-marry, abuse children and hide it, Catholic Church and a few others regressive denomination who don’t…) it’s been an expressed outrage that they have brought on themselves because of their own internalize hatred and fear. Sorry, no sympathy here, Dolan. You set up the dominoes, don’t whine now that they are falling.

  17. says

    “I think we should call it “Legal Union” rather than using the word marriage. It’s the word “Marriage” that scares the hell out of the bigots and haters.”

    No, it isn’t. They are no more in favor of “legal unions” (which is, in fact, what civil marriages are). They have a problem with gay people having any civil rights, not just the right to marry. And our having the right to marry does not infringe on any religious right, so they are lying to say it does. What they are ultimately afraid of is that society will see the Church for the hateful and perverted institution that it is and will increasingly abandon them.

  18. uffda says

    Patric@thanks for your insistence on the term “mariage equality”, it is sound and I shall use it exclusively.

    As for Dolan. I’m sorry but your moral high ground is ever more insubstantial given the untenable dogma and bad behavior of the Catholic church. The panic on your face merely means that it’s time to reconsider beliefs that are fundamentally unsound and increasingly unworkable. You still have choices, but sexual orientation will not be one of them.

  19. Bryan says

    How dare he! How dare he stand in judgement of this secular law that offers equality to so many who have been marginalized for so long. This does not impact him in any way. He will not be forced to perform marriage ceremonies between two men or two women. This does not take away from the strength of anyone’s marriage. They twist and manipulate God’s words to serve their own bigoted antiquated views. And, they do this all standing on a mountain of lies and deceit. The church has no moral authority. They forfeited any that they may have had when they (the bishops) sold out children to protect their own. Those who talk about excommunicating politicians for their votes need to take a look at their own church leaders. Ask themselves, how did they vote when it came time to protect children. They talk about the harm that this law will have on children, what about the harm the church has already inflicted upon children. Where was their outrage then? Where was their call for excommunication? These hypocrates stand in righteous indignation of two consenting adults who want to commit to each other in love to share their lives together, yet these are the same people who turned their backs on the institutionalized evil that was forced upon the church’s most vulnerable. Tell me about the difficulty of explaining to a child why two men or two women love each other and want to be married and we’ll see how that compares to explaining to a child why the man he and his family trusted and looked to as a representative of God, felt it was his right to use that child and treat him like so much garbage; AND WHY the Church, to which his entire family has been so devoted, thought that what happened to him was so meaningless and inconsequential that they sent that man out to “minister” to more and more children. Let us see which explanation is more challenging to deliver…shall we.

  20. TonyJ says

    What is really ironic is that he complains about the possibility of polygamy, when the Catholic Church partnered with the MORMONS in California to prevent gay marriage….!

    Now that is hilarious….

  21. Blake says

    The comment I left on his blog seems to have dispappeared, leaving only the “thank you for your eloquence”. Funny that. Now who’s phobic…

  22. anon says

    Actually, he should know his Greek better. The word he’s trying to coin would probably be something like misodoxasia.

    You really get a sense of how doctrine can’t work on a daily basis when you look into how it deals with non-believers. What is his position on Jewish marriage? Or Mormons? What about married Anglican priests? He can’t open his mouth on these issues without causing a major political crisis for the church, but on gay issues he can rant away.

  23. Pete says

    Did you catch the part where he compares himself to God? Well, I think God likes his Catholic priests with a little less Superbia and a little more Humilitas.

  24. Bryan says

    Once again, religious extremists attempt to define any interference with their attempts to force the precepts of their faith on others as a violation of freedom of worship.

    Freedom of worship does not give you the right to force your religion on others by interfering with legislation.

  25. ophu says

    I know what I believe. Apparently, it’s not the same thing that he believes. OMG, I am such a theophobe for not believing what he believes! 😐

  26. littlebadwolf says

    ‘harrassed and threatened’? the bish certainly knows a lot about that, 2000 years worth, but now he’s terrified he will wind up on the receiving end….tant pis.

  27. Curtis says

    Remember this BIGOTS church has been guilty during its entire history of murder, rape, torture, plunder, supression of knowledge ect. in the name of God treat these slimes like the monsters they are.

  28. says

    I am Gay. I do not understand: why do we need marriage to me and my boyfriend? We love each other, live together for many years. I’m not against marriage for men, I do not understand them.

  29. SFRowGuy says

    Gays responsible for Theophobia and nonmonogomy? Mr Dolan, I’m afraid the catholic clergy is more responsible for the first, and statistically homosexual relationships last far longer then heterosexual ones.

  30. the lone gunmen says

    What a nasty group of posters on this site. You cannot even accept that over 80% of the sexual abuse cases involving the Church were committed by homosexuals.

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