Jurors Say Brandon McInerney Deserves Leniency Because Larry King was the Bully

More jurors from the Brandon McInerney trial are speaking out with one saying McInerney got "a raw deal".

Kingmcinerney The L.A. Times adds:

One juror, identified only as Lisa S. because she did not want her whole name used, said many jurors came to believe that King was bullying McInerney by making unwanted sexual advances.

"This wasn't about him being gay,'' she said. "This was about bullying. There was a ton of evidence that Larry was acting inappropriately with other kids at school, and they didn't do anything to stop him."

As for the new case, she added: "It was overcharged and an abuse of power, and I don't think a new jury will see it any different."

I'd say getting shot in the head point-blank and killed by your classmate is a "raw deal" but that's just mho.

Comments

  1. atomic says

    So, if I shoot Lisa S. point blank in the head because I felt like she “bullied” me, I deserve leniency too, right? After all, I have a right not to be exposed to her unwanted and thinly-veiled bigotry, so that should give me the free and clear to put a bullet through her skull, according to her warped reasoning.

    WHO IS THE VICTIM? The doe-eyed pretty boy who is still ALIVE, or the misfit whom he MURDERED in cold blood?

  2. Xavi says

    WTF is wrong with these people? Larry a “bully”?!! “Unwanted sexual advances”?!

    The boy was shot at point-blank range at back of his head, not once, but twice! What “mitigating circumstances” could there possibly be?

    Larry was using whatever limited tools where at his disposal to deflect the hatred and homophobia he felt from others. He was not attacking Brandon.

    There was clear bias by these clueless jury members against Larry. Let’s hope the prosecution does its job next time.

  3. BEAHBEAH says

    Take note gay teenagers, if you’re bullied at high school, you have unlimited license to shoot your bully. Oh wait….

    What kind of screwed up logic is this? Even if Larry was making unwanted sexual advances, obviously thats inappropriate, but it doesn’t merit a bullet to the brain. There is no jusitification whatsover, disgusting reasoning.

    Larry was obviously just young and reckless and didn’t realize he was playing with fire. But Brandon is still a murderer no matter how you paint that picture.

  4. TampaZeke says

    The very day that the first bullied gay kid shoots and kills his bully we will see just how valid this argument is. He will be roundly condemned by EVERYONE, will be tried as an adult and after one hour of deliberation will be found GUILTY on all charges and sentenced to death.

    This has got homophobia written all over it.

    Let’s face it, the Gay Panic Defense is as effective in 2011 as it ever was.

  5. Joey says

    Now I understand why they dropped the hate crime charge. The jurors are so homophobic in that area that they reverse it and see the killer as the victim. The killer first bullied Larry and then Larry fought back the best way he knew how. But the poor killer couldn’t handle so he shot him. Poor killer. Jurors vote their prejudices whether it is convicting an innocent black teen on flimsy evidence or feeling sorry for a white teen who shot a gay kid in the head.

  6. Jerry says

    The pattern is that when a LGBT person is a victim of Hate, they always appear to go on trial along with the assailant. There is always a veil sense created that we always bring it on by our behavior. A premise that appears to be lodged in the Heterosexual’s Mind set. When we reported our stalker, the Policeman kept insisting that “you must be doing something to provoke him”. My answer was “we are breathing”.

  7. Rin says

    I think this juror is an idiot. There is no reason on earth that can justify one human being killing another…except maybe pedophiles. I would kill someone who harmed my child…and be happy to go to jail for it.

    You don’t get to kill someone because they tease you. You don’t even get to kill someone if they shove you. She’s ridiculous. Just ridiculous.

    After reading the transcripts, I have a weird feeling about the case. It was too “personal” what went on with Lawrence and Brandon. I have this weird, weird feeling that maybe Brandon is gay and MAYBE something happened….I don’t know tho. I don’t know of ANY gay kids who would target a single bully like Lawrence did according to the transcripts and approach him in this way UNLESS he was making a point to him. It just seems completely out of character.

    It could very well be that Brandon didn’t want anyone finding something out about himself and killed Lawrence to keep it quiet.

    There is a whole lotta wrong about this case. Like why the school pushed Lawrence in a particular direction or why they never got involved….something’s fishy.

  8. kit says

    This is why words matter. The right-wing, mostly xtian reasoning that we hear so frequently these days has permeated even our court system. It goes like this: “I attacked you because of my beliefs that you are wrong and a lesser human being and deserving of abuse. You didn’t just take it quietly, but responded to it by defending yourself. So that makes ME the victim and I am now justified in doing whatever I want to you — including shooting you in the back of the head.” This logic now permeates our society, put forward by a whole host of right-wingers and supposed christians. And jurors are drawn from the members of society. Sickening.

  9. Xavi says

    @Rin, I do agree with your assessment. While there was substantial evidence presented in the case that Brandon was exposed to violence and abuse at home, I suspect something “personal” here as well.

    Larry was clearly a threat to Brandon. Perhaps Larry was perceived as a threat to his masculinity, his social “status” in the school, whatever. Brandon believed he needed to kill Larry in a very public manner to “prove” his superiority.

    There is no evidence to support leniency in this case. Brandon is a murderer, he murdered a defenseless boy in cold blood at point-blank range. Homophobia and “gay panic” clearly influenced these clueless jurors.

    Larry should spend the next four decades in a CA prison. Perhaps that will give him enough time to understand the pain he has caused to a family, the life he destroyed, and the horror he unleashed on his community.

  10. sjorgl says

    I have served on a jury twice – and I have to say my faith in humanity diminished in each case. People are just ignorant – and willfully so.
    Lisa S. doesn’t even dare to use her real name to say these ignorant things. She’s a coward.

  11. john patrick says

    This is absolutely bizarre. Brian McInerney took a gun to school and shot Larry King dead, and he was the one being bullied? This is the kind of garbage the right wing homophobic religious bigots spew all the time.

  12. says

    Lets see if I’ve gotten this right. McInerney shoots King in the back of the head point blank, and he’s the one deserving of the jury’s sympathy?

    Heck of a job his lawyer did for him in getting the jury to sympathize with his client instead of the victim, or is it possible these jurors came into the trial already predisposed.

    After all, we all know that “fag” got what he deserved. NOT!

  13. Easyroad says

    Ok, this is serious. If there’s a “Save Brandon” movement, there NEEDS to be a “Justice for King” movement. We cannot just fold our arms and stand still.

    A boy was killed. In cold blood. It was premeditated. These are all FACTS. We must not allow facts to be distorted and victims to take the blame.

  14. Francis says

    This comes as no surprise. First of all, Ventura county is long known as a country traditionally made up of majority conservatives. That’s a reality that makes it pretty simple to see why a majority of judges would buy the gay panic defense. It speaks to the demographics of the country itself and what conservatives in general overall believe when it comes to this subject. The dissenting judges clearly DO believe that “unwanted homosexually-oriented sexual advances” warrants a bullet to the head.

    Jerry and Kit have it exactly right. People such as these judges, right-wing fundies, and really all homophobes, believe that they are victims. They believe our homosexuality is the issue, not the negativity surrounding it, not the abuse we take because of it. It is always our fault, because we’re gay. We’re always the ones to blame. If we weren’t gay then these things wouldn’t happen to us.

    This is the way these people think and this is what we’re up against. This is what real resentment looks like. People who justify any sort of grievance against LGBT citizens without ANY sort of shame.

  15. jw says

    You can hope the prosecutors are paying close attention
    Don’t they have people trained in helping pick the jury?
    Clearly this one came into this with her homo-hatred
    Why was she allowed on the jury to begin with?
    If this were a black white thing they’d be looking for folks who had as much inbred racism as she has homophobia
    I have yet to hear of one juror who wanted to convict him
    The prosecutors seem to have a strong case here
    How is it that they have so many jurors who want this kid to walk?
    Is his public lawyer that good?
    Is it just homo hatred and a good looking young white boy against a brown skin cross dressing predator fag?
    Racism is at play as well as homo hatred
    Next time someone tells you how good things are and how far we’ve come remember that queer lives are cheap and a kid can blow a queer kid’s head off and Lisa here thinks the killer is justified

  16. Francis says

    You’re 100% right Easyroad. This is the time for people to now be very loud about what’s occuring here. This is an injustice disgusting beyond words, and it’s time to highlight exactly what homophobes stand for as a group, and the facts of why Larry King is dead today. We can not allow Larry’s death be in vain. His death and excuses made for it are a prime example of what LGBT students are facing daily in school.

    Unfortunately, in the eyes of many, who have a gay vs. straight mentality, there is no ability of reasoning with them.

  17. enough already says

    Absolutely correct.
    What sort of country would this be if a murderer were convicted for killing a dark-skinned gay person?
    I mean, really.
    Start down that road and, next thing you know, we will have justice for all, not just for cis-gendered light skinned heterosexual men.

    We owe this little lady a vote of thanks for defending the Christians values which make this country what it is.

    (this being the internet, I guess I’d better add that was sarcasm.)

  18. Caliban says

    Based on what I’ve read, Lawrence King had been bullied by Brandon and his pals for a long time and eventually he fought back by responding to their taunts with “flirting.” Instead of running away and crying he turned the tables on them the only way he knew how.

    He broke the unwritten rule that victims are just supposed to take it and he fought back by taunting them about their own sexuality by “coming on to” them in a satiric manner. Does anyone REALLY think he was trying to seduce his bullies? No, he was just using the only weapon he had.

    And Brandon McInerney killed him for it.

    And now, because he used flirtation and suggestive language they’re going to paint HIM as the sexually aggressive bully chasing those poor, innocent little angels around?! In essence he’s being bullied again in the courtroom, portrayed as the sick little queer once again, and frigging idiots like Lisa S are gonna buy it because it fits into their homophobic worldview. It’s disgusting.

  19. Rin says

    I’m not Perry Mason or anything, but…

    Did anyone else read the transcripts way back when they had them online?

    Brandon and Lawrence had A LOT in common. Both of them were documented as abused children. Brandon had even gone so far as to mention prior to school officials that he had been sexually abused by a male member of his family. His father quite often beat him…why?

    Why did the oldest boy go into the military?

    Why was the father so hard on Brandon?

    Why out of ALL the bullies would Lawrence King target the one whose situation was similar to taunt and gain revenge on?

    What if they knew each other outside of school?

    What if Brandon is gay and his father is a homophobe?

    What if Brandon didn’t want other students knowing/believing he was gay?

    Not that this changes anything because murder is murder is murder…even if it was a lover’s quarrel it’s still murder, but…something is NOT right here.

    Why did the school official give Lawrence a dress and the idea to put it on?

    Why didn’t they look at Brandon’s history and statements and see a volcano waiting to erupt?

    I think someone knows something that they are not telling.

    Regardless of the reason, it’s still murder… but I’d like some closure on what was really going on because that could help schools figure out what to do in similar situations.

    I just have a feeling they “knew” each other and this was more than is being presented.

  20. SFShawn says

    Harry Britt was quoted after the Dan White “Twinkie Defense” verdict that if Dan White had just murdered Mayor Moscone he would be sent to prison for life for life but because he also murdered a gay man(Harvey Milk)he had somehow(?)done society a favor”??????
    Dan White was charged with manslaughter,served 5 years without any psychiatric evaluation and released from prison to walk the street. Fortunately the murderer committed suicide and took his own life but it just reinforces how incredibly flawed our ‘jurdicial system” really is.

  21. Hollywood, CA says

    Maybe Brandon’s father was molesting him, or had been molesting him for years, and Brandon was using King as a conduit for his anger/humiliation/fear against his father. Too afraid to face his molesting father he took out all his pain on King. Something he had wanted to do to his father, but couldn’t. And now, under the spotlight, he doesn’t want to admit he’d been raped by his father. His brother may have been in the same situation, causing him to escape into the military, and then come back and defend his brother who he knew was going through the same abuse he had gone through.

    This is all a guess, but it seems like the logical answer. It’s hard to believe that because of some “defensive” flirting by a kid, you would bring a gun to school and execute him in a classroom full of other children… right? I hope the truth surfaces some day.

  22. Rowan says

    Hmmm…..

    Gay people or the left never frigging learn. You guys are sitting here complaining on your laptops but I bet youre all the first to say you won’t vote for Obama.

    And really, could the “gay community” not had paid for a good lawyer? Still? Are we that inept at strategy that more gay kids have to die? Seriously?

    But hey, isn’t Ann Coulter great? Better still, didn’t Towleroad give a glowing interview for GOproud who are campaigning with every dime they have to make the government right wing again?

    Talk about bing hypocrites. At least JMG is consistent and you know he cares when he talks about stuff happening in the gay community.

  23. antb says

    This juror – and all the other jurors on the case, since one holdout would have hung the jury – are complicit in the murder of Larry King. I hope she spends many many sleepless nights wondering if her idea of god will punish her for this failure. Sure hope she doesn’t have kids, and one of them isn’t senselessly murdered, in light of the fact that she approves and condones such murder.

  24. anon says

    The killer got off because the young prosecutor running this case thought like the people on this blog. If you want a conviction, you need to work with the jury and not against them. They hold all the power. Remember OJ Simpson’s trial? That’s what you get. You can rant and rave all you want, but at the end of the day you don’t get a vote.

  25. Rin says

    @Hollywood,

    that’s what I’m saying. Kids generally don’t go and “shoot” the gay kids for taunting them. That’s extreme and “weak” for the stereotypical homophobic teen. Lawrence would have normally gotten a knuckle sandwich or swirlie in the toilet.

    I have this feeling that maybe they were both gay and Lawrence was a “threat” to others knowing that Brandon was…or maybe you’re right and he put all of his anger he had for his father on Lawrence.

    Both kids were abused and I could see that if they were both gay somehow they would have ended up maybe talking or bonding…or whatever and then the panic of people finding out might have been too much for Brandon with his father being so abusive and the rage went right to Lawrence.

    This entire case is strange. From the actions of the school officials to Lawrence’s estranged parents who abandoned him showing back up, to the brother’s comments.

    Well, whatever Brandon could have become had things gone down differently no longer matters. They did not. He is a killer with a dead heart.

    This is why parents who have crazy kids should do time with them. They are the Dr. Frankensteins who created the monster. If more parents had to do jail time with their children they would probably parent a helluva lot better.

  26. jamal49 says

    Justice was not blind here. It was filtered through the clear lens of unadulterated, homophobia. In this case, the perpetrator of the crime is the “victim” and the real victim is the “perpetrator”. The defense counsel sure knew how to pick the jurors. Those jurors have obviously not judged the case based on the evidence. They judged it based on their own petty, ignorant biases. Sad. And another wake-up call for LGBT Americans to the continuing prevalence of anti-LGBT bigotry in America. Again, very sad.

  27. Mk_Ultra_Again says

    I don’t know about religion or karma, but I hope the serious injustice that these despicable, heartless monsters on the jury have committed against Larry King comes back at them tenfold. What an atrocity!

  28. chuck says

    I once served on a Jury and the majority verdict came in for the Lawyer who had a European accent! The rest of the jury felt that a European lawyer had to be smarter than an American one. At the time…I was disgusted by their comments. But now I see that it was true, Europeans ARE smarter than Americans!

  29. albertam says

    have him tried as an adult, as the old saying goes he did the crime he should do the time. no excuses for killing someone cause you don’t like them for being gay or for teasing remarks. how sad can these jurors be so one side track and arrogant. this kid plan this Retaliation by picking up the gun and shooting someone dead for being teased. for being teased and bang the kid is dead now its not a hate crime. hello did IQs drop below human standards in the jury section or weren’t they listening.

  30. says

    A kid gets shot in the head twice in the middle of a classroom full of witnesses and the murdering bastard who killed him is going to get off. This makes me so sad. We, as a society, should look at this case and be ashamed.

  31. Nena Vidal says

    Letting this boy off easy would send the wrong message across this country. The true reason they want to let this boy off so lenient is because he is White and the vicitm was Gay or even possibly Trans and a person of color. Talk about character assasination. They’re re-victimizing Larry King all over again. Truly sad in deed. :(

  32. Dunn says

    The killer should have been charged as a juvenile. Charging a 14 year old as an adult makes no sense. Doing so is about adult anger and vengeance not justice. A 14 year old does not have the mental capacity to make adult decisions. A 14 year old’s brain is different from an adults and lacks the wiring to make truly rational decisions.

    The killer is a killer. He deserves punishment and rehabilitation. If at the end of his sentence, the court could impose civil commitment to a mental institution if he is deemed a danger to the community.

    That said, had the killer been a biracial kid who murdered a white kid, he would have been convicted. Race played a role in the jury’s decision. This is America. Brown, half-black/half-white Larry King’s life as a queer youth meant less to the jury.

  33. Chats Worth says

    I’m with Ryan (two posts back) on this one. Allowing the killer to walk tells every student in every school that killing someone they don’t like isn’t criminally actionable.

    Any person who takes another person’s life, with the pre-meditated intentions of doing so, is a murderer. If you take the gayness, the blackness or the whiteness out of the equation, you still have a planned murder.

    If you take the alleged childhood abuse, the school district, the teacher, the principal and anyone else that Brandon came into contact with since the day he took his first breath out of the picture, you still have a planned murder.

    I just love the childhood abuse defenses that are raised when a youngster gets charged with a capital crime. It makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside to know that our justice system will feel sorry for the murderer and give him another chance. After all, according to the jury, he made a mistake and we should all give him the opportunity to make amends. After all, the civil case has been settled, so Larry’s parents now have money and all of this should now silently go away.

    I don’t care if Larry was gay. I don’t care if Brandon was a homophobe. I don’t care about anything except for the undisputed fact that in a place where all students are supposed to be safe, a murderer somehow got a gun, brought it to a school campus undetected, and then murdered another student.

    Shame to the defense counsel, who tried to make it look as though McInerney was the victim. I personally have been a victim of many unjust and unfair things in my lifetime, but I have never even fantasized about killing someone for it. Maybe that is my failure in life. Maybe I should have whacked anyone who crossed me in my younger years, knowing full well that the justice system would give me my own second chance to “make amends.”

    My work as a paralegal brings me to the Chatsworth Courthouse regularly. As this trial progressed, there were many instances of seeing people congregate in groups on the courthouse steps and in the parking lot, talking about the case. Not once did I ever hear anyone say that McInerney was a victim or that Larry King deserved what he got.

    Yet, some shameless defense lawyer found a way to turn the entire case around 180 degrees and point the finger of blame squarely on Larry King. He was able to successfully assert his position because we are no longer a society that is held accountable. Everyone around us is responsible for the way we act and what we do. Our parents and bad parenting are to blame for each and every wrongdoing we commit as adults. “He had a bad childhood, so therefore, let’s let him off the hook this time and see if he can straighten his life out.”

    This post isn’t intended to seek an eye for an eye. It is to give an accurate portrayal of what happens when everyone else is to blame for McInerney’s wrongdoing.

    Shame to defense counsel and shame to the jury. May all of YOUR children go to a safe place to study, and may you NEVER have to worry for their safety when they go to THEIR school. May you NEVER experience the horror of losing one of your OWN children because a classmate had bad parenting or uses some other flimsy excuse for whacking YOUR kid to death in a classroom.

    But if you ever did, and if your OWN child’s murderer got off, you would be the first ones to yell and scream that the justice system is unfair and biased.

    To the jury members who got their 15 Minutes of Fame on 20/20 last night: Congratulations. Larry King is still dead and Brandon McInerney is still a murderer.

  34. funinsnow says

    Lawrence King was anti-social. Among the things Lawrence King did was harass other boys in the bathroom & masturbate in front of others.

    The defense should ask the judge to dismiss 1st Degree charge & have the jury decide between 2nd Degree or Manslaughter. With random violence-those cases are odd & strange that they make it in the news. Even with crimes perpetrated against ethnic groups. The vast majority of crimes against Blacks are committed by other Blacks just as the vast majority of crimes against Whites are committed by other Whites which gets some news coverage. But random violence such as the Jame Byrd killing by White supremacists are the 1s which get major news coverage because it’s strange & odd. The news about things which are odd & strange.Most rape & sex abuse trials won’t be reported in the press unless the rape victim is killed or if a famous man is accused of rape. There are so many rape cases-mostly he says she says cases (esp. marital & acquaintance rape cases) where the woman says the man forced her while the man says that he did the acts she agreed to while not doing what she said no to with a jury deciding which story is believable-that isn’t interesting for news.

    The same with gay bashings. You know 2 months ago, I wrote about a case I knew where a man bashed a gay with 2 friends after the gay (who was much bigger than the man) grabbed the man’s butt against will after which the man told his 2 friends what the gay did & they grabbed him after which the man bashed him. Yes, that was probably excessive force but again, the man overreacted to a crime the gay did which is assault&battery. Box Turtle Bulletin, etc. would condemn the man for ‘gay bashing’ yet they have no problem with the crime the gay did to cause the violent reaction. But these cases probably won’t be in the press unless the victim is killed & if a defense lawyer were to bring up the criminal abuse the gay did to cause the reaction, gay groups would decry it as ‘gay panic’ when I call it gay abused me reaction. If a man grabbed a woman’s butt or boobs against will after which the woman or the woman’s husband or boyfriend bashed or killed the man, then yes, the reaction is probably excessive. But many would say that the man committed a crime (assault&battery) which caused the violent reaction & they wouldn’t sympathise with the man nor would they do vigils. There are more men who have been bashed or killed after they grabbed a woman’s butt or boobs against will. There have even been cases where innocent men have been killed after a woman told a friend that the man raped her & the friend bashed or killed the man, only that the man was innocent. Yet when a gay is killed after he harassed or abused a man by grabbing his butt or groin against will after which man reacts violently, then the vigils are held for the gay & it sometimes gets nationwide coverage, sometimes with comments by the President. Judy Shepard (Matthew Wayne Shepard’s mom) has commented on Lawrence King & while I don’t know what is in her mind, Judy Shepard doesn’t seem to care about Lawrence King’s anti-social conduct which caused him to be killed but just goes on about ‘hate crimes’ against gays. Yes, with self-defend, you may only use just force & juries will decide in murder cases if it’s 1st, 2nd or Manslaughter. But if a gay is going to adopt anti-social conduct after which he is bashed or killed, then to repeat, while it maybe excessive force, I don’t sympathise with the gay & he isn’t worthy of being given vigils.

  35. funinsnow says

    Lawrence King Cobra is what he should be called. Matthew or Methew Wayne Shepard is another 1. Honestly, you homos are evil to make excuses for Lawrence King masturbating in front of others & proposing to others in the bathroom. I don’t want gays committing sexual harassment & assault&battery. Ok, getting shot & killed is excessive but it’s an overreaction to abuse that Lawrence King had no right to do. It’s predictable that Towlerroad makes excuses for Lawrence King’s anti-social conduct.

  36. Rin says

    @FUNINSNOW

    Is /b/ getting too boring for you and you really just need to troll?

    If Lawrence “touched” Brandon and Brandon stood up and punched him…there wouldn’t be a vigil. Had Brandon reported him for sexual assault…no vigil.

    Killing someone is beyond excessive for any reason–other than the harming of children. If someone hurt my kids I’d willingly go to jail for shooting them.

    As a female who has been sexually assaulted in a most violent way–more than Lawrence did to Brandon…I cannot justify Brandon killing him or even doing anything more than maybe a sock on the nose.

    Whatever happened to a good old sock on the nose? Why is everyone so hell bent on the permanent destruction of another soul OR the litigation through the courts?

    That said…I also don’t think children should be tried as adults so I’m torn. If he were tried for murder in the 1st in a juvie court as a juvenile I would be fine with it.

    BTW as for your “homos” comment…piss off troll.

  37. funinsnow says

    Rin, it’s possible you made up the story about being sexually abused. If you’re menopausal, then you’re too old for most men to want to do it with you.

    Yes, what happened to Lawrence King (cobra) was excessive force, but what they should’ve done was try to cure his homosexuality. You want to put blame on Lawrence King’s death, blame Lawrence King’s anti-social conduct which the lesbian Vice Principal didn’t punish when complaints were made about him exposing himself & masturbating in front of others.

    I’m not a Judeo-Christian & I see something wrong with homo&lesbian activities-sex changes are worse. Homo&lesbian activities are caused either by sex abuse in childhood or due to a birth defect if it’s inborn. Homosexuality & GID goes against the idea of eugenics. I don’t want gays committing sex abuse & if a gay gets bashed or killed after the homo has grabbed another man’s butt or groin against will, yes it’s probably excessive, but the homo got an overreaction to abuse. You need to stop making excuses for sex abuse when it’s homo. Sure straight sex abuse is bad, but homosexuality whether it’s consent or forced are bad in & of themselves.

  38. funinsnow says

    BTW Rin, the fact is that complaints were made about Lawrence King (Cobras) masturbating (touching himself) in front of others & Lawrence King cobra doing Larry Craig type abuse in the bathroom. Several students complained to teacher Jill Ekman about Lawrence King harassing them in the bathroom. When teacher Jill Ekman talked to Lawrence King about this abuse, Lawrence King laughed & said he liked to make the boys squirm because he knew that the lesbian Vice Principal Joy Epstein would override the teacher.

    Lawrence King may still be alive today had he been suspended or expelled from school when students complained about Lawrence King’s anti-social conduct. Of course people who take part in gay & lesbian sexual activities are anti-social. American Indians tend to have higher anti-social rates but Injuns are another topic. Homosexuality is caused by birth defect if it is inborn or the result of sex abuse.

  39. dkjester says

    If a girl is continuously harassed, no one in a school does anything to help or stop it. Eventually she has enough, and goes off the deep end. Would this be the same case? It should be. If you look at it any differently then you have SOME type of bias towards gays vs straights. If you are completely unbiased then you judge all cases as if they are all genderless. That is what most posters seem to forget.

    Remember that kid that continuously got bullied then finally body slammed the kid in defense? Everyone rooted for him?

    Lets not have two standards. The kid murdered someone. Hence the plea for second degree murder, which is a murder of passion. It is horrible when a child dies, and another is in jail no matter the orientation. However, if one kid continues to harass someone and expects nothing to happen they are naive. Now they should never get shot, but doesnt mean their hands are completely clean.

    Harassment is harassment, murder is murder.

  40. dkjester says

    to add to it, there are kids out there that murder their parents, their friends, outside of school for money for just as bad reasons. They get tried as juveniles. If you watch investigation discover at all you see people get away with murder as a child and are back on the street with a clean identity, protected, after only a few years in Juvy. This boy didnt get that same treatment…. The reason why ?

    Let me ask you all to ask yourselves why to kids that kill their parents in cold blood, in gruesome ways, get out at 18 and this boy doesnt?

    It is because he was gay that the DA was pressured to try him again and eventually offer him a plea deal which hurt him more then hundreds of other kids who are protected under the “juvy” umbrella of safety. Is that truely how America is equal? If you truely answer yes… then it isnt the jurors who need to soul search but you

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