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Proposed Bill Would Permit Christian Students to Bully Gays in Tennessee: VIDEO

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A proposed change in Tennessee law would protect students who bully gay students if they do it for religious reasons, WSMV reports:

They're considering making a change in the law to allow students to speak out against homosexuality, if that's what their religious beliefs call for. Supporters have said this is about protecting the free-speech rights of students who want to express their views on homosexuality. But gay rights groups are calling the idea a "license to bully."...

The bill is a top priority for the conservative Family Action Council, which on its website says its intent is to clarify that unpopular beliefs don't constitute bullying. Gay rights groups say it's a fine line between protecting academic discourse and protective hate.

"What if one student calls another one a sinner, or a sodomite or says you're perverted or you're unnatural or you are going to hell. That's where it gets really dicey," Sanders said.

Students like Fussman say Middle Tennessee has already seen one gay teen commit suicide after he was reportedly bullied at school, and she worries that number could grow if this bill passes.

Watch WSMV's report, AFTER THE JUMP...

Here's more on the so-called "License to Bully" bill at Nashville Scene.

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  1. Excellent! It's about time it was codified. Now gay kids can bully Christian kids for religious reasons.

    Posted by: ted | Jan 4, 2012 11:53:04 AM


  2. Good lord! Michigan Republicans just tried to pull the same crap and got their ass handed to them by the public and some decent Democrat politicians and had to back down.

    There was a huge national firestorm over Michigan Republicans trying to pass a similar bill. Apparently Tennessee doesn't keep up with national news much!

    Posted by: Paul | Jan 4, 2012 11:56:42 AM


  3. @TED
    EXACLTY

    Turnabout is fair play. I remember in the 90's some groups were offering seminars in "Biblical Self Defense," e.g., "judge not lest ye be judged" etc.

    Posted by: QJ201 | Jan 4, 2012 11:58:43 AM


  4. @ TED and @ QJ201 have the right idea...throw it right back at them.

    Another response might be: "My god reserves Hell for Haters like you".

    Free speech must be protected...but do we REALLY need a law? Religious students should be able to discuss their religious view, when appropriate.

    But they also need to learn that just because you have the right to say almost anything does NOT mean you should.

    And context is critical...similar speech which is appropriate in a certain context and setting may not be appropriate in a different context or setting.

    There's a difference between saying "My religion teaches (or I believe) sodomites are going to Hell" during a classroom discussion...versus ridiculing a classmate with "You're a dirty sinner and you're going to Hell."

    With Liberty (to exercise free speech in this case) comes Responsibility (to exercise it appropriately)...and to face consequences if you're inappropriate.

    We don't need a law...we already protect free speech.

    Posted by: Chris | Jan 4, 2012 12:10:23 PM


  5. I, for one, welcome this bill and all of its consequences. I will personally be looking forward to flying down to TN to tell people that they sin on a daily basis. (Do I really need to add biblical quotes to this? Don't we all know the ridiculousness of the bible by now?)

    Posted by: kieran | Jan 4, 2012 12:20:11 PM


  6. Maybe some of the gay Tennessee students should start calling out some of the teachers and other faculty if they have had a divorce. How do you think that would go over? Or for eating pork, or having a child out of wedlock. Maybe once all that good straight "T" is spilled, they'll think twice about this...

    Posted by: Hollywood, CA | Jan 4, 2012 12:39:28 PM


  7. Sadly, they will be protected from 'bullying' because you can't discriminate against someone because of their religion..

    Posted by: Derek | Jan 4, 2012 12:39:49 PM


  8. As soon as the Mormon/Muslim/whatever students start responding in kind to the 'Christians', you can bet they'll race to carve out some sort of exemption for Christian-only bullying.

    Posted by: Ozymandias71 | Jan 4, 2012 12:42:47 PM


  9. If the cheerleaders outfits are a poly/cotton blend then those hussies should be stoned to death!

    That mystery meat in the cafeteria might include pork (probably not shellfish on a school district's budget) so the lunch ladies must die!

    Gee, this is fun! Let's see, what else...?

    Posted by: Anastasia Beaverhausen | Jan 4, 2012 12:54:45 PM


  10. "...to clarify that unpopular beliefs don't constitute bullying."

    They do realize that the vast majority of Americans consider themselves "christian" right? Who's "unpopular beliefs" are they talking about?

    Posted by: Craig | Jan 4, 2012 12:57:38 PM


  11. how about protecting the right of us religious people to tell our female teachers that they're going to hell for daring to think they can instruct others as if they were men?

    women aren't allowed to teach. women aren't to speak unless spoken to. biblical, yo.

    how about using the bible to justify anti-semitism? how about using the bible to stone a classmate who was born a bastard?

    oh wait, i forgot - using the bible only works to hate gays. puke.

    Posted by: Little Kiwi | Jan 4, 2012 12:58:43 PM


  12. CHRIS - You make a well-reasoned argument for not needing laws. But the fact that it is reasonable also becomes its liability and fatal flaw. A REASONABLE person would not presume to judge another person in the way many Christians judge and condemn gay people. It doesn't take much research to find rhetoric validating death for gays emanating from the religious right. To them, it is a logical, reasonable conclusion based on their belief system and world view.

    Your point of view suggests that people will reasonably police themselves. Yet for many people, the ethical constraints against illegal, immoral acts, not to mention hateful, hurtful behavior, begin and end with whether or not they will get caught and punished.

    Perhaps a child who was not raised in a religious home would have some immunity against the harm caused by being told that one is judged as sinful. Chances are, in the south, such children would be few in number. For most others, the concepts of "sin" and "going to hell" are powerful. Even if we presumed that children would limit their comments to, "I'm told by my pastor that homosexuality is a sin," this would be a powerful, hurtful statement not based on science, logic, and reason, but a belief system based on a specific interpretation of text that has been re-interpreted and re-translated over centuries.

    The thing is, I don't believe or trust that people would limit themselves to even the least hateful and damaging of rhetoric. And I can see this bill justifying the most hateful of condemnation based on religious freedom. I wouldn't want to risk even one child being bullied because of the presumption that people will use reason on their own, without guidelines.

    Posted by: TJ | Jan 4, 2012 12:59:05 PM


  13. heres the problem, "Sodomites" as explicitly stated in Ezekiel 16, are those with wealth, money, power and provisions who do not share with those who don't.

    literally. in the bible. a sodomite is not one who engages in gay sex acts, but one who hoards wealth.

    too bad most self-styled Christians don't know that, eh?

    Posted by: Little Kiwi | Jan 4, 2012 1:09:08 PM


  14. I just love it when social conservatives interpret words to fit their agendas. They try so hard. Here's a guide if anyone has ever been left scratching their heads after hearing one speak:

    Free speech (n) – An individual’s right to express himself via spoken, written, or recorded language that is free from any consequence or backlash including spoken, written, or recorded ridicule from another individual.

    Used in a sentence: After reading a rebuttal in the opinion column regarding his views against gay marriage, Harold exclaimed, “What ever happened to my right to free speech?!”

    Pandering (v) – When a Democrat consistently tells a minority audience he will look out for their interests.

    Used in a sentence: Obama is pandering when he talks about health care.

    Misused in a sentence: Romney is pandering when he tells his current audience conflicting views from a previous audience to incite the most positive response.

    Fascism (n) – The state of the country when a Democrat holds the office of the Presidency

    University (n) – A place where American students go to be indoctrinated by the liberals

    State’s Rights (n) – The right of a US state to create their own laws such that they parallel Republican viewpoints.

    Used in a sentence: “Of course states should have the right to outlaw abortion and birth control regardless of Supreme Court rulings and Federal law!” exclaimed Santorum, “But the federal government should be able to outlaw any states’ LGBT equality laws.”

    Activist judge (n) – A judge who sides with a liberal or progressive point of view within modern social context

    Used in a sentence: I can’t believe what those activist judges did with Loving v. Virginia.

    Gotcha question (n) – A question a candidate cannot honestly answer without turning off his audience

    Family values (n) – Policies that support and build white, Christian, straight, Wall Street working families

    The Holy Bible (n) – A cafeteria-style menu of stories and verses designed to be picked and chosen at will in order to commend and condemn all those desired

    Bully (n) – An individual who is picked on that retaliates

    Religious freedom (n) – A person’s right that trumps state law to discriminate and abuse others when supported by the person’s religious beliefs

    Posted by: kpo5 | Jan 4, 2012 1:18:34 PM


  15. KP05, that gave me a raging hardon. thanks :D

    Posted by: Little Kiwi | Jan 4, 2012 1:28:00 PM


  16. is the bill ONLY for Christian students, or can the bill be used by local muslim children to harm Christians?

    i can never remember: do religious freedoms in america apply to all religions or just "Christians?" and to what extent? can i convert to islam and bash me some christian infidels? :D

    Posted by: Little Kiwi | Jan 4, 2012 1:35:53 PM


  17. After the Law is passed.

    note* step 1 through 4 can be in any order*

    step 1. christians bullied muslim
    step 2. muslims voice retaliation
    step 3. christians burn korans
    step 4. muslim burn bibles
    step 5. welcome to gangstarz town

    Posted by: MalaysianHO | Jan 4, 2012 2:04:04 PM


  18. I thought religious freedoms were protected already, so isn't this TN bill redundant?

    It's not bullying merely to state your beliefs. It IS bullying when you continually browbeat someone with those beliefs.

    Maybe it's time to declare "gay" a religion.

    Posted by: Randy* | Jan 4, 2012 2:18:12 PM


  19. What no exemption for harshing on the Christ-killers?

    Posted by: BobN | Jan 4, 2012 2:58:25 PM


  20. Isn't this US Taliban and Sharia Law?

    I thought they were against anything Muslim.

    Posted by: Dale | Jan 4, 2012 3:27:30 PM


  21. Dale deep down inside they are really for the Muslims because of what Bradlee Dean stated about Muslims killing gays...

    Posted by: Silas | Jan 4, 2012 6:29:03 PM


  22. This sounds like an attention-grab by some hungry politician, looking for free publicity. Funny how the article doesn't mention the author, they leave it at a rather vague, "proposal". Well, who proposed it? Who authored it? Who supports it? Names would be handy. This "proposal", BTW, doesn't stand a snowball's chance in hell. Whatever happened to "judge not, lest you be judged"? Seems like they forgot about that part of the Bible too. Maybe they should OPEN the Bible and READ from ALL of it, instead of thumping it. Thumping does no good. You can give a dirty man a bar of soap, but if he doesn't use it, what good is it?

    Posted by: millerbeach | Jan 5, 2012 5:17:51 AM


  23. Really? Wow, Tennessee, good to see you advance into the 12th Century... Nice to see these so-called 'christians' as they really are: Small minded, and ignorant to the end of time.

    Posted by: mmike1969 | Jan 6, 2012 2:16:31 AM


  24. I live in a gay neighborhood and am being Gang Stalked by gays and lesbians. I am straight and old Ive always been a LBGT defender and do not understand this behavior.

    Posted by: Margaret cone | Jan 16, 2012 10:23:26 PM


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