1. Kenny says

    Said Police Chief Cam Sanchez: “Hate crimes like these will not be tolerated and those responsible will be held accountable.”

    Wow I love that for once someone who is an officer of the law said the RIGHT thing for a change. Hope the morons fry for this uneducated nazis.

  2. Francis says

    Horrific, what a horrible way to enter the new year. Hopefully there is a way to send well wishes or a donation to help pay for their medical costs.

    Hate crimes are a problem everywhere, Bill, sadly. The difference is that in a state like Alabama or Tennessee, homophobia is the norm and average mentality. Whereas in other areas there tend to be particular groups that are more homophobic, but not the culture at large. On the west coast, skinheads are one of the main groups who commit hate crimes. They are a serious problem and a safety threat. Hopefully the victims recover physically and mentally.

  3. Jerry says

    On New Year’s Eve at 5:50PM, my partner exited our kitchen door to do a chore. As soon as he exited the door, rapid high caliber gun fire, about 5 shots, came for the property line of our stalking neighbor. I came out on the porch and the gun fire continued. In all there were about 20 shots fired. We call 911 and the arriving officer stated that the recordings on our Iphones, that were made of the event, could have been old recording that we could have fabricated them. While he was standing there, 4 other shots were fired from another stalking neighbor’s property ( these two have joined forces as a team). He went to investigate the gun fire and came back saying that the neighbor didn’t hear anything. Things are building. The recent investigation of bullet hole in our dawn to dusk security light was an insult and a joke.

    Boys and Girls,be alert, Hate doesn’t take a Holiday.

  4. redball says

    a stupid self-hating queen will insult the victims by insisting that they deserved a beating for not fighting back & winning, in 3…2…1…

    never mind that the fight was 3 against 2.

    never mind that many people (straight, gay, and other) are not mentally or physically prepared to bash back at a moment’s notice when going about their normal daily life.

  5. Francis says

    Jerry, where do you and your partner live? It sounds like absolute hell and I know you’ve made posts in the past detailing what you’ve had to go through. What do you plan on doing to make sure you and your partner are safe?

  6. Bill says

    Thanks for the education, Francis. As a Southerner who has also live in CA, NJ, NY, and MD, I had no idea that homophobia was normal in the South, but generally shunned elsewhere. I must have completely missed that in all my travels. Oh, and I would also like to apologize for my existence as a Southerner, which obviously makes me homophobic. I know you wish we would all disappear in the same way Pat Robertson wishes all gays would disappear. Nope, no irony there at all. Anyway, thanks for missing, and therefore proving my point. Cheers.

  7. DanSwon says

    jesus JERRY that is terrible. i feel truly lucky to live in a city in northern england where this kind of stuff pretty much never happens. plus we don’t have guns

  8. Paul B. says

    @Danswon…lucky for you. Gays in the US are subject to these hate crimes all the time. I live in CA…guns everywhere you look. Put a gun into an uneducated persons hands and this is what you get….too often.
    You can almost always associate this type of behaviour with low level ed & as a result…low self-esteem. I don’t know a single person who would deliberately hurt another person like this…but I’m happy to say…my friends are educated. Connect the dots!

  9. Hunter says

    The issue of whether or not your iphone recordings of the shooting are good evidence is not something that is decided “on the fly” by a police officer. If the officer did not take your account of the incident seriously, it is time to start going up the chain of command. Also consider calling the FBI as you believe these are bias related incidents and local law enforcement are not treating them as such.

  10. jason says

    Why was it necessary to mention that the assailants were all white? Would Andy have referred to them as “all black” if they had been all black? i doubt it.

  11. HoHo says

    sugarrhill +1

    Were the attackers all Black, and Andy failed to mention it, I know what you’d be saying, Jason.

    Andy should always mention the race of the perpetrators in cases like that, since many on here assume the thugs are Black or Hispanic or Immigrant, whenever a sad news like this comes out.

  12. XUSMCVET says

    It’s high time to buy a gun with a laser sight and learn how to use it.

    Having a laser pointed directly at you and knowing there just might be a GUN attached to it is enough to stop most perps dead in their tracks.

  13. ajjanthony says

    @PaulB. – obviously you are British or South African by your spelling. While I do believe in gun control, a gun holder’s level of education is not a huge factor in whether crimes are committed. Sure , if the person is borderline retarded that is one thing but beyond that it is negligible. Further, as a non-American, I don’t think you are an authority on the topic. Shut it and got off your Brit high horse of generalizing.

  14. ajjanthony says

    @PaulB. Furthermore, guns are not “everywhere” in the US – that is an exaggeration. Again, I’m PRO gun control but I’m tired on NON-Americans painting the U.S. as the wild west…

  15. Rusty_Dai says

    I lived in Santa Barbara for 50 years and sometimes I’d like to move back. It saddens me that members of the Gay Community are treated so badly, here or anywhere.

    Chief of Police Cam Sanchez is different and quite an improvement over some of the prior chiefs. I hope they find the 3 creeps and prosecute them with the hate crime enhancement. Best wishes to the victims.

  16. millerbeach says

    @Jerry: Do you have an attorney? Have you contacted him/her about the way the local police have treated you regarding this and other incidents? Something is way wrong with their response. Someone else suggested contacting the FBI…great idea. This does indeed sound like a PATTERN of hate crimes. I hope you have kept detailed documentation of each and every incident. Praying for your safety, buddy!

  17. Jiff363 says

    skin heads should be shot on sight but just enough to let them die slow and painfully and this comes from a German that knows what these monsters are capable of. I say kill skin heads where they stand and world will be better for it.

  18. Bill Michael says

    Furthermore, my partner and I don’t go anywhere without ready access to a firearm. We decided years ago that we aren’t going to tolerate being beaten or stabbed and left as fodder for the newspapers. It is our intention to NOT be a helpless victim. It is going to cost our attacker(s).

  19. classychazy says

    Hate crimes has no boundaries it is everywhere and it is sickening! I live in Ohio I am heterosexual, but my father was gay and just like Jerry we lived in fear of idiots. My father had his car vandalized on a regular baisis, not to mention having our house spray painted, and bricks thrown throw our windows. It use to piss us off to know end when we would call the law and they did NOTHING! When my dad would fire someone he would call them, because he knew what would happen after awhile he stopped calling and started leaving his car at my uncles on those occasions. He went out and bought a gun after one of the bricks narrowly missed me while I was laying on the couch one night watching T.v. The next day he took me to a firing range and showed me how to use it. His biggest fear was he would not be home and someone would break in house to hurt me to get back at him. I was 14 at the time this was the year I learned if the law was not going to protect us we had to do it ourselves!
    Jerry I feel so sorry for you I think you should call the FBI and go to some of your town meetings. Let your elected officials know what’s going on and let them know your a voter and a tax payer! Don’t let them take away your right to feel safe in your own home. I would also go as far as letting the media know of your difficulties and tell them who the police officer was that responded to the call and make sure they k.ow what a worthless ass he is!

  20. Jerry says


    Thanks for your support words. We have done much. We have been ignored. We just can’t get support.

    Andy, I posted earlier to thanks those who offered advice and supportive words. Any reason why my post didn’t make it to the forum? If there is one, could you please let me know?

  21. Jerry says

    You need backing/support to get the FBI involved. If we had support we would attend a Meeting, we have written elected township officials who have ignored our mail

    >>> classy

    We have, PGN has ignored us,our local papers have been contacted several times and we have been ignored, we contacted NBC 10
    Philly, they responded and they never got back to us, contacted our local TV station and never received any response.

    I have even tried to spark interest with Andy here and have never received a response. I also learned some time ago to take screen shots of request of drop downs and my post.

  22. Jamie says

    SHAME…the Taxi dirver did nothing…the person filming the attack did nothing…what is this world coming to? I am bringing a shotgun with me everywhere I go from now on.

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