Gay Friendly Council Man Hangs Up On ‘Silly’ Homophobic Radio Host

BengrayOmaha City Councilman Ben Gray was not having right wing radio host Tom Becka's "silliness" during a recent debate about the Nebraska city's LGBT-inclusive anti-bias laws, laws Gray successfully lobbied to passage. Becka claims those laws are unnecessary because, according to either his willful ignorance or desire to be a Limbaugh-like blowhard, discrimination doesn't exist.

Despite mountains of evidence presented during hearings on the law, Becka claims, "You have no proof, there's no evidence of people losing their jobs because of their sexuality."

Here is more of that conversation, via AKSARENT:

Becka: …There are people with agendas and politicians that will use it for votes when the reality is there's not a problem. There's all sorts of laws that are passed all the time by both sides, the left and the right of feel-good legislation, of laws that aren't necessary but because somebody has an agenda and some special group wants to get something through even though there's no need for the law. I mean, you'd agree with that, right?

Gray: Not necessarily, no. I mean that there's things that go on because people have different agendas. They do it all the time, but… I didn't do this because I have a specific agenda.

Becka: But yet you have no proof, there's no evidence of people losing their jobs because of their sexuality.

Gray: Yeah, there's been proof and documentation that was presented at the public hearing.

Becka: Well, how many? …[When] the other side isn't there to defend themselves, I'm not sure that qualifies, do you?

Gray: You know… we passed a law… There has been documentation that there is discrimination that exists. It exists at all levels from the time you're a child to the time you're an adult. That has been documented and pointed out by several studies and several organizations. So, to assume that it doesn't exist would be purely… it would be stupid, quite frankly, because there's enough evidence that says that it is.

Becka: …It [discrimination] doesn't stop with the government forcing something on businesses.

Gray: Well, most businesses already have it as a policy…

Becka: Well then, why do you need the law?

Gray: For those that don't.

Becka: Because we can't allow people to make their own free choices?

Becka then tries to push the argument into a more extreme direction, claiming that if people like Gray believe in anti-discrimination laws, they should start advocating for overweight or unattractive people, at which point Gray says Becka is being too "silly" and hangs up, like any person with common sense would do.

Here is a link to the audio, which begins around the 3:55 mark, if you want to take a listen for yourself.


  1. says

    i love the illogical excuses of the conservative right.

    pretend rapes don’t happen and women can’t get pregnant from rapes.

    ignore that workplace (and housing) discrimination exists against LGBT people and other historically-persecuted minority groups.

    when the facts negate your chosen opinions pretend they don’t exist.


  2. PAUL B. says

    If you’ve ever had the misfortune of listening to Tom Becka…count your blessings. He’s a pukey mess of Beck & Limbaugh combined who actually thinks he has a good sense of humor. A scarey recipe…don’t you think!

  3. Eric says

    Talk about “people with agendas and politicians that will use it for votes when the reality is there’s not a problem.” Perhaps this guy should take a gander at the GOP doing just that with all these insane voter ID laws…

  4. Francis says

    It would be far easier for these people to admit they just don’t want homosexuality to be “protected” and given the A-OK. Because that’s really what this is about. It’s not even about “gay”, it’s about homosexuality. Their lies simply are not bought anymore by anyone at-all educated.

    Sadly, there are a lot of uneducated folk out there.

  5. candideinnc says

    15 years ago I spoke before the Raleigh City Council about this same issue. I was a college professor hiding his sexual identity for fear of being ousted by heterosexuals in positions of power. Despite the fact that another gay man from my college followed me and affirmed what I was saying, right wingers bounded to the podium to demand, “Prove it! Prove discrimination! You have no proof!” The fact is, they don’t care if we are victims of discrimination. They wanted to maintain their sanctimonious sense of superiority, and never wanted to have it challenged in a court of law.

    Rarely does a victim of discrimination succeed in Court. This is because the majority will inevitable be the decision makers in court cases. What laws like these are designed to do, though, is to put the weight of authority on the side of the victim rather than on the side of the bigots. And the bigots hate that!

  6. says

    Since Becka said “the other side isn’t there to defend themselves” that proves that employment discrimination does exist.

    You can’t have an “other” side, unless the side they’re other to exists; and that other side would be those who have faced employment discrimination, which must be real because Becka unwittingly admitted it is.

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