Bishop Of Green Bay Calls Equality ‘Instrinsically Evil’

RickenDavidConservative pastors are really laying on the histrionics ahead of the election. First there was Maryland Rev. Robert Anderson using scripture to say that people who support equality are “worthy of death”.

Now we have David Ricken, the Catholic Bishop for Green Bay, Wisconsin, claiming a vote for equality is a vote for evil.

Here’s what he had to say in a letter to parishioners sent on October 24th:

A well-formed Christian conscience does not permit one to vote for a
political program that contradicts fundamental contents of faith and
morals…

Some candidates and one party have
even chosen some of these as their party’s or their personal political
platform. To vote for someone in favor of these positions means that you
could be morally ‘complicit’ with these choices which are intrinsically
evil.

This could put your own soul in jeopardy.

Yeesh. That’s some strong stuff.

Ricken justifies his letter by claiming the church has a duty “[to] speak out regarding moral issues, especially on those issues that impact the ‘common good’.”

Comments

  1. nick says

    Once again -any representative of the Holy See possesses no credibility to speak on morality of any kind. “The Church” is morally bankrupt and we do not live in a theocracy—–yet—-give it time- Umerica is well on its way …..

  2. Eric says

    Funny, Paul of Tarsus had something else to say about equality:

    “For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.”

    -Galatians 3:28-29

  3. UFFDA says

    And to think, my protestant mother ran away with me from my Catholic father when I was a wee bairn. I missed a bullet. A missile. A bomb. All tutoring from this “inherently evil” institution which embodies “tyranny over the mind of man.” I am grateful every day of my life.

  4. kit says

    I fail to see how the “common good” is negatively affected by two loving people marrying each other. That is the problem with these horrible people — they think that everyone’s business is THEIR business. But it ain’t.

  5. kit says

    I fail to see how the “common good” is negatively affected by two loving people marrying each other. That is the problem with these horrible people — they think that everyone’s business is THEIR business. But it ain’t.

  6. andrew says

    Sadly hell is just a primitive myth. If it existed many if not most of the Catholic Bishops would be headed there, for knowingly putting thousands and thousands of children into the hands of preditor priests.

  7. Bud Clark says

    We are one VERY small step away from the pope declaring (infallibly, of course) that GLBT people have NO souls, and that anyone who supports them in any way, shape, or form is automatically excommunicated.

    At that point, the US should recall our ambassador to the Vatican, compel all US bishops to register as operatives of a foreign government, rescind their tax-exempt status, and investigate the US Conference of Catholic Bishops for conspiracy to deprive us of our CIVIL rights, under the RICCO anti-racketeering law.

  8. says

    Oh, i love when the Kidf***ers tell people that casting a vote will put your soul in moral jeopardy.

    your made-up nonsense religion with its theologically inconsistent and muddled mythology is an embarrassment to 21st century intelligence.

    remember – this is the group that sat silent while more than 6 million Jews were exterminated. they don’t know what they’re talking about.

  9. Caliban says

    The reverse is equally true, that people who have gay friends but vote for Romney are complicit in his homophobic policies. You SHOULD take it personally because it IS personal.

    Has the Catholic Church EVER been right about anything?

  10. CPT_Doom says

    So conspiring to obstruct justice, aid and abet rapists, intimidate witnesses and defraud insurance companies isn’t “intrinsically evil”? That just don’t make sense.

    Oh, and this is the same church that declared Newt Gingrich’s previous two marriages immoral mistakes, his children bastards and allowed him to “marry” the woman he paid to give him hummers for 6 years while she destroyed his relationship with his then-wife – using taxpayer money, of course. That’s their idea of morality. And I say this as a former Catholic myself.

  11. plinx says

    The funny thing is that US Catholics pay absolutely no attention to their bishops (or the pope). Even if they agree with their bishops on a particular issue, they resent being told what to do. This statement has far less power than it seems, and even works to the benefit of the LGBT community.

  12. john patrick says

    Sending out that garbage of a letter was intrinsically evil. The words coming out of David Ricken’s mouth are intrinsically evil. The teachings of the RC hierarchs against marriage equality are intrinsically evil.

  13. Joe in CT says

    I pray that God will forgive the Bishop for his misguided and intrinsically evil beliefs. He is just as wrong as the church leaders who once supported slavery and accommodated the extermination of Jews in the last century. Criminals.

  14. Brad says

    “A well-formed Christian conscience does not permit one to vote for a political program that contradicts fundamental contents of faith and morals…”

    A well-formed Christian conscience is the same as saying a firmly-established brainwashing. So people who don’t even believe in this drivel have to live by the whims of the people that do. I suppose buggering little kids is not intrinsically evil since it was done by priests. Typical Catholic, Christianist, American-Taliban at work policing the lives of others.

  15. Diogenes Arktos says

    “fundamental contents of faith and morals”

    It truly is a strech to believe that hatred of gays is a *fundamental* content of faith and morals. I have heard, unfortunately, that some Bishops in Africa have gone further, to wit: hatred of gays is the heart of the Gospel.

    If nothing else, Bishop Anderson and the rest of the American hierarchy should realize that these statements about complicity in evil teach clearly that the congregations of the parishes are complicit in the evil of child rape. Someone should point that out from the pulpit and see what happens.

  16. Diogenes Arktos says

    “fundamental contents of faith and morals”

    It truly is a strech to believe that hatred of gays is a *fundamental* content of faith and morals. I have heard, unfortunately, that some Bishops in Africa have gone further, to wit: hatred of gays is the heart of the Gospel.

    If nothing else, Bishop Anderson and the rest of the American hierarchy should realize that these statements about complicity in evil teach clearly that the congregations of the parishes are complicit in the evil of child rape. Someone should point that out from the pulpit and see what happens.

  17. says

    Two facts about Bishop Ricken:

    1. His first bishopric was as Coadjutor Bishop of Cheyenne under (and later succeeding) Bishop Hart, who in turn was accused of child molestation both as a priest in Missouri and as a Bishop in Wyoming. Bishop Hart was one of the clerics for whom the Dioceses of St. Joseph/Kansas City paid $10,000,000.00 to 47 accusers. Bishop Ricken never said a word publicly about the scandal surrounding his predecessor (and former boss), much less apologized.

    2. The Vatican rewarded Bishop Ricken (for sweeping that scandal under the rug) by translating him to the Diocese of Green Bay. A little over a year later he lobbied the Wisconsin Legislature heavily to shorten the statute of limitations for child molestation victims to sue. His lobbyist of choice was a businessman on his diocesan Financial Council. That man was Ron Johnson who ran with Bishop Ricken’s pastoral letters of support against Senator Feingold and won.

    In short, Bishop Ricken is a right wing Republican in clerical garb. He demonstrably cares more about the Church as an institution than he does about punishing child molesters or seeking justice for their underage victims. Woe unto ye hypocrites!

  18. SoLeftImRight says

    This coming from a representative of the kidfuckers? Hey dude, you know what is “intrinsically evil”? Child molestation. You know what is even more evil? Covering it up. I’m not Catholic, your views are meaningless to me, and have no precedence over my “intrinsic” rights as a US citizen. So you can take your “Christian conscience” and shove it up your ass.

    Tax the churches!

  19. says

    btw, Christians & Catholics, the GOP’s platform includes healthcare and fiscal policies that are a DIRECT CONTRADICTION OF THE ACTIONS AND WORDS ATTRIBUTED TO CHRIST.

    So if you vote GOP thinking it’ll keep your soul clean, you’re fresh outta luck.

    You’ll be contributing to a modern day Sodom, and by Sodom I mean as it’s described in the Bible – Ezekiel 16 – the hoarding of wealth and a refusal to share all that you have with those who have nothing.

    sorry. you can’t be a bible-based Christian and vote republican. Jesus would have hated the GOP’s fiscal and healthcare policies.

  20. says

    I honestly haven’t seen a clearer explication of just how, not only un-American, but anti-American the Catholic hierarchy is. All of our foundational principles — equality under the law, freedom of speech, freedom of (and from) religion — are, to them, “intrinsically evil.”

  21. says

    Oh no! Every time a gay couple gets married, a white Christian baby dies!

    Oh wait…no, it doesn’t. Nor does anything else bad or “evil” occur.

    Just another ignorant bigot using a 2000 year old book to justify his hate.

  22. Tanoka says

    I wonder what other letters this man has written to his parishoners. Something about treating others as you’d like them to treat you, perhaps? Or maybe more specific, like, oh, I don’t know… DON’T MOLEST CHILDREN!

    Is it not inappropriate pressure to tell religious people that they’ll go to hell if they vote for the ‘wrong’ person/party?

  23. cbhermey says

    I hope the good bish knows where his soul is headed… He can go straight to hell, along with the rest of those pious idiots.
    It’s no wonder the catholic church is fast becoming irrelevant here in the US.

  24. SAYWHAT says

    @ERIC- you da man.
    @Tessie- BWAHAHAHAHAH

    Gotta love it when some a***oles across the US declare themselves as God’s mouthpieces. I find it SO ironic that the “apostle” Paul never met Jesus. How can one be an apostle of Christ never having met the man???

  25. says

    There is a definite up side to this stance of the catholic church’s leadership against the gay marriage. The more they speak out the less relevant they are shown to be. They display no inclination to serious dialogue with the gay community. Rather they come off as quite dictatorial and intellectually constipated, closed to any expansion of their own thinking on the issue of human sexuality. Recent history shows they could really use some new ideas about sex. Gay people of faith can be really good for them; it’s their loss.

  26. Jerry6 says

    Every time I see the rantings of “Religious” Leaders, all I can see are worried old bigots who are seeing that their livelihoods are in danger of ending because the “Faithful” are coming to realize that they have been hoodwinked with all of this “God” stuff all of their lives.

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