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British Archbishop Puts Kibosh On Gay Mass In London

NicholsVincent Nichols, the Catholic Archbishop of Westminster who described marriage equality proposals as "Orwellian," wielded his powers like a tyrant and shut down a long-running mass for LGBT Catholics in London.

From The Guardian:

The Archbishop of Westminster, head of Roman Catholics in England and Wales, has ordered that special fortnightly "Soho masses" for gay and lesbian churchgoers in central London are not appropriate and are to be axed.

The services, intended to be particularly welcoming to lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgendered Catholics, had been held at Our Lady of the Assumption church in the West End for six years with the blessing of senior clergy but had attracted criticism from traditionalists.

The cancellation by Archbishop Vincent Nichols will be seen as a victory for those who lobbied for an end to what they see as an affront to church teachings.

Though he has ended the special, lavender-colored mass, Nichols will allow the church to continue offering "pastoral care" for gay and lesbian congregants.

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  1. Why isn't this man in prison for aiding and abetting the rape of children?

    Posted by: MARCUS BACHMANN | Jan 2, 2013 12:58:32 PM


  2. So this thing about the Church caring for its homosexual members was just a lie. Why am I not surprised? I'm not surprised because I grew up in that lying Church.

    Posted by: Demian | Jan 2, 2013 1:01:52 PM


  3. Well, as I have said many times, we know where we stand now.

    There never was a "love the sinner, hate the sin" benevolent attitude.
    There never was a Christian "love your neighbour" belief.
    There never was a toleration of gays, as Catholics sought to be tolerated after the Acts of Uniformity and Supremacy.These catholics have forgotten that they had to fight for Catholic Emancipation.

    These people, the Archbishop, the Pope, the Cardinals , the Hierarchy of the Roman Catholic Church, have always hated us.
    We belittle ourselves by attending their masses. Who were the fools among the GLBT community who attended the "Soho Masses" ?
    What the hell were they thinking ?
    Let's get strong and stand up for ourselves with some self respect; and stop trying to be part of a miserable club of self loathing guilt ridden hangers-on.

    Masses and religious services for us gays are "not appropriate".
    WTF more needs to be said ?

    Posted by: JackFknTwist | Jan 2, 2013 1:08:52 PM


  4. I don't think there's any linkage to "Catholic Emancipation". The established Church of England isn't doing any better in terms of inclusiveness for interested gays and lesbians.

    They're all just being "Christian".

    Posted by: Vint | Jan 2, 2013 1:24:08 PM


  5. My point being that the catholics have kicked away the ladder by which they climbed to accepance....and don't want others using it.....least the sinful gays.

    Posted by: JackFknTwist | Jan 2, 2013 1:47:16 PM


  6. His message is clear and very sad. It is "stay away". I'm not Catholic (I'm Lutherian), but I still feel The Catholic Church is taking steps to the wrong direction.

    Posted by: Matt26 | Jan 2, 2013 2:09:26 PM


  7. Ladies and gents:

    We've ALL been BRAINWASHED from birth by by various means ['education', ideological parent[s], etc., and for many, myself included, this included organized dogmatic religion. Simply wash your hands of them. Excommunicate THEM from your life...they [and by they I mean ALL organized so-called religions, Christians, Muslims, Jews, etc., they ALL hold BIZARRE and IRRATIONAL beliefs] have caused and continue to cause great emotional, psychological and even physical suffering and death down through the centuries. I hope I live to see the day men and women everywhere finally recognize these frauds for what they are.

    Remember, it's all about $ and control.

    Posted by: ratbastard | Jan 2, 2013 2:10:39 PM


  8. So the few sycophants they could count on for support have now been kicked in the ass! Take the hint fellas and move on.

    (I suppose the closeted clergy are getting very nervous about where all this gay acceptance is going to lead. They want to keep their closet nice and cozy, just the way it is, no girls allowed, except to do the cleaning and cooking, a boys club, but the first rule is nobody admits they are gay, not in public, never in public.)

    Posted by: don't let the door hit you on the way out | Jan 2, 2013 2:47:29 PM


  9. I wonder why this priest does not try to emulate the life of Jesus? Would Jesus slam the door in the face of anyone?

    Posted by: trees | Jan 2, 2013 2:49:53 PM


  10. who still attend this evil church are who still attend this evil church are getting the point

    Posted by: Bob | Jan 2, 2013 2:56:05 PM


  11. Why even bother with the blood on their hands Catholics.... Londoners can always go here and ALWAYs be accepted...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolitan_Community_Church_London

    Posted by: John Normile | Jan 2, 2013 3:04:50 PM


  12. This guy is a total d**khead. And probably a paedophile.

    Posted by: danswon | Jan 2, 2013 3:11:19 PM


  13. Ungodly, unchristlike, and a betrayal to those who would like to remain part of the RC church, it's time for those of you who still give the RCs support, to wake-up! This disgraced, thoroughly shamed and vicious institution deserves zero support. From the days of John Chrysostom (4th c.), the first homophobe who equated homosexuals with murderers and as a vicious anti-semite coined the term "Christ-killers" for the Jews & made it stick, to later "doctors" of the church such as Aquinas who called homosexuality "unnatural", the war against gays has continued unabated. The Roman Catholic Church is a cursed institution. It's time to marginalize it for good.

    Posted by: JM | Jan 2, 2013 3:11:55 PM


  14. I once attended an (illicit) Dignity Mass in Washington, DC, where the liturgy was celebrated with full participation, where everyone knew and sang the hymns with faith and fervor, where the Word of God was reverently read and wisely expounded, where the sacrament was celebrated in a dignified and fitting manner. There was nothing offensive to taste or to the dogmas of the church, and if there were, it was no more than you would find in most suburban parishes where the wealthy and self-centered gather each Sunday to congratulate themselves on their prosperity and on not being like other folks, you know, like those publicans and all. (Has anyone bothered to read the Pope's words about unregulated capitalism?)

    I left thinking that the celebration had been what I imagine the Roman liturgy expects: prayerful, reverent, joyful, contemplative, communal. And yet that Mass was one that the cardinal would not permit to take place in a Roman Catholic building. The faithful, however, -- God must love them and wonder why on earth they put up with his so-called followers -- went ahead and celebrated anyway in a Protestant building that offered them welcome, a bit like a certain inn offered shelter to a pregnant woman and her spouse some years ago. You may have heard the story.

    They celebrated because the Mass does not belong to the cardinal nor to the Pope nor to the local homophobic pastor. The Greek word from which "liturgy" derives means "work of the people." It belongs to the people of God and to God. And, as one gay friend who keeps hanging in there told me, "They will take communion away from me when they pry it from my cold, dead hands."

    I cannot join them, but I do not see any reason to mock them. I think they know exactly what they are doing and why. And it is not bowing to the powers that Don't Be, but to the Power they seek to know beyond those false powers, the Power that exists to free and empower the weak, not to oppress them. Whatever they want to call it, whatever I want to call it, whatever anyone wants to call it, that is worth seeking. IMHO.

    Posted by: Damien | Jan 2, 2013 3:25:32 PM


  15. ........And, as one gay friend who keeps hanging in there told me, "They will take communion away from me when they pry it from my cold, dead hands."

    GUESS WHAT? IF YOU ARE PRESENT, YOU GIVE THEM AMMUNITION -- you are simply being selfish and lazy if you are not raising a huge fuss

    Posted by: Bob | Jan 2, 2013 3:55:04 PM


  16. If the Catholic Church had REAL governmental power --a vile snoot like this cleric would be burning us at the stake. Whenever the Catholic Church has had actual power, it has been savage.

    Fight and resist this evil organization!

    Posted by: Dan Cobb | Jan 2, 2013 4:13:08 PM


  17. And the hate goes on....

    Posted by: jamal49 | Jan 2, 2013 6:50:06 PM


  18. Interesting that gay-friendly masses in the UK lasted this long. JPII put an end to them in the U.S. in the 70s.

    Posted by: BobN | Jan 2, 2013 7:07:02 PM


  19. "Gay Catholics" are better off realizing that their church hates them, and what they stand for.

    Posted by: EchtKultig | Jan 2, 2013 7:38:15 PM


  20. the same thing happened at st. francis xavier in greenich village. they had a mass that focused on gay parishioners, but the higher ups shut it down. still that's a very gay friendly parish.
    i think this "shut down the gay mass" scenario also played out in dc, either at st. matt's (the cathedral off dupont circle, which also has loads of gay parisioners) or one of the other downtown dc catholic churches.
    it's a load of crap. the catholic church regularly aims masses at particular groups: teen-agers, blacks, latinos, military personnel, etc.
    but not for gay people.
    read: you're not welcome here if the word gay is part of the way you define yourself.

    Posted by: matt | Jan 2, 2013 8:18:25 PM


  21. I'm not sure how the gay masses ever got started. Same-sex activity will always be sinful in the eyes of the RC Church. Gays cannot act on physical attraction - per the church, they are called to chastity. If they do have same-sex activity, they must confess it as a sin. It is such a self-loathing mindset. I just hope that those who no longer find comfort in the RC Church find it in a gay-affirming church or elsewhere and not drown in despair.

    Posted by: bravo | Jan 2, 2013 8:53:08 PM


  22. For the past two papacies, the official policy of the Catholic Church towards its gay and lesbian members can only be described as a purge.

    Posted by: Mike P | Jan 2, 2013 11:20:39 PM


  23. Isn't it ironic that a church like the Roman Catholic church governed by so many closeted homosexuals is so anti-homosexual. I remember watching in the late 1960's and the 70's,and into the 80's a large number of heterosexual priests leaving the priesthood to date and marry. Leaving behind a priesthood populated by a majority homosexual population who had, sadly, no place to go.

    Posted by: andrew | Jan 3, 2013 1:06:23 AM


  24. "Isn't it ironic that a church like the Roman Catholic church governed by so many closeted homosexuals is so anti-homosexual."

    Not really!

    Posted by: EchtKultig | Jan 3, 2013 3:10:01 AM


  25. The UK likes to think it's so hip and cool, but the truth is they are still living in the past and are behind the times compared to other countries like Spain, Denmark, Sweden, the Netherlands, etc.

    Posted by: Out of Date | Jan 3, 2013 4:46:46 AM


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