1. beef and fur says

    So at what point during the interview does Lance begin the atonement process and use the ceremonial plate on the credenza to present his Oprah with his other nut?

  2. says

    You know, it’s easy to stand out in cycling without touching these drugs.

    I ride a bicycle decorated with lights and I wear clear plastic jackets with lights while riding my bicycle and I stand out quite well, thank you.

    Leave the drugs alone!!!!!!!!

  3. Bill says

    The “confession” was not particularly illuminating: the interesting question is how they managed to do it for 7 (approximately) month-long races and not get caught, even though samples could be kept for years and retested as the testing technology improved. Someone who spends as much time as Lance Armstrong had to spend training is not going to have enough time to become an expert in biochemistry. Who figured it out and how did they do it? One way to cheat and not get caught that does not require expertise in chemistry is to have a spy in the testing organization who can tell you when you are going to be tested – then all you have to know is the time it takes for a drug to become undetectable by several orders of magnitude. Another is to have some way of swapping samples, which might require the testing staff to “look the other way” for a “small fee.”

    The other question is whether the use of performance-enhancing drugs changed the outcome of the races: it may not if everyone is cheating equally. Also, these races are really team sports – there is no “record” for best time such as there is for runners. Too much depends on conditions (head winds versus tail winds) and race tactics. If one guy sprints to finish first in a stage, the others can draft him and then try to shoot past him at the end, when he is a bit more tired than they are. If you could draft the guy who wins each stage, and it is a different guy each time, you can win the race without winning a single stage.

    Was there a lot more to the interview than this short video clip? Maybe such questions were answered later in the interview.

  4. ratbastard says

    Well, either way, he was d*mn good at what he did. To be able to pull that off for so long is impressive. But of course his competitors have dirt on them also.

    That said, I never liked Armstrong. I’ve always thought there was something fishy about him and he always seemed to come off as a jerk, IMO.

  5. Gary says

    To be noted that many in the LA gay community have used steroids to enhance their physiques. You know who you are. Plastic surgery is not foreign to this group either. Look around…

  6. td says

    My opinion is that with how rampant doping is in cycling (like in baseball), the key variable remains the athlete.

    It tarnishes the sport, certainly, but he was just competing by doing the same thing they all do.

  7. Tre says

    Yawn… All the top cyclists dope. You simply cannot compete and win the TDF if you don’t dope. But why in the HELL would you do it SEVEN TIMES? That’s just gluttonous and stupid. Win it once or twice and you walk away as a great cyclist and are remembered through history. But what Lance did is something that only a truly insecure person would do.

  8. anon says

    When is O going to admit to something? Those diets were always a bit miraculous.

    Using drugs isn’t like cheating in several ways, but everyone conflates the two. An ‘unfair’ advantage of some sort is almost unavoidable. If your ultimate goal is to have everyone cross the finish line at the same time, you probably should not be in the competition business.

  9. Bill says

    The things that should be held against Armstrong are the lawsuits, apparently filed to force people to shut up. That’s really abusive. He should be required to pay the legal fees of everyone falsely sued, plus any damages that resulted from those lawsuits.

    I just saw an article which more or less indicated that he couldn’t even remember how many people they sued.

  10. JordanJacklson says

    But..but..straight people, and straight men are all so fantastic, and moral, and have such great values. I mean that’s what we’re constantly told. Heterosexual unions trigger fantastic offspring, and heterosexuals are the ideal…and..and…

    lol. heteros keeping it classy as always.

  11. UFFDA says

    If they all doped, lied and raced then Lance wins as the best doping racer liar. Still a hero. And what can be bad about a man who helps other men with their balls?

  12. Rich F. says

    @ UFFDA: What can be wrong about him? Perhaps the lives he ruined with the slander lawsuits he leveled against anyone who had the temerity to claim he was doping.

    The ONLY reason why he’s admitting to his cheating is because he wants to compete again, and USADA wouldn’t allow that unless he came clean and “turned state’s evidence” against other dopers.

    The man’s a jerk.

  13. kode says

    I can’t understand people defending Armstrong. Dude’s a criminal who earned millions and millions from cheating. He earned just from one court case 7.5 million when he forced a company to pay him the bonus they had promised him from winning enough Tour de Frances. The company, SCA Promotions, hadn’t originally paid the bonus because of the doping rumours.

    I’d love to see him go to jail, because I read that he or at least some of the people involved in the doping ring on top of lawsuits used threats of physical violence against people trying to tell the truth about Armstrong. He’s practically a gangster, and Ianmck’s description ‘psychopath’ might not be that far from the truth.

    New York Times in their story estimated that Armstrong is worth 125 million dollars, so it seems that crime really does pay. Too bad that after he’s settled all the earlier lawsuits from his fortunes he still will have too much left. And of course he’ll be getting more money from the possible books he’ll be writing, and selling his life’s movie rights etc. Even after revealing the doping himself he still seems to have lot of support from people, so the books and movies and whatever do seem possible.

  14. Dan Cobb says

    To [Einstein} Bill:

    You write:
    The other question is whether the use of performance-enhancing drugs changed the outcome of the races: it may not if everyone is cheating equally.

    Armstrong himself has said he could not have won the Tour de France if he didn’t dope.

    He is a liar of the first order. He is still lying. He is a sociopath…. like everyone else in Texas.

  15. Mike says

    No. I think that there must be something more to this story that is not yet revealed. OK, as many around the globe have earlier guessed that the once revered bicycling hero Lance Armstrong illegally doped. Some have the opinions that he was “just a mediocre cyclist”. He was not. He was excellent by any standards! (Even his competitors have said as much.) The cost of the drugging, transfusions, the sophisticated medical help, etc. for the seven Tour de France bycycle races alone is now estimated at well over a million dollars. The REAL tragedy is that by so doing he undoubtedly has hurt an awful lot of people. They included the many who looked up to him, friends, teammates, his private propaganda machine, the Livestrong cancer organization and the the cyclist who really deserved to win the races. His constant in your face denials in and out of court over so many years may even enter the language as lancearmstrongean when someone lies loudly and constantly about something in the future. Some have questioned why he deems it important to confess now? Far more important, what was his MOTIVE in the first place? Am certain there are several small if contributing reasons however, none of them seem quite monumental enough. As F. Scott Fitzgerald said,”Show me a hero and i’ll write you a tragedy!” He might well have been speaking about Lance and the many people he hurt.

  16. BEAHBEAH says

    The most damning piece of this story isn’t the doping (please, they were all doing it, he didn’t steal a race from anyone), it’s his attacks and attempts at a coverup that show his true character.

    The false lawsuits, the threats, the destruction of people’s reputation are far more unforgivable. He’s still got work to do to atone for that.

  17. mark says

    Its not just Lance Armstrong or cycling. Steroid use (any forms) is out of control in a lot of professional sports. Even high school athletes have been encouraged to dope. Somehow our culture has the idea talent doesn’t take it too far. The competition is so intense that you can’t hope to succeed without it. How many records in how many sports are really brought to you by doping? We’re saying bad bad Lance but its hardly just Lance. A lot of people have weighed in on this issue over the past decade and its still going on. Where does it go from here. Is Lance the poster boy for reformed athletes or just the latest to join the club? Move over Conseco, Palmero, Bonds, Clemens we’ve got Lance Armstrong. Are fans so bored with ordinary human achievement that the bar keeps going higher and higher. If everyone’s doping already on the plateau of doping now what are they going to use to enhance?

  18. Bill says

    @Dan Cobb: Armstrong did not say he could not have won the Tour de France, but rather that he could not have won it 7 times in a row without using drugs or blood transfusions (in fact, he claimed no one could have done that.) Go back and look at the video again: Oprah definitely asked about winning 7 times in a row, and wanted yes or no answers.

    Also from what he said, it appears that he used very little in the way of drugs during the races (he phrased it as “not a lot”) – most of the performance boost at that point was probably due to blood transfusions, which are much harder to detect. He might have made more use of drugs while he was home training.

  19. Bill says

    One other thing to keep in mind: while he claimed that it was not possible for anyone to win 7 times in a row without using drugs, he was not asked if it was possible to win few times (and maybe not in a row). Also, to win without using drugs 7 times in a row means beating people who were using drugs given how widespread the use of those drugs was (and possibly still is). So I suggest being careful about interpreting what he was saying given that is was more or less yes or no answers to questions that should realistically have lengthy answers.

    Also, it is not like there is a record for “fastest time completing the race” as that is not particularly meaningful: they all ride in a tight group called a peleton for most of the race, typically leaving the peleton only at the end of a stage. If you simply took off and tried to go faster than everyone else, you’d quickly tire out due to air resistance, which is reduced in a peleton except for people at the very front of it, and people take turns being at the front. Near the end of a stage, generally a team will try to sprint ahead, with their best rider drafting the others until he gets close enough to sprint to the finish. And that’s just the simple version – it gets more complicated when there are mountain passes to go over, and things work a bit differently if there is a head wind versus a tail wind.

  20. Darren says

    Unfortunately the world of sport now , any sport is becoming a matter of how to best do what you can to win.
    I’m well aware no sport is free of performance enhancing, humans or animals.
    It’s impossible to reach the goals that are expected without it.
    The demands are placed by the sponsors , parents, schools, coaches and on and’s a long line of individuals that demand the best and are willing to look the other way and more often participate to make sure of a win.
    Winning now is not about the glory it’s about the fame and fortune and all that comes with it.

  21. Jerry6 says

    I have never been able to understand why so many people have to hang on to every action and/or statement “Celebrities” make. Athletes have been placed on such high towers that none can do anything just on their basic abilities. They Have to excel, by any means, or the public will abandemm them.

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