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Morrissey: If More Men Were Gay, There Would Be No Wars

Morrissey gets a question about politics from Rookie magazine:

MorrisseyWhat political causes mattered most to you back then, and are they still important to you now?

War, I thought, was the most negative aspect of male heterosexuality. If more men were homosexual, there would be no wars, because homosexual men would never kill other men, whereas heterosexual men love killing other men. They even get medals for it. Women don’t go to war to kill other women. Wars and armies and nuclear weapons are essentially heterosexual hobbies.

The most political gesture you can make is to refuse to eat animals. It was so when I was a teenager, and is still the case now.

Morrissey was mocked on Tuesday night by Jimmy Kimmel after canceling an appearance because Kimmel had booked the cast of Duck Dynasty as well. Duck Dynasty is an A&E show about a Louisiana family that hunts ducks. Morrissey called them “people who, in effect, amount to animal serial killers.”

The WaPo reports:

Tuesday night, Kimmel was sincerely unapologetic for the snafu, telling his audience a young band from Denver called Churchill had very nicely stepped in for Morrissey, whose stance Kimmel said he “respects” – and about as convincingly as Seth MacFarlane saying he respects TV critics.

  “There’s a very good reason why I didn’t dump ‘Duck Dynasty’,” Kimmel explained. “It’s because they have guns and Morrissey doesn’t.”

 And if Morrissey is really serious, he shouldn’t be making TV appearances of any kind, Kimmel continued. For instance, when he appeared on David Letterman’s show recently, “there had to be an Outback Steak House ad in the mix.”

 Morrissey, Kimmel concluded, “keeps finding ways to depress us.”

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  1. Every time Morrissey opens his mouth, I want to eat a double bacon-cheeseburger. Or an 18oz Porterhouse. Or a freshly-boiled lobster. Or a venison tenderloin. Or a half rack of ribs.

    Posted by: Rich F. | Feb 27, 2013 9:41:54 AM


  2. @Rich: Poor thing, he's got such an influence in you!

    Posted by: topher | Feb 27, 2013 9:52:26 AM


  3. Whoa -- that's not the right headline! I know Towleroad. When a comment like this is made, the headline and the lede have to include the words hateful, bigoted, slur, harmful stereotype, etc.

    Oh, wait. This was said by a gay man about straight men? Whatever, then. Totally different rules. But no pathetic hypocrisy here ... somehow.

    Posted by: Oh, the hypocrisy | Feb 27, 2013 9:57:12 AM


  4. Kinda a good point from random troll. This post isn't any different than the AFA posts you do. Idiot says idiotic thing that involves gays.

    There is less malice here as Morrissey is an aging musician.

    Posted by: Fensox | Feb 27, 2013 10:00:28 AM


  5. Oh there would be fashion wars on the catwalk, Sister Smith. Meow.

    Posted by: Bollux | Feb 27, 2013 10:13:06 AM


  6. The Towleroad comment section is often a battleground.

    Posted by: ger | Feb 27, 2013 10:17:26 AM


  7. I believe there is truth in what he says and I commend him for having the courage to say it (about both hetero men liking to kill each other and the duck serial killers). Brilliant and compassionate people show society for what it really is. Love him for bringing truth into the world!

    Posted by: fern | Feb 27, 2013 10:17:58 AM


  8. Fewer wars if more men were gay? He's obviously never watched "Drag Race."

    Posted by: keating | Feb 27, 2013 10:31:47 AM


  9. BS

    There would be just as many wars if more males were gay.

    Now a discussion could be had that if males were a smaller % of the population and females a larger % that there would be fewer wars, but that would be getting into science and not just morrisey's ( a musician) opinion

    Posted by: Moz's | Feb 27, 2013 10:47:28 AM


  10. Is he smoking crack?

    Posted by: ratbastard | Feb 27, 2013 10:52:38 AM


  11. @MOZ'S,

    Agreed. But then the U.S. would be calling Russia on the hotline asking what's the matter, and they'd be saying 'Nothing,why!' And the British would be fretting about why France didn't send any Christmas card this year.

    Posted by: ratbastard | Feb 27, 2013 10:55:07 AM


  12. LOL Ratbastard

    Posted by: Moz's | Feb 27, 2013 10:58:54 AM


  13. Yes--because places gay men frequent are always wonderful, all-accepting bastions of peace, empathy, harmony and inclusion. Gay men abhor conflict and drama--just look at the Towleroad comment section! LOL

    Posted by: Mark | Feb 27, 2013 11:06:07 AM


  14. Antiquity is full of examples of homoerotic warmongers: Alcibiades, Alexander, Hadrian. And an 18th-century example is Frederick the Great.

    Posted by: Kyle | Feb 27, 2013 11:12:24 AM


  15. That weirdo hasn't been interesting or relative since 1991. He and Sinead O'Connor should get married.

    Posted by: ron | Feb 27, 2013 11:17:44 AM


  16. That weirdo hasn't been interesting or relative since 1991. He and Sinead O'Connor should get married.

    Posted by: ron | Feb 27, 2013 11:17:46 AM


  17. I think, though he's clearly dealing in sweeping generalities, there is a small kernel of truth in that feminine structures and relations tend to be more lateral and masculine ones more hierarchical, and that this is reflected in contemporary culture along a gender spectrum with more effeminate males being less likely to attempt to solve problems through violence compared to the more traditionally masculine approach. But, to take that all out of historical and cultural context and state this as an overall "fact"/prediction is obviously wrong as others have noted, and in pragmatic terms a useless one at that.

    Seems to me humanity has gotten as far as it has by balancing laterality/cooperation with hierarchy/competition, and though there's always room for improvements in getting that balance correct in various spheres of life, either extreme on its own is problematic. And though we can abstract these tendencies along gender lines, it's likely counterproductive to do so.

    Posted by: Shelly | Feb 27, 2013 12:40:31 PM


  18. Really? He should spend a few minutes backstage at a drag show sometime.

    Posted by: jomicur | Feb 27, 2013 12:44:49 PM


  19. Keep in mind he's doing a US tour right now and this is definitely getting him in the press. More so than if he'd actually done the show, and honestly expecting Morrissey to do the show with animal hunters on it is delusional.

    Posted by: moike | Feb 27, 2013 12:52:20 PM


  20. Wars are not motivated by some inate desire of men to kill other men. They have more to do with controlling resources (e.g., oil), the interests of people who profit from wars (e.g., weapons developers, companies like Haliburton that provide services to the military), and leaders who find wars a good way to rally public support and power for themselves. Perhaps their outsider status makes gay people somewhat more likely to think critically about the economic and political powers that be, but there are certainly plenty of gay men adn women who get behind war efforts and plenty of heterosexuals who don't.

    Posted by: MichaelJ | Feb 27, 2013 1:05:00 PM


  21. Bull. If I were dictator, the first thing I would do is therapeutically eliminate one billion people from the face of the planet.

    War is the natural state of mankind.

    Posted by: David Hearne | Feb 27, 2013 1:16:58 PM


  22. Michael- that's very simplistic. War is about ideas and identity. The Islamic Jihad is not about acquisition of wealth, in fact it thrives on poverty. The Jihad is about acquiring territory and giving it Islamic names, about acquiring people whether willing or unwilling to bow and scrape to desert gods.

    Posted by: David Hearne | Feb 27, 2013 1:22:56 PM


  23. Thank you, @MichaelJ- very intelligently and thoughtfully stated. As a younger guy, I'm not too familiar with all of Morrisey's work, he's an "ok" artist, but honestly, his personal life and statements make him sound like a complete bore and borderline jerk.

    Posted by: Scott | Feb 27, 2013 1:29:02 PM


  24. It will be interesting to see him explain the Spartans.

    Or (if scurrilous Roman rumors were true) Julius Caesar. In Caesar's case, he denied it, but the actual claim was that he was a bottom, and due to his status, he was expected to be a top. At the time it was very common for political enemies to slander and libel each other, and there were no legal remedies, so one can't take any rumors very seriously.

    Posted by: Bill | Feb 27, 2013 1:57:33 PM


  25. oh please, he's just stating the obvious-straight men are way more violent than gays, that's why the world is as war-ravaged as it is and why the biggest party- poopers are straight guys. Can't believe you guys didn't applaud him for that truth.

    Posted by: nikko | Feb 27, 2013 2:46:17 PM


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