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  1. graphicjack says

    And this asshat said all this at a panel sub-titled: Are You Sick and Tired of Being Called a Racist and You Know You’re Not One?

    But ya are, Blanche, ya are…

  2. redball says

    Let’s not get too self-congratulatory. There’s plenty of (often subtle) racism among progressives as well. We are socialized into a racist society, after all.

    Starting the day, we get constant messaging that white is normative. Why do you think little black boys and girls say the white doll is smarter, harder-working, and more beautiful than the black doll? Even Anderson Cooper did a story on this & it’s on Youtube: “Study shows how children view race bias.”

  3. scott says

    @NotA-
    Netroots is not billed as a way for Democrats to pick leaders, or to pick the next Prez candidate. It’s a progressive conference for sure, but not solely political. CPAC is.

    And this guy is more than a weirdo. I can’t repeat what I told my boyfriend, but I hope he say this at the right place and the right time, and someone will teach him a lesson.

    If I lived in NC, and he was saying those sorts of things at a uni or college around me and within earhsot of my bf, he wouldn’t be saying them anymore.

  4. Houndentenor says

    As someone who has spent his life studying and performing (European) classical music, I guess I am as proud of that culture (although I wouldn’t call it “white” –that seems silly) as anyone. That doesn’t mean that I can’t apply the same critical skills to listening to jazz, the blues, or music from India, China, Bali or West Africa. Actually those skills HELP me appreciate the other forms of music. At the very least I know what questions to ask when confronted with music or theater I don’t fully understand. As someone whose primary performance and research area is opera, I’m also fascinated by other forms of theater and musical/dramatic performance. Most cultures have them and when stripped of the surface detail we find that they are far more alike than they are different. People telling their stories and values to each other. It’s a powerful tradition, not just the European works but all of it. I’m sad for this man who can’t take what he learned from European literature and apply it the literature from the rest of the world. I can love my own Scandinavian heritage without thinking that the rest of the cultures are inferior. I can be proud of my own, without denigrating others. I don’t understand what’s so hard about this. I encourage people to explore their own cultural heritage and then share it with others (sharing meaning learning about others as you teach them about what you know).

  5. ian says

    He is telling the truth about the real republican philosophy. The GOP need only to hint and double-talk about their true racial feelings for someone like him to feel at home in the party. People like him pick up on the covert racism (and often quite overt and blatant) promulgated by the GOP. Party leaders must be having a fit because he revealed the truth so effectively.

  6. J says

    @scott are you this passionate against homophobia? You’re basically saying that you would go out of your way to ensure this man’s first amendment rights were completely taken away if you lived near him because of his racism. There’s homophobic stories reported every single hour on here, many with extreme hate, where’s your outrage there?

  7. Kevin says

    We have to evolve to a place where European/white people can celebrate their roots and culture as well without feeling as though it’s a threat to others. Of course, this man isn’t a healthy example of that. But we can’t say every race, creed and coloring is able to celebrate their culture and being except white people. That will increasingly harbor more irrational outbursts like this. I’m not white either, I’m Asian, but culturally speaking, everyone should be entitled to be proud of who and what they are. That certainly includes Caucasians, as it does others.

  8. NY2.0 says

    As a liberal I always enjoy watching clips of CPAC. The more these fools talk the more the majority of America is turned off. They’re just a bunch of extremists.

  9. Ajai says

    I’m sorry, but when are white people NOT allowed to celebrate their culture? What day is tomorrow? I appreciate all cultures, but this notion that white people are disenfranchised is absurd.

  10. Just a thought says

    we do live in a climate where it seems perfectly acceptable to be discriminatory toward white people in language and it’s cute and funny. I don’t believe it is. Prejudice is prejudice, and anti white remarks and comments are equally bad.

  11. Utope says

    The comments on here often show reverse racism toward caucasian men. Ever notice how some say ‘white trash’ or ‘cracker’ well if a derogatory term against one group is offensive, so is a term against another. I agree with the poster above. Be objective.

  12. David Hearne says

    Over at Democratic Underground you find the strangest sort of person. To be fair, you find this sort of person all over the place. He is the not-racist.

    You see, speaking the truth about race, culture, and relations is racist in these people’s book. But as is typical of these professional not-racists, they lives lives unexamined.

    They talk about “dog whistles”. Well here are some dog whistles for you:

    • “We moved to Outlandia because it’s safe” (in other words, there are very few black people)

    • “We moved to Outlandia because they have good schools.” (In other words, we were too cheap to pay for private schools, too lazy to homeschool, and the schools in Outlandia have very few black people)

    • “We love the diversity here.” (In other words, this place has some well heeled black people, other minorities, and foreigners but is still majority WASP.)

    • “Gentrification is making the neighborhood too expensive and losing some of its character.” (In other words, white people are moving back to a neighborhood they were driven out of 60 years ago.)

    Everyone is a racist. Some are more honest about it than others.

  13. LOL says

    @David Hearne: I can’t agree with that. I’m curious how you came to that conclusion. Your parethetical comments are a sort of perverse interpretation of the quotes ahead of them and are faulty, at best.

  14. Joe says

    The left constantly talks about intolerance, yet you post a video of a man expressing his opinion and can’t be TOLERANT of any other opinion.

    Tolerance goes both ways!

  15. LazerLight says

    Is it just me or is this site getting increasingly worse with troll activity? I keep hearing about former regular posters who don’t poster here anymore because of the toxic homophobic and racist trolling, and more and more I’m starting to see it for myself. It really drains the experience on here when roughly 60% of the comments in every thread are against gay people, or defend homophobes or racists in this case.

    Gonna have to look for a new gay blog to frequent.

  16. CaliDreaminGal says

    Lazerlight,
    Do some research. There’s so many thriving and stellar gay blogs out there that are a magnet for wonderful discussions and wonderful people. Back in 2008/2009, towleroad was truly the only real viable option as far as gay sites are concerned, today, there are hundreds of extremely stimulating and welcoming ones.

    No joke, some days when I enter this site, the comments make me wonder if I’m on a NOM Conservative forum. Blaming gay hate crime victims. Brutal attacks on openly gay public figures. Defending of notorious anti gay public figures. Couple with a general complacency toward gay rights that you don’t find on other gay blogs.

    I love Andy, so I still try to see what he posts on this site, but I have sadly replaced this site with a plethora of other engaging gay blogs out there. Do your research and find one that suits you. You won’t regret it.

  17. David Hearne says

    LazerLight –

    Let’s guess: your definition of a troll is someone who disagrees with you? Right? That only plays on DU, so if you go there be sure to luxuriate in the presence of those with like minds, until you disagree with one of the head biitches that is, then you’ll be banned.

    Standing up for the First Amendment rights of freedom of speech and freedom of association is not trolling, nor is it homophobic. It’s grown up. You may not have experienced this, especially if you are a campus lifer or someone with a degree in basket weaving or gender studies.

  18. David Hearne says

    LOL – I came to those interpretations through experience. If your experience is to the contrary, feel free to make specific references to your experiences and how you think that negates mine. As it stands, you made what you think sounds like a thoughtful response which contains little in the way of substance.

  19. David Hearne says

    CaliDreaminGal –

    “Blaming gay hate crime victims.”

    Example?

    “Brutal attacks on openly gay public figures. ”

    Example?

    “Defending of notorious anti gay public figures. ”

    Defending a constitutional principal or government policy which is supported by an anti-gay politician is not the same thing as being anti-gay. Yes, if I have the choice between a homophobic officer who will enforce immigration laws and respect the First and Second Amendment and some gay or pro-gay politicians who is otherwise a worthless POS in violation of his oath of office, I will support the politician who supports the Constitution every time.

    “Couple with a general complacency toward gay rights that you don’t find on other gay blogs.”

    Priorities is not complacency. If I have to make a choice between a candidate who is for gay marriage but will vote for amnesty and open borders, then I will vote for the candidate who opposes gay marriage but supports the US Constitution, the law, and our border. It suck to have to make such choices, but it’s called being an adult.

    Long term Constitutional principles will support gay rights. There is no need to compromise on the Constitution to get gay rights a year or two sooner. We have waited a long time, a couple of years won’t kill us.

  20. stranded says

    We’re all born ignorant, but most of us grow out of it through education, humility, and some introspection. Growing up and being an adult means taking into account our own individual prejudices. Being a part of a multicultural planet means having a rich cultural heritage for the human race, which is a great gift for anyone who loves to be a part of it. People so focused on navel-gazing reveal disturbing elements in the human psyche, prone to projection and lacking enough self-awareness to ask themselves why it’s always someone else’s fault that they’re so bitter and resentful. These people are bitter babies who can’t take responsibility for their own behavior. Meanwhile they miss the treasures that all the races and cultures have to offer. The more these people are exposed, the better we can see who NOT to emulate.

  21. Moz's says

    @NotA

    1 weirdo?

    Uhm, rand paul won Cpac straw poll with 24-25% of the vote while the most popular Republican governor in the nation over all and is Gov of a Blue state = Christ came in 4th with 7%

    ^ sure seems like a whole heaping ton of whackadoos at CPAC

  22. Ajai says

    Not being able to keep black people as slaves, or enforce segregation, or prevent voting rights does NOT mean you, as a white person, are being discriminated against. Pride is not about keeping others down.

  23. David Hearne says

    AJAI

    “Not being able to keep black people as slaves,”

    Try to stay in the present.

    ” or enforce segregation,”

    There is a difference between enforcing segregation and freedom of association. The government may not force me to associate with someone I don’t want to associate with. The government may not enforce a law which says that I cannot associate with someone I want to associate with. See the difference?

    ” or prevent voting rights”

    No one prevented voting rights in the last election. Rachel Maddow and Lawrence O’DOnnell are unrepentant liars on this subject.

    “NOT mean you, as a white person, are being discriminated against.”

    Telling American students that they can’t wear an American flag to school because it might upset the Mexicans is discrimination.

    Ignoring the fact that blacks make almost every public school in which they are a majority dysfunctional at a minimum and a dangerous hellhole at worst is discrimination.

  24. Joe says

    If you want the cozy and familiar why are you advocating gay marriage? If it happens expect people to get pretty wild. Trolls are anyone who disagrees with you. That’s life. You can’t control everything Mary.

  25. Rick Martin says

    I think 1 person clapped. Everyone else gasped in dismay some laughed nervously. I think you do a disservice to your readers to say ” Several people in the audience cheered and applauded Terry’s outburst.” They didn’t.

  26. tere says

    It’s kind of sad how many comments of tacit support there are here. Reverse racism? smh
    And to the Asian poster who wrote about evolving to a better place that allows white people to celebrate their culture………just truly pathetic.

  27. andrew says

    I don’t like racism and I don’t like affirmative action. They are both ways of judging people by the color of their skin and not the content of their character.

  28. Leonard jones says

    Has this place gotten this bad? People in the comments absolving this man of racism because he can’t celebrate “white culture?” Or justifying segregation through “freedom of association.” God, I guess CPAC’s not the only place brimming with racists.

  29. David Hearne says

    Leonard –

    Once again in even simpler terms:

    Segregation is when the government says that blacks have to ride in the back of the bus and whites in the front.

    Freedom of association is when blacks choose to sit in the back of the bus and whites choose to avoid them.

  30. Ajai says

    David Hearne says, ‘Try to stay in the present.’

    I was, here referring to the article posted above where slavery is an institution being praised IN THE PRESENT.

    Talk to me when a State legislature start banning Caucasian studies, and I might take you seriously. And if you don’t want to share a school with African-Americane, you are the person discriminating, not the people you wish to exclude.

    I can’t believe it is 2013 and I have to explain this. Whatever racist hate group you may be part of will not help you in the long run, nor will your resentments. Start taking pride in who you are, not who you can keep down.

  31. Leonard Jones says

    You have the freedom to associate with who you want. The bigoted boy scouts freely associate with those who are neither gay or atheist. It’s their constitutional right as a PRIVATE group. How the public reacts to that is a separate matter.

    You do not have the right to discriminate in the public sphere. Sorry, that’s in the US Constitution. Segregation is unconstitutional, immoral, and illegal. End of the story. Choose to sit wherever the heck you want to on the bus and I’ll do the same. PLEASE try to stop me.

  32. Leonard Jones says

    This man said:

    Terry said, “why can’t we just have segregation?” noting the Constitution’s protections for freedom of association.

    Maybe you should be breaking down the difference in simpler terms for him. Hmmm?

  33. David Hearne says

    Posted by: Ajai | Mar 17, 2013 10:57:01 AM

    “David Hearne says, ‘Try to stay in the present.’

    I was, here referring to the article posted above where slavery is an institution being praised IN THE PRESENT.”

    Given the conditions of most actual African people, to say that today’s black American is better off for being descended from slaves is less praise of slavery than it is a simple acknowledgement of probability. And that analysis has been put forth by some blacks as well as some whites. Not that it stops people like you from getting your panties in a knot.

    “Talk to me when a State legislature start banning Caucasian studies, and I might take you seriously. ”

    I don’t care if you take me seriously or not. You have already demonstrated a limited capacity for understanding; and that’s not entirely your fault as your IQ is inherited.

    No state has banned the study of people and events who are nonwhite. What they have banned is the BS which passes for education under courses “designed primarily for pupils of one ethnic group” that “advocate ethnic solidarity instead of the treatment of pupils as individuals” or that promote “resentment toward a race or class of people.”

    So now we know that you have little capacity for the truth in addition to limited capacity for understanding.

    “And if you don’t want to share a school with African-Americane, you are the person discriminating, not the people you wish to exclude.”

    If it were as simple as not wanting to attend school with people who look different then you would be correct. In reality, Blacks make schools intolerable when they exceed about 30% of the student body. That is about the concentration point at which the loud, rude, aggressive, and violent feel empowered.

    “I can’t believe it is 2013 and I have to explain this.”

    You haven’t explained anything, you are simply regurgitating that which is false.

    “Whatever racist hate group you may be part of will not help you in the long run, nor will your resentments. Start taking pride in who you are, not who you can keep down.”

    Yawn. When in doubt, call someone a racist. Who cares? I’m telling the truth and you know it. If you don’t know it, then you have lived a severely sheltered life. Google “vietnamese student walk out of philadelphia high school”

  34. David Hearne says

    Leonard Jones –

    “You do not have the right to discriminate in the public sphere. Sorry, that’s in the US Constitution. Segregation is unconstitutional, immoral, and illegal. ”

    The Constitution provides for freedom of association. The Constitution does not prohibit discrimination by an individual or a property or business owner. The Civil Rights Act of 1964 tramples the First Amendment, and is unconstitutional.

  35. David Hearne says

    DC Arnold –

    Don’t be ridiculous. All men were not “created” equal in any sense of the word. The passage refers to being before the law. All men are equal before the law. What is with you people and not being able to tell the difference between the government and private individuals?

  36. David Hearne says

    Have you pathetic knee-jerk liberals have no understanding of the threat black men pose to us white people in America?

    My father choked to death on the large penis of a black man and my fellow commenter ratbastard lost his father due to a perforated anus from bottoming for too many black men.

    Oh, sorry, you PC liberals. “African American” men.

    The worst thing about the Civil Rights Movement is that it helped start the decline of racial bigotry, and without racial bigotry my father went out and sucked a big black penis and is now DEAD.

  37. David Hearne says

    Clearly some miserable liberal troll is posting under my name in an attempt to slander my wonderful father. My father most certainly did NOT choke to death on a black penis. He choked on the overwhelming amount of male ejaculate that flooded his throat. There’s a difference.

  38. Isaac says

    I’d argue one definition of trolling is to completely monopolize the conversation, ie the last seven posts in a row by David Hearne.

    The guy from CPAC is obviously a racist, and many in that room recognized that. And when state legislatures try to outlaw Germanic Studies, French Studies, Western (aka European) civilization, British Literature, St Patty’s Day, and a whole slew of other institutions in our culture that promote and celebrate white culture, get back to me on the suppression of the white “race.”

  39. millerbeach says

    Terry, Terry, Terry! You have your wish! We still have plenty of segregation in this nation! Right now! You are sooooo in luck! Come with me to Chicago, where all the murders happen in the “shady” part of town, where all those “Canadians” live. Only a hop, skip and a jump to Gary, Indiana! Certainly you have heard of Gary, murder capitol of the world, several years running. Why, gosh yes, they are filled to the brim with colored people…that’s what you still call ’em, right? See folks, it’s circus acts such as “Terry” which will ensure victory to the Dems in 2016. Start planning now, don’t wait for the rush..LOL Actually, Terry, on behalf of Democrats who handed you your ass during the last election, thanks again for assuring us of another victory…we really could not have done it without you! Oh, one final request: could you possibly do MORE public speaking between now and the 2016 election? Thanks!

  40. millerbeach says

    Oh, I forgot this gem: “He choked on the overwhelming amount of male ejaculate that flooded his throat.” This is impossible. I can prove it. I have the documentation, and am living proof, that no amount of swallowed sperm can cause death. If anything, it makes me feel even more manly…LOL

  41. Derrick from Philly says

    To whom ever parodied David Herne in this discussion: THANK YOU. That silly old queen is NEVER to be taken seriously.

    Silly old queen…LOL.

  42. Emily says

    This makes me so sad. Yes, we are fortunate enough to have the 1st Amendment that protects speech, including the comments of the ignorant and bigoted, but why in 2013 are we still having this kind of speech?!?!

    If I were that woman, I’m afraid I might have slapped him.

  43. TheRangedMartialArtist says

    Everybody says there is this RACE problem. Everybody says this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY White country and ONLY into White countries.

    The Netherlands and Belgium are just as crowded as Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.

    Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY White country and ONLY White countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-Whites.

    What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-Blacks were brought into EVERY Black country and ONLY into Black countries?

    How long would it take anyone to realize I’m not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?

    And how long would it take any sane Black man to notice this and what kind of psycho Black man wouldn’t object to this?

    But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the White race, Liberals and respectable conservatives agree that I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.

    They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-White.

    Anti-racist is a code word for anti-White.

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