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France's Top Catholic Bishop Says Gay Marriage Will Cause Violence

Cardinal Andre Wingt-Trois, France's top Catholic bishop told a meeting of French bishops that the government risked inciting more violence by "rushing" a marriage equality law through the legislature, Reuters reports:

Vingt-troisVingt-Trois, the archbishop of Paris, said the difference between the sexes was a basic human trait and denying it by legalizing marriage and adoption for homosexuals would weaken society's ability to manage its differences peacefully.

"This is the way a violent society develops," he told the spring meeting of the French bishops' conference. "Society has lost its capacity of integration and especially its ability to blend differences in a common project." ...

...Vingt-Trois accused the government of rushing the law through parliament without sufficient public debate.

"Forcing it through can simplify things for a while," he said. "To avoid paralyzing political life when there are grave economic and social decisions to take, it would have been more reasonable and simple to not have started this process."

Anti-gay marriage protest have erupted in violence in recent weeks over the proposed law.

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  1. First, the bishop is on to something about his dire warning of violence. He only need look at the Papist loons and homophobes to understand this is true.

    Second, so what?

    Third, why is violence only a problem in France? Why hasn't it become a huge problem in other countries where SSM has been approved??

    Fourth, so what?

    Posted by: HadenoughBS | Apr 16, 2013 9:41:31 AM


  2. Well what does the Bishop expect will happen when he and his fellow misleaders incite hatred all day and night in their zombified flock?

    Posted by: Michael Heynz | Apr 16, 2013 9:42:34 AM


  3. Not much different from the WBC, another wing nut that cut from the same clothe

    Posted by: bambinoitaliano | Apr 16, 2013 9:45:31 AM


  4. Passive aggressive much?

    Posted by: Gus | Apr 16, 2013 9:45:38 AM


  5. Thank you, eminent one: You provide vivid proof that wearing a little red beanie causes severe and permanent brain damage.

    Posted by: Onnyjay | Apr 16, 2013 9:47:31 AM


  6. A religion committed to defending pedophile rape is the embodiment of a violent society.

    Posted by: David Ehrenstein | Apr 16, 2013 9:47:37 AM


  7. "Those against marriage equality are violent bigots, unable to control themselves in the streets. I think it would be best if we stall all forward movement until they have been pacified with... umm... prayer? Don't we usually use the threat of God to galvanize the uneducated masses?"

    Posted by: CAM | Apr 16, 2013 9:48:06 AM


  8. Maybe Vingt-Quatre will have something more intelligent to say.

    Posted by: Demian | Apr 16, 2013 9:49:04 AM


  9. That amounts to a direct threat to every gay person in France. Absolutely shameful but not surprising considering the Catholic Church's long history of murder and mayhem.

    Posted by: Tyler | Apr 16, 2013 9:49:20 AM


  10. No, he's threatening violence. Given that the priesthood has long been a repository for gay Catholics, they don't want openly gay people to have options. That might threaten the sad and stunted lives they've chosen for themselves.

    Posted by: Caliban | Apr 16, 2013 9:52:21 AM


  11. The best reading that you could give is that these guys are totally naive about all aspects of the human condition.

    Posted by: Mike W | Apr 16, 2013 9:52:36 AM


  12. I quote a statement written by Joseph Ratzinger (later Benedict XVI) in a document approved for publication in 1986 by John Paul II:
    "...when civil legislation is introduced to protect behavior to which no one has any conceivable right, neither the Church nor society at large should be surprised when other distorted notions and practices gain ground, and irrational and violent actions increase."

    This was a major reason why I left the Roman Catholic Church shortly thereafter. I could not stomach a church whose top leaders were so ignorant, so bigoted, so bereft of understanding. In this document, John Paul II and his minion Joseph Ratzinger declared that a sexual relationship could not be loving. They indicated their inability to understand the love of lesbian and gay couples, but they bizarrely indicated they did understand antigay violence.

    Thus they washed their hands of any connection to the violence that their words and actions precipitate. This bishop is as ignorant and bigoted as Ratzinger and John Paul II. To them, they are the innocents, we are the perpetrators. In the words of the Jesus whose example they have eschewed - they are "hypocrites," and "whitewashed sepulchers."

    Posted by: john patrick | Apr 16, 2013 9:55:41 AM


  13. He's right - just look at all the straight people being viciously assaulted by homosexuals!

    Whoops! Turns out he's got that sh*t backwards. Of course, if he really knew the difference between fact and fiction, he wouldn't be a Catholic Bishop in the first place.

    Posted by: Firestorm | Apr 16, 2013 9:58:15 AM


  14. Why isn't he speaking to the people that inflict the violence? Why is he not calling for calm?

    Such baloney; as though extending freedoms to another somehow affects the lives of strangers.

    Gimme a break.

    Posted by: Pete N SFO | Apr 16, 2013 9:58:42 AM


  15. Well look who's inciting violence himself!

    Posted by: Gast | Apr 16, 2013 10:05:26 AM


  16. They've been debating this non-stop for 6 months now.

    When he says there's been inadequate debate, he just means he's not getting his way.

    And if he and his right-wing buds hadn't started stirring up violence, they wouldn't have had to move up the final vote.

    Posted by: candide001 | Apr 16, 2013 10:05:49 AM


  17. Papist Swine!

    Posted by: Dearcomrade | Apr 16, 2013 10:09:49 AM


  18. VIOLENCE???

    Perhaps the good father will get smacked upside the head by a 6' drag queen carrying an exceptionally large Prada pump

    Posted by: jtramon | Apr 16, 2013 10:10:05 AM


  19. Vingt-trois is probably his IQ score.

    Posted by: Jack M | Apr 16, 2013 10:10:45 AM


  20. My friend Dennis Cooper, who has lived in France for close to a decade now, says that despite isolated incidents of anti-gay violence things aren't as tumultuous as the U.S. media would have you believe. The church has lost UTTERLY and they know it.

    Posted by: David Ehrenstein | Apr 16, 2013 10:10:46 AM


  21. The cardinal is clearly short on logic. Integrating LGBTs in the mainstream somehow prevents social integration. Huh?

    Posted by: Rodney Proctor (@rpwpb) | Apr 16, 2013 10:14:28 AM


  22. I suspect he's just another gay, closeted man who's taking it out on those who live openly.

    Posted by: Caliban | Apr 16, 2013 10:15:27 AM


  23. The debate has been going on since last fall. Hardly "rushing" it slow-poke. These people are filled with so much negativity. Instead of looking for a way it can work they only look at every way they wish it couldn't work. When something like this is proclaimed to be all bad, that position is suspect.

    Posted by: Tim | Apr 16, 2013 10:18:36 AM


  24. Another thing...this isn't the first time...same-sex marriage is already occurring in other countries and it's been a non-issue. Therefore, future debate in countries considering it should go quickly. Every time doesn't have to be the first time on this subject any longer.

    Posted by: Tim | Apr 16, 2013 10:21:32 AM


  25. He's basically giving people permission.

    Posted by: homer | Apr 16, 2013 10:33:05 AM


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