1. anon says

    The BSA is a classic case of putting lipstick on a pig. The immature jerky teenage boys and the arrested development leaders get to parade around and tell everyone how wonderful they are.

  2. Larry McD says

    What the hell is wrong with you people?

    Zach Walls is NOT openly gay. He’s a guy with two mothers and has never answered a question about his own sexuality.

    Christ! You’re supposed to be a reliable source and this is a massive fail.

  3. Brendan says

    Quoting Zach (from Wikipedia): “To be clear, I don’t consider myself an ally. I might be [a] straight cisgender man, but in my mind, I am a member of the LGBT community. I know the last thing that anyone wants is to add another letter to the acronym, but we need to make sure as a movement we’re making a place for what we call “queer-spawn” to function and to be part of the community. Because even though I’m not gay, I do know what its like to be hated for who I am. And I do know what its like to be in the closet, and like every other member of the LGBT community, I did not have a choice in this. I was born into this movement.”

  4. Caliban says

    There’s something I don’t like about this Lawrence O’Donnell piece and the coverage in general. It isn’t and NEVER WAS about openly gay boys JOINING the Boy Scouts! If they want to join, fine, but they/we were ALWAYS there! It’s about NOT kicking gay kids OUT of the organization, not “letting us in!”

    That distinction really does matter when you’re talking about the issue. Just a few months ago there was a widely reported story about a young man who was denied his Eagle Scout pin just because he’s gay. He didn’t want to JOIN the Scouts, he WAS a Scout and had been since elementary school! He just wanted to be treated fairly, not be denied that award just because he’s gay. There is a world of difference there. Yes there are some real problems with this policy change, but the real issue has ALWAYS been that Scouts who, as they grow up find out that they are gay, be allowed to remain Boy Scouts. They didn’t change, only their awareness of themselves did.

    Look, I was a member of the Boy Scouts when I was younger. I didn’t stick with it because I felt I was way too “hip” for that, that the BSA was regressive and too “Norman Rockwell” for me. But that’s me. IF a Scout member discovers that he’s gay and WANTS to stay with the organization he should be able to. That’s all this was ever about.

  5. Clay says

    I agree enthusiastically with other comments. I’d really like to see bright, charismatic young leaders like Zach Wahls, Hudson Taylor, and others in Congress, legislatures, etc some day soon.

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