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Map Shows State of Human Rights for LGBT People in Europe: PHOTO

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ILGA Europe has released an updated map showing the state of human rights for LGBT people in Europe in May 2013. Click to enlarge. The scale goes from dark green (full equality, respect of human rights) to dark red (gross violations of human rights, discrimination).

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  1. Errr... how is the UK higher than the Nordic countries? We don't have marriage equality (just civil partnerships) and they do. We both have all other LGBT employment rights/access to services/hate crime legislation and and trans rights (e.g. changing birth certificate/state funding for SRS) but they pip us on that one point.

    That's not to mention that it's a much more tolerant society than in the UK where the minds of people are similar to the US in that there are still a lot of racist/religious/homophobic/anti-immigration dickheads out there. The British are just more quiet about it than the US nutjob versions.

    Posted by: Jack Ford | May 17, 2013 9:36:06 AM


  2. This from a cursory look appears somewhat dubious. That said the UK is far and away the top dog @ 77%! The country arguably most Eurosceptic and with the most xenophobic views of Europe scored the highest! Seeing as ILGA Europe brags that it operates within the 'European framework', that's amusing. What other agenda[s] does ILGA have aside from 'queer', LGBT, or whatever the name of the day is?

    Posted by: ratbastard | May 17, 2013 9:47:39 AM


  3. Review that map closely and take note of those countries who discriminate against gay people - and make sure any and all monies you would have spent buying their products or visiting their lands is spent elsewhere, most notably in countries where gay people are not discriminated against. Money talks.

    Posted by: Mike Ryan | May 17, 2013 9:51:05 AM


  4. I was surpised that Italy was a light shade of red. Really.

    Posted by: Tom | May 17, 2013 10:03:24 AM


  5. @Ratbastard - Although I just said that the people in the UK aren't as tolerant as some of the Nordic countries, we are BY FAR not the worst. I lived in England have travelled all over Europe and the could not believe the things people would say about immigrants/gays/blacks. The anti-immigration sentiment is being whipped up in all of northern/western Europe because no-one has any money and no-one wants to share (not me).

    The UK is not perfect by a long shot but we're a pretty progressive society in comparison to most of the world and what's is more important is that no matter what anyone might think, every minority has almost every type of legal protection here. People might want to discriminate, but they can't, which is more than I can say for other countries.

    Posted by: Jack Ford | May 17, 2013 10:10:14 AM


  6. You can see the categories they used to come up with their scoring system here: http://www.ilga-europe.org/home/publications/reports_and_other_materials/rainbow_europe

    It looks like the reason the UK surpassed many other otherwise similarly situated countries is because ILGA gives quite heavy weighting to legal protections associated with gender identity (over half of the "legal protections" category is geared towards gender identity vs. sexual orientation). Not that this is necessarily wrong, but like any other ranking system the underlying scores are what cause the results to fall out in a particular way.

    Posted by: Austin | May 17, 2013 10:12:51 AM


  7. @Jack Ford:

    I AGREE WITH YOU! My point was I think it's ironic the UK is head and shoulders above continental western Europe in this regard, considering how much the hardcore Euro countries love to brag.

    Posted by: ratbastard | May 17, 2013 10:15:22 AM


  8. @Austin,

    Obviously ILGA's agenda[s] go deeper than just standard, vanilla variety gay rights. Or gay rights issues, period.

    Posted by: ratbastard | May 17, 2013 10:17:16 AM


  9. I think the survey relies on legislative developments. It would appear that the U.K. is further ahead in terms of LGB and T legislation, which is ironic because the legacy of anti-gay legislation in British Dominions and colonies continues to damage the lives of so many around the world.

    The survey doesn't take into account attitudes towards LGBT people, only legislation (including blood donation).

    Posted by: J. | May 17, 2013 10:21:03 AM


  10. I guess I'm one of those people that slags their country off one minute then defends them the next.

    But looking at the data, I'm surprised that countries that I thought had more legal protections don't.

    Posted by: Jack Ford | May 17, 2013 10:23:09 AM


  11. Mike Ryan - Good luck with that; especially as you fill up your gas tank with Islamic or Russian oil distillate.

    Posted by: David Hearne | May 17, 2013 10:24:06 AM


  12. Isn't the ILGA the organization that allowed NAMBLA to be affiliated with it for a long time? God only knows what their criteria for this map is.

    Posted by: David Hearne | May 17, 2013 10:27:21 AM


  13. I've changed my mind completely and now I'm proud to be British (for at least 5 minutes lol). Our bigots might be out there but the majority do what us Brits do best and keep it to ourselves and if we are the highest rated in Europe I'm starting to wonder where on Earth could have a better rating? NZ maybe?

    Posted by: Jack Ford | May 17, 2013 10:28:33 AM


  14. The idea that Northern Ireland should be considered as progressive as the rest of the U.K. is a joke. Just last month the Unionists voted down a bill legislating for marriage equality and Scotland is a separate jurisdiction too.

    Posted by: J. | May 17, 2013 10:29:51 AM


  15. @J,

    You're right. What they are referring to as the whole UK really only applies to England/Wales, which handles many issues administratively separate from Scotland and N.I.

    Posted by: ratbastard | May 17, 2013 10:39:54 AM


  16. I think Scotland has the same anti discrimination as England/Wales but the government had to make exceptions for NI in terms of adoption and hate speech because religion is big over there. We should just let Ireland have them back.

    Posted by: Jack Ford | May 17, 2013 10:48:15 AM


  17. Looking at the categories that are used for the ranking (pointed out by Austin), at the federal level, I think the U.S. would be ranked somewhere between Belarus and Georgia.
    Some localities within the U.S. might score at or above the U.K., but many would score quite poorly indeed.

    Posted by: cidr | May 17, 2013 11:07:44 AM


  18. Croatia is above Finland? You must be joking me... This map is sh*t.

    Posted by: TheSeer | May 17, 2013 11:25:26 AM


  19. "That's not to mention that it's a much more tolerant society"

    I don't know how much direct experience you have had of Scandinavian men, but my experience has been that they are really no less homophobic than American or British men, at least when it comes to openness to experimentation and/or reacting "smoothly" when hit upon.

    The idea that they are unusually tolerant is basically a myth.

    Beyond that point, looking at the map does offer some surprises. One would think that Holland, the first country to legalize same-sex marriage, would rate more highly....and you might expect the same from Germany, given its affluent, highly educated population. Ditto for Switzerland

    As for Italy, well, I guess Italians are just Italians, aren't they? LOL. Pretty embarrassing, though, for a Western country to have such backwards attitudes, even compared to other Mediterranean countries.

    Posted by: Rick | May 17, 2013 11:44:26 AM


  20. @Rick

    My experience of Swedish and Danish men is that they are very tolerant. Being gay there is just a non-issue, like having blue eyes. Maybe the straight men you're referring to didn't like you hitting on them. Why were you doing that again?

    The reason why "straight" men "experiment" is that they're not straight at all. It probably doesn't happen so much in Scandinavia because the guys who like being with guys or have been with guys freely admit it. The one's who say they're straight mean it. How would you feel if one of those women folk you hate so much came on to you and wouldn't take "no thanks, I like dudes" for an answer. I bet you wouldn't "tolerate" that.

    Posted by: Jack Ford | May 17, 2013 12:40:45 PM


  21. The idea that Scandinavians are uber tolerant IS a myth. Scandinavia up until fairly recently was a pretty cut off and isolated place, and they developed a very homogeneous culture, based on collectivism and community over individual, probably due to the harshness of their environment and small population. Add to this mix Calvinist Protestantism and it all dovetailed nicely into democratic socialism 'progressives' the world over know and orgasim over, post WW2. It took the destruction and chaos of WW2 and it's aftermath to bring it to fruition. Over a generation or two pretty much all Europeans became hooked on it, and often there were no legal alternatives. Swedish people are VERY reserved, and culturally don't question authority, why things are done a certain way and not another, they go along to get along. In many ways they are a white European version of some Asian societies.

    There's PLENTY of antigay attitudes and homophobia in Scandinavia, as there is plenty of genuine xenophobia, bigotry and genuine racism. They just do a fine job of not discussing it and laying out in the open ad nauseum 24/7 like we in America do, for example.

    Posted by: ratbastard | May 17, 2013 2:30:47 PM


  22. I should add Swedish people are also VERY nationalistic and firmly believe Sweden is perfect. Most literally don't comprehend why some non-Swedes question how they do things. They are some of the most incredibly brainwashed people on the planet.

    Posted by: ratbastard | May 17, 2013 2:34:15 PM


  23. Interesting that they went out of their way to include Monaco, Andorra, and San Marino.

    But where's the Vatican?

    Posted by: Randy | May 17, 2013 3:33:17 PM


  24. Detailed information is readily available at:
    http://www.ilga-europe.org/media_library/ilga_europe/publications/reports_and_other_publications/rainbow_map_2013/index

    For example, they say the UK does excellently in freedom of association, assembly, and expression, but less well in protection from hate speech and hate crimes, because those laws only apply in some areas.

    Before dissing the survey, look at this data and explain where they went wrong.

    Posted by: Randy | May 17, 2013 4:36:29 PM


  25. Yeah this map seems a bit off, the Czech Republic is renown for it's positive attitudes towards the LGBT community since it was the one Warsaw Bloc country to really take communist style, militant atheism to heart and has since stayed very secular and liberal. Also Ireland (Despite being a majority Catholic country) has LGBT equality support in over 3/4 of the population across the board on various issues (Marriage, adoption etc.). I think this map focuses too much on policy which makes the U.K. seem like the most liberal state in Europe while portraying the obviously more open minded countries as intolerant backwaters.

    Posted by: Ryan | May 17, 2013 6:12:27 PM


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