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  1. Andre says

    Typical Towleroad.

    First of all, I’m not a Steve King fan. I’m a fan of objective reporting.

    He did NOT say immigrants were dogs. He was making an analogy and relating it to what our immigration policy should be – one where we accept people who can make a meaningful contribution. Scientists, engineers, doctors, inventors, etc. People who have specialties that the US lacks. This, as opposed to letting in millions of people with little to no formal skills whatsoever.

    And let’s be realistic. For ever 100 immigrants that comes from South America, 99 of them are going to be doing manual or unskilled labor, thus not following the type of immigration policy that he and many advocate.

    Now go ahead – everyone cry “racist!”

    If you’re of the mindset that the USA, UK, Canada, France etc have a “DUTY” and an OBLIGATION to open their doors to EVERYONE, then sure, I’m sure you’ll queen out and get hysterical.

    But for intelligent people who approach this issue with reason, you’ll understand why Steve King really isn’t that crazy.

  2. Derrick from Philly says

    Andre,

    you have a very exotic sounding name. Are you descended from recent immigrants or are you descended from old Louisiana?

    Maybe you should change your name to something more WASPY….like George Alexander Louis Windsor. Now, that sounds non-immigrant.

  3. Martin says

    Andre, most immigrants come from Mexico, which is in North America, or El Salvador, which is Central America. I don’t think “racist” is as appropriate as ignorant or plain stupid…

  4. Ken says

    Andre’s lack of geography knowledge notwithstanding, the trumped up charge that the gentle Member was comparing immigrants to dogs was miserable reporting, at best. Progressives should be able to win without resorting to such tactics.

  5. Andre says

    I couldn’t have predicted the comments any better.

    Derrick is the buggest racist of all, so whatever to his comments.

    Notice that no one said anything of substance – only nitpicking at geographical technicalities that don’t matter.

  6. me says

    I would like to know the actual ratio of illegal immigrant valedictorians to illegal immigrant drug runners. I would wager it’s much lower than 1:100.

  7. JONES says

    ’99 of the are going to be doing unskilled labor’

    Yes, which they already do.
    They work with what they have. But then their children will go to school and become the next generation of skilled laborers, perhaps the heart doctor that saves your life or a research scientist or engineer.

    Every generation of immigrants has done that. Yours included.
    BTW, where did your family immigrate from, Andre? And what work did they do?

    Mine came from Ireland and were coal miners. Black Irish we were called. My oldest sister is a surgeon. One brother is a home builder, another is a Lt Colonel in DC. Should my family not have been allowed to immigrate because my father couldn’t read or write and was unskilled labor?

    Wonder where King’s family immigrated from?

  8. Rowan says

    Andre, unless you are native american-aren’t you an immigrant?

    And for every immigrant that does unkilled manual labour, since you are so smart, can you tell us the ratio of how many ‘real’ Americans actually want to do this work??

    I see a of lazy Americans doing NOTHING. I also see a lot of wealthy Americans stealing from their coperations all the time.

    So enlighten us.

    Supply and demand doufus. If there was no work HERE, then DUH they would go elsewhere.

    If YOUR country did not MEDDLE in THEIR affairs, then they would know NOTHING of the ‘land of hope and freedom’.

    If your wealthy white Americans did not love to pay next to nothing for manual labors, then they should STOP employing these illegal immigrants!

  9. quit being stupid says

    well, asswipe King DID say that most of the immigrant children are drug mules, so there’s that. Also: conservatrolls on towleroad: you’re really in the wrong place. Go back to sucking off GOPuke.

  10. JimmyCap says

    Andre, I think the song goes:

    Give me your tired, your poor,
    Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free;
    The wretched refuse of your teeming shore,
    Send these, the homeless,
    Tempest-tossed to me

    No where in there do I see anything relating to accepting only those people with the skills that we need.

    I don’t think you are racist, I think you’re ignorant. In my book, it’s far more dangerous.

  11. JShep says

    “Compared immigrants to dogs”?
    Really??? C’mon… Not even close.
    Unless you also believed that Barack Obama called Sarah Palin a pig when he used the “lipstick on a pig” phrase…
    There are plenty of things to call out Steve King for in his speech, but saying that he “compared immigrants to dogs” is a spurious claim.

  12. AD2013 says

    People are comparing immigrants of today to the ones of the 19th and early 20th century.

    It’s not really a fair comparison. Older groups from the past came here legally, assimilated and learned English. They worked, or they starved. Literally.

    Today? No need for English. There’s Telemundo and 50 other Spanish-speaking channels. Everything is “Opima Dos para Espanol.” There are extensive social welfare problems. Having 9 kids with no health insurance? No problem. The taxpayers can handle that.

    It’s comparing apples vs. oranges.

  13. e.c. says

    You’re right AD2013, 19th and 20th century immigration was different. You got off the boat and someone wrote your name in a ledger (often with a simplified spelling) and poof! you were a citizen. Not like the bureaucratic multi-year process we have now.

    And your claim that they all “assimilated and learned English” is pure fantasy. Why do you think any major city has ethnic neighborhoods where the older residents still often speak in their native languages.

  14. JONES says

    Ricky Martin never does this so King’s comments must have touched him deeply.

    Facing down bigots is not for everyone, Ricky. Your voice is welcomed but not if it comes with a cost that you can’t bear.

    You, your husband and you adorable sons are an inspiration to a lot of young gay men.

  15. andrew says

    @Andre: You posted some comments that the intolerant orthodox types who think that they own Towleroad, disagree with, for that you must be punished. Differences of opinions are never to be allowed. On this site you always risk being labeled a troll at best or a self loathing homosexual at worst if you dare to stray from the current orthodoxy.

  16. Carlie says

    What is an analogy? In Logic, it is defined as a form of reasoning in which one thing is inferred to be similar to another thing in a certain respect, on the basis of the known similarity between the things in other respects.

    On what basis is there a known similarity between people from Mexico and canines? On the basis of racism (well, white supremacy to be exact).

  17. Carlie says

    Ah, the “legal” white immigration lie. In the 19th and 20th century, “legal” meant white–nothing more, nothing less. If you were white, then you could gain entry.

    Federal law: 1790 Naturalization Act (free whites only); 1868 Fourteenth Amendment (all children born in US citizens at birth); 1870 naturalization law allow African-Americans the right to become naturalized citizens; 1882 Chinese Exclusion Act; 1921 Emergency Immigration Act (white only race quotas); 1924 Immigration Act (white only race quotas, proportional to current population); and, 1952 Immigration and Nationality Act (end white race-based quotas, replaced with nationality-based quotas).

    We lie, all the time, without even knowing it.

  18. says

    Steve King has a long history of crazy on gay rights and immigration, so to call him that is hardly a stretch.

    And, speaking of facts and objectivity, his statement that most of the immigrants brought to the country as children are drug runners is ludicrously untrue, i.e. crazy.

    Talks like a nut …

  19. shawnthesheep says

    Sorry Andre,

    King really is that crazy. And you’re ignorance of geography is important because it’s representative of your ignorance of undocumented immigrants in general. Pulling a number out of your ass and saying there are 100 drug running illegals for everyone one valedictorian is as racist as it is idiotic. King has no facts to back up what he is saying. Only racist conjecture. His comments were so extreme that they have even been criticized by other racist Republicans.

    Implying that the majority of undocumented immigrants are drug smugglers is ridiculous and completely unsupported by any facts.

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