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Pope Francis 'Shocked' By Gay Adoption

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Time's Person of the Year has been lauded by many for what they interpret to be his more progressive approach to sexuality. However, according to The Telegraph, Pope Francis I openly encouraged Bishop Charles Scicluna of Malta (pictured below) to condemn adoption of children by same-sex couples in his Christmas sermon once the Bishop shared his concern with His Holiness:

MaltaBishop Scicluna met Pope Francis on December 12. The bishop later told the Times of Malta: “We discussed many aspects… and when I raised the issue that’s worrying me as a bishop [the right for gay couples to adopt] he encouraged me to speak out."

Indeed, the Pope was "shocked" to learn that Malta's proposed Civil Union bill allows gay adoption. And Bishop's Scicluna's controversial sermon seems to have been delivered at his prompting.

None of this should be surprising: back in Argentina, Cardinal Bergoglio roundly condemned gay adoption and said that gay marriage was diabolically inspired. But confusingly – and I still can't quite figure this out in my head – he did clearly back civil partnerships as the lesser of two evils. (When Archbishop Vincent Nichols appeared to do that, his critics in the Vatican were furious.)

Journalist James Bloodworth, in a new op-ed originally published on NewStatesman.com, remains doubtful that Francis is as liberal and progressive as some would like to believe and argues little has changed in terms of doctrine since Francis took the keys to the Holy See from Pope Benedict:

Pope Benedict was a PR disaster for the church. Yet under Francis little of substance has actually changed. The Catholic Church continues to vehemently discriminate against gay people and women, it’s simply sugar-coated its message with fashionable sound bites about inequality. And depressingly this has worked. Many otherwise erstwhile progressives have fallen into line faster than Danny Alexander at a cabinet meeting.

 We should, however, reject the notion that someone who can rescind the Church’s stance on gay sex, and chooses not to do so, is a figure worthy of admiration. Nor, if he won’t countenance women priests, is there a reason to suppose the Pope has anything of note to say about poverty. Why waste precious time worrying about anything such a person thinks?

Aside from the fact that we still hold religious figures to a lower standard than secular ones, the fawning over Pope Francis demonstrates something profoundly depressing: in the struggle for a better world, women’s and LGBT rights are still not taken seriously.  

You'll recall that earlier this year, Francis excommunicated an Australian priest who was a vocal advocate of ordination for women and gay marriage. However, as Time points out, the Priest in question was "already tagged for removal before Francis took office in March."

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  1. Yes, the church doesn't like the competition. Fewer babies to sell and fund the nunneries. See "Philomena" for details.

    Posted by: Joseph | Dec 29, 2013 2:30:12 PM


  2. The entire Catholic hierarchy is pure evil. Don't be fooled by some PR stunts. I don't even want these people's acceptance.

    Posted by: danswon | Dec 29, 2013 2:31:45 PM


  3. So much for the undeserved plaudits and ululation this current Pope has been garnering. The guy's a sham, a fake and he is as reactionary as any of the previous two pontiffs except that this current papal wolf wears his sheep's clothing very well.

    Posted by: jamal49 | Dec 29, 2013 2:31:51 PM


  4. Should I be surprised?

    Posted by: Matt27 | Dec 29, 2013 2:37:26 PM


  5. @Danswon: Word.

    Posted by: topher | Dec 29, 2013 2:39:10 PM


  6. I'm not surprised to see these types of conflicting reactions. God works in mysterious ways and the transformation of the Church won't come in day or with one Pope. They probably need the most time to come to terms with okaying homosexuality and working out their differences. The world has moved on and now the Church has to catch up.

    Posted by: Jay | Dec 29, 2013 2:40:59 PM


  7. Who on Earth could be "shocked" by this?

    The Catholic Crime Cartel is an institution of evil. That's the premise under which it was founded and that's what it's been ever since. It was a means to ruling the world once and, ever since they lost near-complete control of the world, they have had every intention of getting that power back again.

    This co-pope (don't forget the Nazi still isn't dead yet) is a sugar-coating on the evil. Anyone who falls for it is a fool. Co-pope is as evil as his still-living Nazi co-pope and every other member of the cartel's rulers from the very beginning of its awful origin.

    Posted by: oncemorewithfeeling | Dec 29, 2013 2:41:29 PM


  8. You can be certain that Francis agrees with Benedict and the Popes before them on all Catholic Doctrine/Dogma. The differences are in personality, style and tone. This should be obvious to anyone who understands the workings of the Catholic Church, it's hierarchy and it's teachings.

    Posted by: andrew | Dec 29, 2013 2:41:35 PM


  9. Hm. Wonder if The Advocate still thinks he's their "Man of Year" ...

    Posted by: michaelr | Dec 29, 2013 2:43:43 PM


  10. Yeah, tell me again why "The Advocate" named the Pope their person of the year when all he has done is say the church needs to quiet down about their disapproval and the sinfulness of the gays?

    Posted by: anon | Dec 29, 2013 2:50:01 PM


  11. Not at all surprising -Herr Ratzinger and this current ruler of the Holy See are always on point with their imaginary cult teachings.
    Not surprising that America and other countries were so easily fooled by Frank and his lies...... people want to believe what they want to believe- no other explanation for it....

    Posted by: Nick | Dec 29, 2013 2:53:19 PM


  12. This is a good thing. Bishop of Malta saying publicly that Francis agrees with blocking gay adoption, now that puts Francis on the hot seat. Whether it's internal Church politics at play or not the Bishop has done us a favor.

    Now we've got ammunition to go to Francis with the Bishop's claim and demand a reply. Does he or not? Get the answer and then we'll know and move forward.

    My personal opinion is that the Advocate should never have 'chosen' Francis as LGBT Man of the Year. If anything I would like to know what process the Advocate used when they chose Francis. Not that they have to, but they didn't ask my opinion. Did anyone gets asked?

    Posted by: SERIOUSLY | Dec 29, 2013 3:01:03 PM


  13. This Pope may very well turn out to be even more ruthless than his immediate predecessor. At least with Benedict we knew what was coming and he was very vocal about his intentions.

    Francis however, has more guile and knows PR in the modern world. He's already been named person of the year and it hasn't even been a year since his ascension, not bad at all.

    Posted by: ny2.0 | Dec 29, 2013 3:23:36 PM


  14. I don't think Francis is ruthless at all. He's called out Wall Street & Banks & the GOP. He advocates (no pun intended) for the poor. Those positions are completely counter to his predecessors.

    Not everyone in the Church likes Francis and God knows (again, no pun) that it's rife with power struggles. Let's give him the benefit of the doubt until we hear this directly from his own mouth.

    Posted by: SERIOUSLY | Dec 29, 2013 3:32:35 PM


  15. said it before and will say it again

    nothing has changed till the catechism changes

    Posted by: Moz's | Dec 29, 2013 3:45:16 PM


  16. "the fawning over Pope Francis demonstrates something profoundly depressing: in the struggle for a better world, women’s and LGBT rights are still not taken seriously."

    That pretty much describes The Advocate, a faint image of what it once was.

    Posted by: Randy | Dec 29, 2013 3:48:45 PM


  17. man of the year or not, the Catholic Church is and always will be hateful of our lifestyle. neither this Pope or the next pope will change that. it is pathetic that they think we are so evil and sinful. Catholics will not even take the time to know what gay men and women are about. and the word is Pathetic.

    Posted by: Tim | Dec 29, 2013 3:53:39 PM


  18. So funny to see the words liberal and progressive without any context.

    In the RC context, Francis is a radical because even when it comes to anything at all related to sex he focuses on the church's real failures: keeping those who divorce in the church, letting birth control dominate its pitch to married couples, and the failure of heterosexuals to marry. Lots of sex stuff in their, but we homos are an afterthought in comparison with the big issues.

    Posted by: Chuckles | Dec 29, 2013 3:59:38 PM


  19. Pope Francis is messing with the brand image.

    Remember what happened to Coke when they tried New Coke and had to go back to Coke Classic.

    Same thing here. Marketing 101.

    Posted by: james st. james | Dec 29, 2013 3:59:48 PM


  20. And If the Editors at The Advocate weren't such a bunch of misogynistic, arrogant, out-of-touch fools, they would have picked Edie Windsor as Person of the Year--someone who made a positive and immediate difference in the lives of so many. Instead of honoring the head of a hate group.

    Between that and HRC's idiotic response to reinstalling Duck Dynasty, I think some of our fearless leaders are disgusting.

    Posted by: Kip | Dec 29, 2013 4:10:58 PM


  21. It is a myth that the Church is full of "good men". My bet is Francis is just another opportunist who skillfully manipulated himself to the top of the hierarchy. The incident just exposed him to be a two-faced liar.

    Posted by: simon | Dec 29, 2013 4:57:40 PM


  22. Big news: the nicer bigot is a bigot, too. Bigot of the Year!!

    Posted by: AdamK | Dec 29, 2013 5:18:48 PM


  23. The catholic church is the single longest running evil on the planet. It has out surviced governments. lived through upheavals in political models (Empires, Kings, Fascism, Democracy) and still manages to scare people into submission. I challenge any catholic to name one ENTIRELY altruistic and GOOD act the CHURCH has ever done. They sponsor war based on difference of belief, they sponsor hatred of minorities, supported slavery, support the spread of disease by condemning the use of condoms, foster a culture that is rife with pedofphilia and alcoholism - and raped the poor of their labor to build their riches. No Catholic has ever been able to name one thing that was good. They try with things like Maria Theresia (a horrible human who profited on keeping children poor and uneducated, supported not speaking out against economic insustice, and advocated for no parental planning but rather indiscriminate birthing by woman and families that couldn't afford it - while selling babies to suppport her adoption clinic. Horrible horrible horrible. Not one redeeming quality. If there is 'satan' on earth - it is SURELY the pope.

    Posted by: Tommyz | Dec 29, 2013 6:00:04 PM


  24. Why can't people liberate themselves from the tyranny of this malicious church and its evil agents? The pope is as much a fraud as is in-it-for-the-money Pat Robertson or any corn-pone, tongues-babbling fundamentalist preacher in rural Arkansas. Enough with holy men, shamans, and witch doctors of any and all faiths. Fakers one and all.

    Posted by: Jim | Dec 29, 2013 6:29:42 PM


  25. Interesting comment: http://newsone.com/2818434/michael-eric-dyson-jesus-homoerotic/#comment-1179914277

    Posted by: woodroad34d | Dec 29, 2013 8:03:41 PM


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