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  1. Henry Holland says

    What makes me laugh is that people like him never come up with concrete, real world proposals. Boycott and not go? Not viable, too late for that, plus boycotts usually fail. Protest? That’s not going to change anything, Russia can ignore them. Invade? Hahahaha, please.

    Sorry, this is a Russian problem that Russians have to solve.

  2. MaryM says

    Heré’s what SHOULD have been done.

    Let the athletes attend but do not send a government delegation.

    A clear statement prior to the Games by the USOC condemning Russian fascism and condemnation of the useless and corrupt IOC.

    A pledge of support by USOC for any US medal winner who wished to make public protest.

    A threat of trade sanctions against Russia unless they reversed their fascist laws.

  3. MaryM says

    None of that has happened so the most effective thing to do is to not watch the Games and not purchase products made by the sponsors – that is merely collaborating with fascism.

  4. woodroad34 says

    I don’t know that Chris Pine is a political problem solver, but I think it’s great he added his voice to Ian McKellen’s and several European scientists. Chris Pine undoubtedly has people who look up to him and his voice will help to inspire them. So, all in all, good for him. Some people have ideas like @MaryM and some people inspire others like Chris Pine.

  5. Belthazar says

    @Henry – you said it all in the first sentence, “What makes me laugh is that people like him never come up with concrete, real world proposals.” It’s as bad and vague as ‘We should have World Peace’.

  6. says

    It’s wonderful that Chris is speaking out. Some of the more negative among us will say he’s using a political situation or social issue to draw attention to his movie. I see it as him using his work, his popularity, and the general interest in his movie to draw attention to a cause on which he has a strong opinion. As he isn’t a politician nor an activist, I don’t think it’s his responsibility to come up with solutions.

    Adding his voice to those opposed to Russia’s anti-gay policies is good for us. I doubt it will help his career… and perhaps we’re seeing progress that standing up like this isn’t expected to hurt his career.

  7. Belthazar says

    “As he isn’t a politician nor an activist, I don’t think it’s his responsibility to come up with solutions.”

    It is his responsibility when you are criticizing others for not doing enough. What’s enough?

    Additionally, it is not being negative to point out that he [may] be using the statement to draw attention to his movie. Sochi has been a hot-button issue for months.

  8. says

    “It is his responsibility when you are criticizing others for not doing enough. What’s enough?”

    Since we as a country are doing practically nothing that would impact Russia or the businesses profiting from the Olympics, I think it’s fair to assert that we’re not doing enough without qualifying additional steps. The point can be made that ANYTHING with an actual effect would be “more” than what’s currently being done.

    By speaking out as an individual and private citizen, Chris is certainly doing more than nothing. And I think you would have a hard time proving that speaking on the issue will get his movie any measurable attention that it will already get based on his popularity as an actor and his previous work.

  9. BETTY says

    Oh dear god Balthazar and Ken. He is promoting the movie regardless. He is doing press junkets regardless. And as such, he has the attention of the press right now so why not use that soap box to say how he feels? Why do people, bitter people like yourselves, automatically assume he has ulterior motives? You don’t think these journalists were going to ask him about this (probable already asked him) seeing as the movie had a Russian backdrop? Duh! Take a chill pill already.

  10. Belthazar says

    “…I think it’s fair to assert that we’re not doing enough without qualifying additional steps.”

    If you don’t qualify what is “enough” then explain to me how anyone would ever know when they reached a point of “enough” in your [Chris’] eyes. Additionally, I think it can be reasonably argued that the US government has done more than “nothing”.

    Further, I never said he was using the statement to promote his movie. I said, “it is not being negative to point out that he [may] be using the statement to draw attention to his movie.”

    @Betty – I never “punch down” so there isn’t a further need to address you.

  11. BETTY says

    “Further, I never said he was using the statement to promote his movie. I said, “it is not being negative to point out that he [may] be using the statement to draw attention to his movie.”

    Yes, you did. You just said it wasn’t negative to point it out but you still pointed it out. Nice try. Get over yourself.

  12. Bruce Hackel says

    Thank you Chris for your support, we all should appreciate any support we get from allies. All open opinions make a difference. And for that we thank you!

  13. emjayay says

    Every demonstration and boycott and famous person saying something is a good thing. It all adds up. For one thing it devalues the commercial propaganda value of products associating themselves with these Olympics. And Russians and the Russian government are not doubt noticing. It’s a corrupt oligarchy with a reactionary church and a lot of ignorant people, but it’s not North Korea.

    It would be rude to the athletes – like saying you’re on your own guys, we don’t care, and way too much of a counterproductive blatant slap in the face of Russia to not send a delegation. Gay rights in Russia is not the only thing going on between the US and Russia.

    I do hope some stuff happens in Sochi off the field, and some clever things at the games itself, in support of gay rights. It’s up to the athletes and people attending the Olympics to figure out what are the right things to do.

  14. WOLF says

    Goddamn, you are all a bunch of over-analytical negative Nancies. Must you all always do the beyond tired nitpicking of everything positive? It’s like you feed off negativity…

    Can’t someone do or say something nice about gay people and it not absolutely have to have an alterior motive or simply not be enough? Would you have preferred he said nothing?

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