Spain’s New Cardinal: Homosexuality is a ‘Defect’ Like High Blood Pressure and Can Be Corrected

Spain's new Cardinal Fernando Sebastian Aguilar, chosen by Pope Francis a week ago, has quickly made it known how he feels about homosexuality, calling it a "defect" which can be corrected, AFP reports:

Aguilar"A lot of people complain and don't tolerate it but with all respect I say that homosexuality is a defective way of manifesting sexuality, because that has a structure and a purpose, which is procreation," Sebastian told Malaga newspaper Sur…

"We have a lot of defects in our bodies. I have high blood pressure. Am I going to get angry because they tell me that? It is a defect I have that I have to correct as far as I can," said Sebastian, who is the archbishop emeritus of the northern city of Pamplona.

"Pointing out a defect to a homosexual is not an offence, it is a help because many cases of homosexuality can be recovered and normalised with adequate treatment. It is not an offence, it is esteem. When someone has a defect, the good friend is the one who tells him."

Aguilar also said that Pope Francis wasn't accepting homosexuality when he said "who am I to judge?"

Said Aguilar: "It is one thing to show welcome and affection to a homosexual person and another to morally justify the exercise of homosexuality."


  1. GLIA says

    What a horrible human being. A monster, really. Again, this is what happens when ignorance is given a position of power. humanity was made in the image of God, is his God truly beneficent?

  2. ascanius1 says

    the catholic church is evil.

    religion is evil.

    as soon as the marriage issue is settled, it’s time to gear up our forces to seriously limit the influence and special privileges enjoyed by religions in the usa.

    join a humanist or atheist/agnostic organization today. contribute and participate.

    the tide against religion is turning in the industrialized west.

  3. jimmy says

    Been to a Catholic Church in Spain recently?
    I have (to look at the architecture) and they are essentially empty save for a few over-70’s. He can preach his bigotry all he wants to the empty pews.
    Same-sex marriage is legal in Spain…has been since 2005. That won’t change.
    Cardinal Fernando Sebastian Aguilar will be dead soon. Good riddance!

  4. jomicur says

    Believing in magical ceremonies, such as a priest’s ability to change bread and wine into meat and blood, is a serious human defect. And it is easily curable–by applying intelligence.

  5. Nick says

    Believing in an imaginary friend that created the world around 6k years ago is not only a mental defect but laughable—however one can’t laugh at the source of so much misery and genocide over the years.

    Is he the emissary that the Holy See wants to communicate “its message of love and tolerance” that they falsely claim is the basis of their beloved Buy-bull?

    Keep preaching ignorance and hate… and your sheep are the embodiment of the term defective-defective minds.

  6. Fahd says

    Thank goodness for Towleroad continuing to compile a record of all these homophobic utterances from religious “leaders” and celebrities.

    One day soon this sort of despicable prejudice borne of ignorance will be seen for what is.

    Today seems like a good day to type:

    We shall overcome.

  7. says

    Aguilar also said that Pope Francis wasn’t accepting homosexuality when he said “who am I to judge?”

    Another Cardinal from another country denying Francis’ words of tolerance. This one just appointed by Francis. Every anti-gay Catholic gets to define & redefine the Pope’s words to suit their views. If what they’re saying isn’t true wouldn’t Francis have said something to correct them by now?

    Why the silence Francis?

  8. A La Mierda! says

    How many children has Fernando Sebastian Aguilar fondled? How many young men has he sexually abused? How many prostitutes has he patronized? How much money has he stolen from parishoners?

    It is well known in Spain that priests are some of the most corrupt public figures–on par with conservative politicians, and certain members of the royal family.

    Gays and lesbians should fight back against this kind of abusive hate speech. Demand investigations into the finances of Fernando Sebastian Aguilar. You’re guaranteed to find history of fraud and corruption.

  9. andrew says

    Fernando, in as friendly a way as I can put it, you have a serious defect. You are intellectually defective. Unfortunately, you are probably too old to correct it. Fortunately, good people can love the defective, just not the defect.

  10. JackFknTwist says

    Of course homosexuality is a defect; your Catechism says so,you must believe it…..”intrinsically defective”, that’s what you say we are.
    You are just restating the obvious and doctrinal beliefs of the Catholic Church.

    Keep digging you scumbags……your hole is now so deep and bigoted that at last people are seeing you priests for what you are, scared, self promoting fantasists. You invented Limbo, Original Sin, Virgin Birth, Assumption of Christ and Mary bodily into the sky…….the list of Catholic concoctions is endless.
    Keep digging you scumbags of bigotry.

  11. sword says

    Cardinal Aguilar: “We have a lot of defects in our bodies”. Suggestion to the Pope: All priests have to be castrated! With so much less hormones…fewer pedophiles, fewer nuns giving birth, etc.

  12. Lucca says

    As it is written in the Book of Bernadette 2:3, “Stop flexing your muscles, you big pile of budgie t*rd. I’m sure your mates will be much more impressed if you just go back to the pub and f**k a couple of pigs on the bar.”

    If you can pull stuff out of your a$s and claim it as reason, I can quote Priscilla Queen of the Desert as gospel.

  13. Fleecers of Flocks says

    Priests are defective humans. They attempt to cut themselves off from human love and sexuality in order to join a corrupt institution and serve and imaginary being.

    The massive (and massively underreported) rate of sexual abuse among priests is a manifestation of them realizing that their chosen defective way of life is a dead end.

    After they rape children and steal from the public, they become bitter and jaded just like Fernando Sebastian Aguilar. The longer they serve, and the higher they move up the corporate church hierarchy, the more bitter and disillusioned and perverted they become, and they simply can’t hold back their bitter bile at the empty, loveless lives they’ve led.

  14. JackFknTwist says

    PS :
    Grow up boys.
    The Pope is a Jesuit.
    He will say any form of words to ease the outcry against the Catholic Church for its bigotry.
    You all jump on the bandwagon of Pope Francis’ words……..
    Just wait for the deeds.
    Wait form him to repeal this hateful clause of their Catechism which calls us “intrinsically defective”.
    Let’s see the actions of this man —not his pat-on-the-head Jesuit words.

  15. Nigel says

    Dear cardinal please don’t take offense I’m only trying to help you as a friend, some of my own acquaintances are “religioned”, you participate and support a house of hate and child rape. Please get fixed.

  16. Rafa in Toronto says

    JACKFKNTWIST, you refer to the pope being a Jesuit as if it were a sinister thing. Within Catholicism, the Jesuits are among the most progressive groups, valuing education, helping the poor, and community engagement. Maybe you are confusing the Jesuits with the Opus Dei.

  17. anon says

    In Spain, France and Italy, the RCC receives a lot of state funding, so empty churches can remain open, and there are many more priests sometimes than parishioners. This sort of state funding should be slowly ended to bring the RCC back to reality in Europe.

  18. Robert Rhea says

    I get so sick of this “We love you too much to not tell you” business. It’s so Arrogant! Not only to believe that you know how I am, but also that your faith dictates that you should tell me. Love me enough to keep your beliefs to yourself unless I ask.

  19. Richard says

    The Catholic Church is defective, and many priests are pedophiles. Why are vile comments from ignorant, celibate men in medieval costumes broadcast and taken seriously by anyone?

  20. JackFknTwist says


    No I was not confusing the Jesuits with the Opus Dei Secret Society.

    The Jesuits have always been sophists…..they will equivocate rather than confront a dilemma.
    Opus Dei are infiltrators, they set out as lay men to become powerful within society, they pursue professions lawyers, doctors etc
    They have no interest in the poor; they are only concerned with influencing laws and moral withing the upper echelons of society.

    But frankly, I have no time for either of these gangs of religious thugs.

  21. Bill says

    @Nick : The Catholic Church does not claim the earth was created some 6000 years ago – that silliness is popular among the crazier Protestant churches (the fundamentalist ones, specifically). After making fools of themselves regarding Galileo, the Catholics might be a little more nervous about commenting on cosmology.

    @Joel: Papal infallibility applies only to statements made “ex cathedra”, not everything a pope says. Ex cathedra statements are very rarely made and when they are, they are usually about obscure theological matters that nobody will ever be able to test empirically. It’s not like anyone is ever going to be able to measure how many angels can dance on the head of a pin, should the pope decide to make an ex cathedra statement about that.

  22. jjose712 says

    To be honest, spaniards ignore out church hierarchy for years.
    The more progressive people is (even in conservative circles) the more ultraconservative the catholic church hierarchy became.
    Maybe it was an overreaction to their loss of power (most catholics ignore completely what church says, and the churchs are empty in a lot of places, maybe because the bishops seem to have a tendency to punish priests who really care about people).

    He was blasted by journalist (even in the conservative media) today. He did exactly what pope Francis wants them to avoid

  23. JackFknTwist says

    Congratulations to this clown.

    This is wonderful propaganda….
    It’s unfortunate that Fascist Putin and the backwoods Russians take this garbage seriously but in the West we know that Cardinals calling us ‘defective’ is one hell of a joke.

  24. gb says

    “many cases of homosexuality can be recovered and normalised with adequate treatment.”…To this I say please provide examples of this successful “treatment” whatever it is.

  25. jjose712 says

    Bill; you are right, Catholics don’t denie evolution either. I study in a catholic school and nobody questioned evolution (in fact creacionism would be considered a joke if somebody wanted to introduce it here).

    Catholics are very far from being that conservative. Nobody uses Jesus as excuse here, and only groups like Opus Dei show their blatant oposition to gay rights.

    The difference is the church hierarchy, they are uber conservative and quite greedy, they only think about money and influence.
    They tried to change some laws (some ministers are members of Opus Dei) but gay marriage was out of touch (most voters of our conservative party are pro gay marriage), so they do it with abortion, but there are a lot of contestation to that law right now, and in the end i don’t think they will get what they want either.

  26. Simon says

    “homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered.” This is the sixth commandment of the Catechism of the Catholic Church. Therefore it is the official position of the Church and consequently that of Pope Francis. His only sin was “focusing too much on it”.

  27. Jane Higgins says

    Why all the hate? Doesn’t this man have a right to air his views? You may consider that he is incorrect but many will agree with him. Fifty years ago homosexuality was illegal in most countries and many think it still should be.

    Some contributions on here suggest that he is ignorant but science is beginning to investigate the possibility that homosexuality is a form of birth defect, perhaps due to the activities of the mother. Time will tell if there is anything in this, I guess.

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