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  1. ascanius1 says

    there’s no credible evidence for anything supernatural, much less for the barbaric “god” of the abrahamic religions.

    there’s no credible evidence for the divinity of jesus.

    we have to publicly call out all religionists on their mumbo jumbo.

    we can no longer allow them to go about claiming to know things they don’t know.

    the scam is up.

  2. Bernie says

    I am going to be as polite and respectful on this as possible……It is my belief that religion should not promote hate and this sign about Jesus would stone Homos should be unacceptable as that type of signage could give some folks permission to commit violence against gay people……and what continues to bewilder and shock me is that pastors/preachers in the black community preach and promote anti-gay statements and I guess I struggle with one minority group being so insensitive to another minority group……and yes, I understand those who promote anti-gay beliefs don’t believe being gay is a minority class, but…….there should be some level of sensitivity that those who are seen as different in society……

  3. Jay says

    The dumbass would probably enjoy the publicity, but someone should sue his ass for threatening bodily harm. Or maybe just toss a few stones at him.

  4. michael says

    There are some theories Jesus was gay, in a relationship with John, and I hope so because him and every asshat like him are going to be in for one hell of a shock.

  5. ascanius1 says

    the kkk is also a christian organization. if finds scriptural justification for the separation of the races and for white supremacy.

    discuss.

  6. walter says

    according to the same book he uses to stone gays it will be okay to grab the pastor and put him back in chains since the bible allows for the owning of slaves . i am sick of these people who use the bible as an instrument of hate by using selected passages

  7. George says

    This is exactly why Protestants should never have broken away from the Catholic church. If a Catholic priest ever suggested that gay people should be stoned he would be excommunicated and defrocked by the Pope. This is what happens when any and every ignoramus reads the Bible and thinks they can interpret scripture for themselves and know the truth.

  8. says

    uh…george…protestants breaking away from the catholic church are the reason i was brought up in the humanist, LGBT-inclusive and non-dogmatic united church of canada, with a gay and then a lesbian minister.

    funny, though. the pastor has no qualms with utterly re-painting Christ into a hateful violent boor.

  9. middleoftheroader says

    This is precious. Let him keep talking. It will make any reasonable human being understand how hatred can be used by preachers. He could replace Phelps from the Westboro Baptist Church.
    oh, maybe we should send him to Uganda.
    does anyone know anything about his church, or about what his church congregation thinks?That would be enlightening.

  10. JJ says

    “i am sick of these people who use the bible as an instrument of hate by using selected passages”

    Given all the rape, slaughter, enslavement, torture, misogyny, and cruelty the Bible calls for, you’d have to be highly selective to see it as anything other than an instrument of hate. It says what it says, not what you want it to say, and it _means_ what it says, not what you want it to mean.

    The problem isn’t simply the Pastor Mannings of the world who use the Bible to justify hatred. The problem is everyone who legitimizes the Bible, thereby making the hatred it calls for a legitimate subject of debate. Those who legitimize the Bible and then pretend it doesn’t promote hatred and cruelty are quislings to its savagery and backstabbers of the millions upon millions who have suffered the evil it commands. ALL belief in the Bible needs to be utterly extinguished. The meager few redeemable moral teachings it offers are well established elsewhere. We don’t need to cling to a profoundly and thoroughly defective myth to justify them and maintain them.

  11. Steve says

    In his justifiacation of saying Jesus would stone homos this Minister said the word LOVE once. In the first same sex weding today in Muskegan County Michigan the word LOVE was used 33 times. I counted. You decide- Where is the love and where is the hate.

  12. RK says

    What’s with him calling gay people “homes”? If he persists to be this much of a dumbass, then I reserve the right to use the N-word against him. Stone for Stone bigot!

  13. gregorybrown says

    I try to avoid ad hominem remarks but…this man is fat and stupid, pompous, self-righteous and a fool. Now, if I were to add my NEGATIVE assessments….

  14. FamilyFriendly says

    Loud defamations lead to violence; that is the pattern.

    This pastor is a LIAR! He knows damn well he’s inciting/inviting/encouraging violence against the people he doesn’t like.
    I’m sure he would see his lie more clearly if he were presented with his quote slightly changed:
    “I never said that I would stone n*****s. I never said that. I never said that I would ask anyone else to stone n*****s. I never said that. What I did say is what the Bible says, and I gave several verses within the word of God that would demonstrate why I believe that Jesus would stone n*****s.”

    I remember in the Spawn series a ‘priest’ being interviewed by someone, and being super slick about not being responsible for encouraging people to muder abortion doctors, gays, and blacks. Eventually Spawn gets hold of this priest and makes him endure first hand exactly the types of violence he encourages; I remember he gets gay-bashed and then lynched, the whole time pleading with the mobs that he’s straight and white… if only that were possible…

  15. Bill says

    Jesus also warned of false prophets – wolves in sheep’s clothing. There’s an easy way to tell which one he is – by checking the price tag on the clothes he’s wearing. It’s the false prophets who bring in the bucks.

  16. Bill says

    @gregorybrown: The standard term, argumentum ad hominem, is a Latin phrase meaning “argument against a person” and is the name of a logical fallacy. If you said that Pastor Manning was wrong because he is “fat and stupid, pompous, self-righteous and a fool,” that would be an example of argumentum ad hominem. On the other hand, if you merely say that he is “fat and stupid, pompous, self-righteous and a fool,” that is simply an observation (no doubt a true one in this case) and thus not a logical fallacy. Making such an observation does not violate any rules of logic. It does, however, offend the etiquette police, whose official spokesperson is Ms. Manners.

  17. Chris anderson says

    Does anyone want to point out the this jackass the NUMEROUS passages in the bible that condone slavery and tell you how long you may keep a slave and how severely you can beat them? It is all in the Bible. All of it. God condones Slavery. Tell this Jackass to shut the hell up. He does realize that he simply chose to be a pastor. That isn’t a position he got by doing anything noble or being appointed by a group of peers. One day he said, “I want to be a pastor” so he got a little “schooling” and get a job. So why does ANYONE follow people like this. he is no better than anyone out there walking among us. He doesn’t have a direct link to a higher power. He is just some idiot that wasn’t smart enough to get a job of authority so he gets the one job that doesn’t require any smarts. He becomes a pastor and now people, for some stupid reason, give him credence as though anything he says should matter in the running of the world. It doesn’t. So shut the hell up!

  18. Tabo says

    Anyone who proclaims to be a Christian and know the Father, Son and the Holy Spirit should know that Jesus would never have stoned anyone. His entire doctrine was of peace and love.

  19. BrokebackBob says

    What needs to happen is for a great big stone to come through the picture window of his living room with him in there undoubtedly watching some on his DVD set of Queer as Folk.

  20. MaddM@ says

    First, he should be arrested and charged with instigating illegal acts with his speech (assault) and maybe conspiracy too since it’s the whole church

    second, this man is obviously an idiot and missed the point of the new testament

    third, slavery is a-ok with the bible so maybe we ought to bust out some shackles and ship him south

    fourth, what was that jesus said? Let he who is without sin start throwing stones because homos? yeah didn’t think so

  21. Bill says

    @Chris anderson: @MaddM@: keep in mind that, at the time and in neighboring cultures, slaves had no rights at all, so the stuff in the Bible about how to treat them, while unacceptable today, was an improvement at that time (limited as that might be).

  22. Nikko says

    TABO, not true. On the surface Jjesus seems to be all about “peace’nlove” BUT He did speak on the unquenching fires of Hell, judgemnt to those who don’t believe, etc. What about that Jesus from the same New Testament?

  23. Truthseeker says

    From the EvilBible”dot”com:

    Except for murder, slavery has got to be one of the most immoral things a person can do. Yet slavery is rampant throughout the Bible in both the Old and New Testaments. The Bible clearly approves of slavery in many passages, and it goes so far as to tell how to obtain slaves, how hard you can beat them, and when you can have sex with the female slaves.

    Many Jews and Christians will try to ignore the moral problems of slavery by saying that these slaves were actually servants or indentured servants. Many translations of the Bible use the word “servant”, “bondservant”, or “manservant” instead of “slave” to make the Bible seem less immoral than it really is. While many slaves may have worked as household servants, that doesn’t mean that they were not slaves who were bought, sold, and treated worse than livestock.

    The following passage shows that slaves are clearly property to be bought and sold like livestock.

    However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)

    The following passage describes how the Hebrew slaves are to be treated.

    If you buy a Hebrew slave, he is to serve for only six years. Set him free in the seventh year, and he will owe you nothing for his freedom. If he was single when he became your slave and then married afterward, only he will go free in the seventh year. But if he was married before he became a slave, then his wife will be freed with him. If his master gave him a wife while he was a slave, and they had sons or daughters, then the man will be free in the seventh year, but his wife and children will still belong to his master. But the slave may plainly declare, ‘I love my master, my wife, and my children. I would rather not go free.’ If he does this, his master must present him before God. Then his master must take him to the door and publicly pierce his ear with an awl. After that, the slave will belong to his master forever. (Exodus 21:2-6 NLT)

    Notice how they can get a male Hebrew slave to become a permanent slave by keeping his wife and children hostage until he says he wants to become a permanent slave. What kind of family values are these?

    The following passage describes the sickening practice of sex slavery. How can anyone think it is moral to sell your own daughter as a sex slave?

    When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl’s owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)

    So these are the Bible family values! A man can buy as many sex slaves as he wants as long as he feeds them, clothes them, and screws them!

    What does the Bible say about beating slaves? It says you can beat both male and female slaves with a rod so hard that as long as they don’t die right away you are cleared of any wrong doing.

    When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)

    You would think that Jesus and the New Testament would have a different view of slavery, but slavery is still approved of in the New Testament, as the following passages show.

    Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. (Ephesians 6:5 NLT)

    Christians who are slaves should give their masters full respect so that the name of God and his teaching will not be shamed. If your master is a Christian, that is no excuse for being disrespectful. You should work all the harder because you are helping another believer by your efforts. Teach these truths, Timothy, and encourage everyone to obey them. (1 Timothy 6:1-2 NLT)

    In the following parable, Jesus clearly approves of beating slaves even if they didn’t know they were doing anything wrong.

    The servant will be severely punished, for though he knew his duty, he refused to do it. “But people who are not aware that they are doing wrong will be punished only lightly. Much is required from those to whom much is given, and much more is required from those to whom much more is given.” (Luke 12:47-48 NLT)

  24. Gay Guy says

    There is no credible evidence outside the so-called “New Testament” that Jesus existed. Also – based on the New Testament – he is not a patrilineal descendant of David as he supposedly has no biological father. Even if this individual did exist, he was neither messiah nor divine.

  25. E. Manhattan says

    I have a soft spot for this guy because of his accusation that Obama was sending white homo demons to swoop (yes swoop!) down on black men and drag them away from black women.

    Somehow “white homo demon” delights me – it is such a succinct, vivid and exaggerated distillation of all the vitriol that has been hurled at me over the years for being gay that it goes right over the top into total fantasy land, like the violence in a Tom and Jerry cartoon.

    I’m thinking of having new cards made, with “White Homo Demon” underneath my name. And perhaps we can have a

    “Homo Demons – All Colors, All Flavors, All Textures”

    parade here in Dallas this summer.

  26. oldmanriver says

    I’m sticking to what Jesus said about homosexuality…which was NOTHING. It’s a non-starter. The OT had a few things to say, but that was in regards to the behavior in social settings and regards to hospitality of the host. It might have been an ‘abomination’ to those frustrated old men trying to understand the original meanings, but it’s interesting that Jesus himself never broached the subject!

  27. Steve Chapman says

    This “pastor” misinterprets the parable of the adulteress. First, where was the man? He was caught too, but it was only the woman who was brought to be stoned? Second, the Pharisees were attempting to trap Jesus. What would He do? He did say, You who are without sin, cast the first stone. I see those men (maybe even the man she was caught with) dropping their stones and leaving with their heads bowed. Jesus then said to the woman-where are the people who accused you? He told her that He didn’t condemn her. I think the pastor needs to reread the Scripture he cites.

  28. Bill says

    @Steve Chapman: “Pastor” Manning is blowing it in another way too. In that Biblical story, Jesus said, “let he who is without sin cast the first stone,” but Christians also believe that Jesus is the only person without sin. He quoted an Old Testament thing about witnesses doing the stoning, but Christians also believe that Jesus knows everything you do, making him a witness to everything that happens in the world. So, under the rules “Pastor” Manning is claiming, Jesus would have had a right to stone her, but supposedly said, “Neither do I condemn you,” so he chose not to stone her.

    What we can conclude is that “Pastor” Manning doesn’t understand his own theology.

  29. UFFDA says

    TRUTHSEEKER – thanks a whole lot for that…I just sent it on to my fundamentalist sister. I wish I could read the Bible myself and find all this kind of thing, but I haven’t got the stomach for that big a book with so many lies buried in its rubbish.

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