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Andrew Sullivan Brings His Brendan Eich Complaints to Stephen Colbert: VIDEO


Andrew Sullivan brought his argument that Brendan Eich was brought down by the 'gaystapo' (as like-minded conservatives would dub the imaginary group of gay activists conjured in this tale), to the Colbert Report last night where he was given carte blanche to discuss the episode.

Mozilla_colbertWatch the segments below.

A few notes of response to what Sullivan says since Colbert did not offer much.

Gay activists did not get Eich fired. As our Ari Ezra Waldman explains in his piece earlier this week, gay groups were not in this fight - Eich was brought down because he took actions that made him unfit to lead a unique community like Mozilla:

There was no mainstream gay rights organization calling for his head. No one "bullied" Mr. Eich out of Mozilla's headquarters. To say so is an insult to those of us who have been bullied in real life. And no cabal of intolerant gays proclaimed that disagreement with us merits unemployment. That seems to be a bogeyman conjured up in the prolific brain of Andrew Sullivan.

Eich was not being punished for a belief, as Sullivan says. He resigned after it was revealed he took financial action to specifically harm others (the Prop 8 donation) and made it worse by refusing to discuss his actions. It was not a group of gay activists out to "scalp" him as Sullivan would say, for a belief.

As Markos Moulitsas explained so well last week,

"This was Mozilla developers saying they refused to do work with a bigot, private websites blocking access to the Firefox browser because they refused to do business with a bigot, and employees of the firm speaking up because they refused to work for a bigot. In short, it was the free market expressing itself. Eich was perfectly within his rights to stay at Mozilla, but he would then face a hostile market and eventually faced the reality that he couldn't do his job in that environment. The free market spoke, and a free market enterprise was forced to react."

Sullivan says "where I draw the line is when we start targeting individuals for punishment or calling them heretics, or bigots, or haters without giving them a chance to really explain themselves."

But Sullivan did just that a few weeks ago when MSNBC was considering cutting Alec Baldwin for using an anti-gay slur. Michelangelo Signorile noted:

"...this is the same Andrew Sullivan who was first out of the gate with the pitchfork, driving Alec Baldwin off of MSNBC -- as Baldwin bombastically charged that he was the victim of Sullivan and his "fundamentalist wing of gay advocacy." ...

"But if you're going to get worked up over a guy hurling the word "c--ksucker" in the heat of the moment -- while he also gave money and support to the causes of LGBT rights and marriage equality -- you should be completely outraged by a man unapologetically giving money to a hate campaign that helped pass Prop 8 by demonizing gay men and lesbians in television ads charging that gays are dangerous to children. The damage done by those ads is incalculable, turning neighbors in California against one another, empowering anti-gay bullies in schools as well as the bashers on the streets."

Sullivan also brings up the talking point about Obama having the same views as Eich. Jeremy Hooper refuted that point well earlier in the discussion about Eich, writing:

...look, President Obama was certainly wrong on marriage, something he himself now realizes...But the fact of the matter is that the Democratic candidates (and most Dems in general) opposed the abject and unconstitutional nastiness that was and is Proposition 8 because, even when they had yet to come to their current places of support, they knew that altering governing documents for the sole purpose of limiting rights was a bad idea. Mr. Eich apparently felt otherwise.

Watch the segments below:

And here's Sullivan arguing the complete opposite in a discussion with Anderson Cooper about why Alec Baldwin should lose his job because of his anti-gay slurs:

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  1. Is he wearing white socks with dress shoes?

    Posted by: Jerramy | Apr 10, 2014 8:38:12 AM

  2. Question: How do you spell media whore?

    Answer: Andrew Sullivan

    Posted by: Factoid | Apr 10, 2014 8:41:39 AM

  3. Sully should stick to being a pig bottom.

    Posted by: Qj201 | Apr 10, 2014 8:47:06 AM

  4. Andrew Sullivan is such a pain.

    Posted by: Jay | Apr 10, 2014 8:47:49 AM

  5. Andrew Sullivan should climb into a bondage swing, clamp himself in and leave LGBT writing to a writer with guts. Brendan Eich was unrepentant, that was his downfall. He helped fund a campaign that tried to stop people from finding love and a committed relationship and I don't think any human being has that right. In that regard, he was inept.

    Posted by: Tim | Apr 10, 2014 8:50:01 AM

  6. Is it just me or are all Comedy Central videos autoplay? To have TWO videos playing simultaneously as soon as you open the TR homepage is annoying as hell!

    Posted by: Caliban | Apr 10, 2014 8:50:33 AM

  7. Sullivan is about as phoney as one can be! There is nothing genuine about him. He was HUGE cheerleader for the Iraq war --an idiot who wrote that he was unaware of the history of British and western influence in Iraq at the time of the invasion, and only became aware of some of Iraq's history 7 years into the war... when he calculated that the war was failing and slowly morphed into a war opponent. I believe that Sullivan was paid by the Bush administration (read Rove) to support the war. The Bush administration was passing around money to help "form public opinion" in favor of the war and a number of "columnists" were caught taking the Bush money.... although Sullivan has never admitted to taking money from the Bush administration to support the war, he has steadfastly ignored any questions concerning this issue.

    His position on Eich is untenable, and he knows it. Add to that, the fact that Sullivan is lying about what brought about Eich's resignation. Let's face it, no company would want to have a Holocaust denier on their board, or a black-hating racist, or a person who publicly denigrates women.... but paying contributions to organizations that argue for second class citizenship for gay people, that's what Sullivan is willing to give a pass to?? I despise Sullivan for all his money-grubbing and insincerity.

    Posted by: Dan Cobb | Apr 10, 2014 8:51:57 AM

  8. White socks works for Jerry Lewis. Not Sully.

    Posted by: David Ehrenstein | Apr 10, 2014 9:07:35 AM

  9. What Dan said.

    Posted by: Kenny | Apr 10, 2014 9:08:07 AM

  10. Andrew Sullivan is the gay version of Uncle Tom.

    Posted by: FuryOfFirestorm | Apr 10, 2014 9:09:14 AM

  11. Oh Sully, those high water pants have gotta go!

    Posted by: HOFFENPOT | Apr 10, 2014 9:10:36 AM

  12. Firstly, he is wearing light gray socks with a gray suit and black shoes. Some say this is OK, some not. But what we can agree on is that Andrew Sullivan, milky loads and all, is solely and exclusively TOTALLY about Andrew Sullivan. He is like the the third Gabor (gay-bore?) sister. He is La Boheme personified: Mimi, me, me, me, me... Ugh, drop a house on it, make it go away! Pleeeeeez.

    Posted by: Chandler in Las Vegas | Apr 10, 2014 9:12:05 AM

  13. Sullivan is enabling the risible "Christians being persecuted" meme with every utterance. Gay groups DID NOT call for Eich's firing.

    Posted by: radtastic | Apr 10, 2014 9:12:58 AM

  14. I agree with many of the comments.
    Sullivan has now set himself up as the protagonist for this new "gaystapo" soundbite.

    He will not acknowledge that Eike contributed funds to negate our rights.....pure and simple.
    Nor will he acknowledge that the employees of Mozilla detested Eikes.And if it's true that the Bush Administration bought his support for the Iraq war then Sullivan is as malevolent as he is manipulative.

    Posted by: JackFknTwist | Apr 10, 2014 9:17:47 AM

  15. "Take down the enemy!" Even when he's been our vocal friend and ally for so many years now.

    You know that the "gay rights" movement has morphed into radicalism when we see hit pieces like this against a stallwart ally like Andrew Sullivan. I guess even Andrew Sullivan isn't allowed to disagree with the radicalized talking points without being demonized.

    Wake up, folks. You've become a bunch of radicals, and are getting worse by the year.

    Posted by: Jon | Apr 10, 2014 9:18:50 AM

  16. I have never in my life hated another human I never knew, and I sincerely feel actual hate toward Sullivan. Like I sincerely hate the man.

    Posted by: Dominic | Apr 10, 2014 9:19:01 AM

  17. What is wrong with this man? WTF is wrong with him?
    Is he this attention starved?! What an effing media whore.

    Posted by: Steve J. | Apr 10, 2014 9:19:44 AM

  18. Ok that confirms it Andrew Sullivan really is a piece of dirt.

    Posted by: IonMusic | Apr 10, 2014 9:20:21 AM

  19. Talk about a witch hunt....Andrew Sullivan has been after the gay community since day 1 of this story wanting to feed us to the conservative lions. This man is evil. Truly.

    Posted by: Hughes | Apr 10, 2014 9:21:03 AM

  20. You all think he's bad in interviews? Trying working with him on a project. I sincerely think he is mentally unhealthy. Either that or a sincerely vicious, vicious, cruel man. (especially when no cameras are around to catch the fits he throws. I'll leave it at that)

    Posted by: A.J | Apr 10, 2014 9:23:09 AM

  21. Am I in the twilight zone? This man had nothing to do with this story and nearly two weeks after the Mozilla incident (which is OVER now) he and his publicists are still booking all these interviews of him demanding to insert himself into this story?

    Why doesn't this clown get more heat from LGBT?

    Forget the Eich guy, SULLIVAN'S actions have been for more damaging to the community, and for a number of years at that.

    Posted by: Klien | Apr 10, 2014 9:25:34 AM

  22. This shameless website (from the management to the commenters) is a virtual Andrew Sullivan lynch Mob. But that's okay -- in another week, like the Towleroad demonizing of Eich, you can all wash yourselves as white a snow and soothe you conscience by saying YOU NEVER SAID ANYTHING NEGATIVE about Sullivan.

    Why are my gay brothers like sheep? There are almost no dissenting voices here. You guys seem to be content being led around by the nose and then bleat like a drove of indoctrinated sheep.

    Posted by: will | Apr 10, 2014 9:26:08 AM

  23. You guys do realize this is the same guy who actively campaigned to not have LGBT included in the hate crimes bill -because he doesn't believe in any sort of hate crimes bill and doesn't believe hate crimes exist-

    He also told the LGBT community Bush would be good for the community and urged us to vote for him. THAT'S who you're dealing with here.

    Posted by: Gio Cio | Apr 10, 2014 9:27:41 AM

  24. Let's title this blog "Killing off Dissent".

    Posted by: will | Apr 10, 2014 9:28:51 AM

  25. Is the big elephant in the room that this man is bipolar and we're not supposed to talk about it? This whole circus show he's created with the Mazilla situation is completely deranged, border line psychotic. Paris Hilton and Kim Kardashian together don't crave this much attention.

    Posted by: Sheila J. | Apr 10, 2014 9:28:57 AM

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