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Saginaw, Michigan City Council Kills LGBT Ordinance in 9-0 Vote After Councilman Compares Gays to Nazis

Saginaw, Michigan's City Council voted 9-0 on Tuesday against an LGBT non discrimination ordinance after Councilman Dan Fitzpatrick compared gays and LGBT allies to Nazis, MLive reports.

FitzpatrickSaid Fitzpatrick:

"Most people know my position. What I'm totally amazed at is a number of people I've talked to or heard from say, 'Come on, just pass this thing.' Find out what it means later. Well how does that sound? Doesn't matter; if it's bad, fix it. Fix it later. It's going to happen eventually; just get with it. Be progressive. In about 1933 there was a real big youth movement in Germany called the party of national socialists. A lot of people said, 'You know, I don't like them. I don't know; I don't understand. But man they're good for business.'"

Fitzpatrick later tried to backtrack:

"I wasn't comparing them with the Nazis," he said. "Just the idea that just because something comes from the youth community, or a small subculture of youth or a subculture of our community, it doesn't mean it's necessarily good."

Gee thanks, you frightful bigot.

Fitzpatrick tried to backtrack some more:

"I'm not saying they're Nazis," he said. "I will say that sometimes these tactics smack of it. The similar kinds of things that the German youth movement did. That everything old is bad and everything new is good."

It's not the first time the LGBT nondiscrimination ordinance has been voted down after Fitzpatrick's objections. Back in April, he said:

"I will never vote for this, ever," Fitzpatrick said. "No matter how many amendments you put in here. Because sexual mores — your choice of what you do behind closed doors — has nothing to do with being a good citizen. It has nothing to do with the city of Saginaw. It has nothing to do with what we're charged here at this Council to do. Shame, shame on you.

He also apologized to black pastors at the City Council meeting for white people who compared the gay civil rights struggle to that of African-Americans.

Watch a report on last night's votes and Fitzpatrick's remarks from the earlier (April ) meeting, AFTER THE JUMP...

A report on this week's vote:

WNEM TV 5

The April meeting:

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  1. And nobody stands up to this imbecile? Not one vote for the ordinance? That is the real story here.

    Posted by: Wisebear | May 22, 2014 9:29:05 AM


  2. Again, gayface (sigh)!

    Posted by: Jack M | May 22, 2014 9:31:08 AM


  3. Whenever you hear somebody desperately resort to the tired Nazi analogy you know they are being intellectually lazy and dishonest.

    Posted by: Michael | May 22, 2014 9:31:49 AM


  4. Because, you know, only young people are gay.

    IF this assh*le only knew how many gay people in his district are over the age of 35...

    And yes, why doesn't anyone stand up to this c*nt???

    Posted by: johnny | May 22, 2014 9:42:04 AM


  5. Another old, bigoted straight white guy happy to discriminate against someone.

    Posted by: Alan | May 22, 2014 9:42:19 AM


  6. I am baffled people don't get how obnoxious it is to compare gay people to those who fried them to a crisp in convection ovens.

    Posted by: michael | May 22, 2014 9:54:24 AM


  7. I just came back from a business trip to Michigan. I can think of many places that I would have been treated better. Appalling!

    Posted by: Sean | May 22, 2014 9:55:20 AM


  8. Wait, isn't this Chicago's version of Fire Island? Been there once in the off season. Or is that Douglas?

    Posted by: zeddy | May 22, 2014 10:03:45 AM


  9. Godwin's Rule of Nazi Analogies raises its ugly head yet again ---> "... if an online discussion (regardless of topic or scope) goes on long enough, sooner or later someone will compare someone or something to Hitler or Nazism."

    the only change to it is that it's no longer only online based and more often than not, its focus is almost always regarding lgbtq now.

    btw, for those of you not aware, Saginaw has been sort of like the Midwest's Provincetown/Fire Island for decades.

    Posted by: mike/ | May 22, 2014 10:04:10 AM


  10. This is what Larry Kramer means about getting so little after all this time. Our right to exist still gets voted on regularly.

    Posted by: jeffg166 | May 22, 2014 10:15:41 AM


  11. The Conservatives of Michigan are The Souths Revenge - it's an appalling culture up there.

    Posted by: Little Kiwi | May 22, 2014 10:20:23 AM


  12. It's amazing to red about this Nenderthal's ramblings in the 21st century.
    the question again arises; what is this loon hiding ?

    Posted by: JackFknTwist | May 22, 2014 10:23:30 AM


  13. Saugatuck is the gay friendly town. I grew up in Saginaw and ran as fast as I could!

    Posted by: Jon | May 22, 2014 10:23:53 AM


  14. Dan Fitzpatrick does not understand the rise of one party. If he sat down and read a history book - he would find that he has interpreted this time period all wrong. If he were in a history class he would receive a well earn F.

    Posted by: robertL | May 22, 2014 10:32:08 AM


  15. if he what he said was true he would be the hospital as a result of the beating he'd get from the brown shirts.
    actually, it what he said was true, he never would have spoken at all. the very first time he intimated he was against equality the brown shirts would have gone to see him, threatened his family and business, graffitied slogans on his house, gotten his children kicked out of school and made it impossible for him to earn a living.
    Brown shirts would have packed the city council meeting to ensure the vote went their way or broken up the session before the vote.
    Real fascists would burn down the city hall and frame fitzpatrick for the crime.

    Has this amoeba ever displayed real physical courage? He thinks he's facing down nazis, but would he really take a beating or go to jail for what he thinks is right?
    Never mind Berlin, he needs to be reminded of what happened in Birmingham and Greensboro.

    Posted by: verbocityeric | May 22, 2014 10:44:08 AM


  16. Don't confuse Saginaw with the gay-friendly Saugatuck. They are worlds apart.

    Posted by: Tom | May 22, 2014 11:04:03 AM


  17. He doesn't realize the irony in his statement when he said that what people do behind closed doors has nothing to do with their legislature.
    What would ultra-conservatives Christians complain about if not for the evils of sex?

    Posted by: IEatCereal | May 22, 2014 11:50:06 AM


  18. Yes, Saginaw is the biggest city in Michigan's thumb. Douglas & Saugatuck are clear across the state right across Lake Michigan from Chicago. However, Saginaw does have gay bars. This nutcase needs to be reprimanded by the gay community, but there is a real homophobic attitude in MI. Most young gays leave MI as soon as they can for more tolerant states. The thumb of MI is very redneck. I'm sure I will get negative feedback, but that is what I see and so I will say it.

    Posted by: tominsf | May 22, 2014 12:18:11 PM


  19. Fighting for our rights is what Nazis do?

    ...versus majorities (straight people) who put initiatives on ballots to discriminate?

    Who's calling the kettle black?

    Posted by: TonyJazz | May 22, 2014 2:05:57 PM


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