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  1. spg says

    Wow. Well, on a sarcastic note, if only my fundamentalist evangelical mother had shunned me, and turned me over to the devil, I think I would have had a much happier and fun teenage life, instead of abuse, shame, horror, and a hellish day to day existence.

  2. robertL says

    Hopefully there is a “new testament” just god vs. the “old testament” cruel” god” that has a place for him and his “christian” beliefs in hell.

  3. Greg says

    In a twisted turn of events maybe it’s best that LBGT kids and adults remove themselves as far as possible from this kind of toxic parent and environs. The damage of being around these so-called “christians” could only spiral downwards.

  4. disgusted american says

    well SPG – Hopefully you shun her now…..sorry I cant relate – I grew up with WW2 Generation parents who Never treated me nor my lesbian sister any different then our other 6 siblings…..I guess I/we were lucky..

  5. throwslikeagirl says

    This is cruel. The church is in the middle of a lower-middle class/poverty area, made up largely of unschooled foreign-born folks. Fortunately, the LA public schools are very good with providing a sanctuary and base of information for LGBT kids. Nearby Hollywood is full of runaways from homes of parents similar to the ones who would listen to and believe this awful man. The LA LGBT Center (newly renamed from the LA Gay and Lesbian Center) does good work with these homeless teenagers. Sad, incredibly sad.

  6. Rev. Brad Vincent says

    I wish people would read the WHOLE Bible.

    Yes, Paul was upset with a man sleeping with his own mother and wrote:
    “…you must not associate with anyone who claims to be a brother or sister but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or slanderer, a drunkard or swindler. Do not even eat with such people.” (1 Corinthians 5:11-12 )

    BUT a few months later, he wrote again about the very same person with much more compassion:
    “For such a one, this punishment by the majority is enough, so you should rather turn to forgive and comfort him, or he may be overwhelmed by excessive sorrow. So I beg you to reaffirm your love for him.” (2 Corinthians 2:6-10)

  7. Brian says

    Ask this asshat to cite a single passage in the New Testament where Jesus shuns (or, in fact, says anything about) homosexuals. He can’t, because it doesn’t exist. There is not a single Christian thing about this man or his beliefs. Disgusting.

  8. Dan Cobb says

    I am so happy and thankful that my parents were smart enough to dismiss the nonsense that is Christianity, and every other religion, each of which is just as ridiculous.

  9. Mommy Queerest says

    The old fool is actually giving LGBT teens some helpful advice.

    It wasn’t until I made the decision to cut myself off from my fundamentalist family that I began to be able to accept myself and see myself as normal. No more fear of rejection by the people I’d been closest to, no more fear of being disowned. No more seeking approval which would never be forthcoming unless I repressed my sexuality and “accepted” Jesus (with them ramming him up my a.$.$.). And when the hateful words DID come, I was like “Who asked you anyway? Don’t write me, don’t call me, ESPECIALLY when you need a kidney.”

    The sooner that LGBT teens can make that psychic separation from an abusive, conservative, over-religious family situation, the better chance they’ll have to live normally, and to be happy and successful.

    In that sense, what Michael Sam said resonates: “If your family rejects you, come be a part of MY family.”

  10. Mommy Queerest says

    The old fool is actually giving LGBT teens some helpful advice.

    It wasn’t until I made the decision to cut myself off from my fundamentalist family that I began to be able to accept myself and see myself as normal. No more fear of rejection by the people I’d been closest to, no more fear of being disowned. No more seeking approval which would never be forthcoming unless I repressed my sexuality and “accepted” Jesus (with them ramming him up my a.$.$.). And when the hateful words DID come, I was like “Who asked you anyway? Don’t write me, don’t call me, ESPECIALLY when you need a kidney.”

    The sooner that LGBT teens can make that psychic separation from an abusive, conservative, over-religious family situation, the better chance they’ll have to live normally, and to be happy and successful.

    In that sense, what Michael Sam said resonates: “If your family rejects you, come be a part of MY family.”

  11. john says

    Well, since a person can CHOOSE to be Christian, I say, just make a better choice and don;t be Christian. Solves a whole bunch of problems and you will be a better person for it.

  12. Burt says

    I don’t know anymore how many people that joint attracts, but if he keeps up that line he’ll be downsizing. More and more people are seeing through that crap. I just wish the attendees would stand up and call bulls**t to his ranting.

  13. tinkerbelle says

    @ disgusted american — I had the same experience (myself + lesbian sister)— no problems at all, although I think this maybe had to do with the fact that my father was an escaped catholic and my mom an escaped protestant and both found solace in becoming Unitarians. Which is a good choice if you have to have a religion.

  14. YourFace says

    Is John MacArthur of the “Grace” Community Church endorsing murder? “You turn them over to Satan as it were as scripture says.” As in Leviticus 20:13?!

    I think gays really need to start doing something about these people. These psychopaths think that gays are just sitting ducks waiting to be shot.

  15. Anon says

    Dear Jaker,

    That’s why echkoltig said it. I’ve has this conversation with that troll before. They’re just trolling.

    These trolls love calling all homophobes gay to demoralize and shame gays. It’s a kind of victim blaming. Scott Lively does the same thing when he says that all anti-gay crime is gay-on-gay crime.

    There’s no substance to the argument but it has a certain level of ‘truthiness’ to homophobes and the uneducated because of those penile girth experiments in relation to straight and gay erotic imagery.
    The experiments just showed that some homophobes were aroused by homoerotic imagery.

    But homophobes LOVE to overextend the theory to s*** on gays.

  16. Bernie says

    and here I thought Christian values were love and family, not alienation and disconnection….this pastor’s so called advice is NOT loving, supportive, sensible, logical or rational….and it is sad if any parent with half a brain follows this asinine advice

  17. Bernie says

    and here I thought Christian values were love and family, not alienation and disconnection….this pastor’s so called advice is NOT loving, supportive, sensible, logical or rational….and it is sad if any parent with half a brain follows this asinine advice

  18. Bernie says

    and here I thought Christian values were love and family, not alienation and disconnection….this pastor’s so called advice is NOT loving, supportive, sensible, logical or rational….and it is sad if any parent with half a brain follows this asinine advice

  19. Bernie says

    and here I thought Christian values were love and family, not alienation and disconnection….this pastor’s so called advice is NOT loving, supportive, sensible, logical or rational….and it is sad if any parent with half a brain follows this asinine advice

  20. Bill says

    @butchsf : err, he said “adult child” – someone who is beyond the age that Child Protective Services handles.

    The obvious strategy is for the “adult child” to declare himself a non-believer, in which case the parents will have to buy dinner to get a chance to preach to him.

  21. ThomT says

    All those parents willing to disassociate themselves from their children (adult or otherwise) might want to first consider who will be responsible for their care when the become elderly and ill. I’ve known more than a couple of “disinherited” gay children who were virtually begged to return when their parent became unable to care for themselves. All of a sudden that “gay” stuff was unimportant when mom and/or dad were facing the need for long term care (and often financial assistance). Some of my friends have returned to care for a parent while others have given their parents the same treatment they received and shunned them. One friend told his hate filled father that he was going to find the cheapest nursing home staffed with nothing but gay nurses to take care of him (but he didn’t).

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