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Southern Baptist Convention Condemns Transgender People

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Delegates at the Southern Baptist Convention "overwhelmingly" affirmed that there are "two distinct genders" and that gender is determined biologically and not in any other way, at their convention yesterday. 

From Religion News Service:

The delegates, known as “messengers,” affirmed “God’s good design that gender identity is determined by biological sex and not by one’s self-perception.”

They added that they had compassion for people with gender conflicts, called them “image-bearers of Almighty God” and condemned “acts of abuse or bullying committed against them.”

But they went on the record to oppose gender assignment surgery and cross-sex hormone therapies. They expressed their hope that transgender people would “experience renewal” through a faith in Jesus.

In response to the news, GLAAD said that the convention "placed the denomination in opposition to the lives and reality of transgender people."

[T]he church only goes on to outline how it opposes the cultural acceptance of transgender people, which has been steadily rising. The denomination wants to have it both ways, welcoming in everyone, and yet denying the realities of their lives. Instead of listening to transgender people, it chose to define them as "other" and oppose their ability to live full and productive lives.

FloydSouthern Baptist Convention president Ronnie Floyd says the denomination won't relax its position on gay marriage or trans identity:

“We stand strong on what the Scripture says about marriage between a man and a woman. At the same time we do know that we have this issue facing our culture. But due to the situation today, we must hold the word of God in one hand and the love of God in the other, and have compassion and love to bring people into the fellowship.”

The delegates, "whose denomination was founded by supporters of slave-owning missionaries," also passed a statement to mark the 50th anniversary of the Civil Rights Act. 

From RNS:

It said they “lament and repudiate this nation’s long history of racial segregation as well as the complicity of Southern Baptists who resisted or opposed the dismantling of the evil of racial hierarchy in our churches or society.”

Yet another resolution affirmed their opposition to government sponsorship of casinos and lotteries and asked Americans of all religious and political convictions to join in a call to end the practice, which they say has amounted to “corrupt deals” and “broken dreams.”

They also rejected predatory payday lending, calling those who are engaged in it to “consider the great damage they are causing in the lives of vulnerable people and to adopt a just lending model.” The Baptists suggested churches and employers should provide other ways to solve short-term financial problems in their communities, including financial stewardship classes.

The Convention has taken other anti-LGBT stances recently. In 2013 they voted to denounce the Boy Scouts of America for their new policy allowing gay scouts. 

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  1. Wow, Ronnie Floyd is a piece of work, or rather, girlfriend has had a lot of work. Did he go the plastic surgeon and ask, "Are you familiar with Wayland and Madame?" because he looks just like the old ventriloquist dummy.

    Posted by: TM in LBC | Jun 12, 2014 11:31:47 AM


  2. The audacity of these science-deniers to use the word "biological." A word they're not even fit to use.

    Posted by: Kieran | Jun 12, 2014 11:33:32 AM


  3. So they “lament and repudiate this nation’s long history of racial segregation as well as the complicity of Southern Baptists who resisted or opposed the dismantling of the evil of racial hierarchy in our churches or society.”

    When will they begin to lament and repudiate the evil history of oppression of LGBT people and the complicity of Southern Baptists in this oppression? Maybe a hundred or two hundred years from now, if their church still exists and if humankind hasn't been wiped out by the carbon dioxide and methane gasses released by human activity?

    Posted by: john patrick | Jun 12, 2014 11:42:50 AM


  4. OMG, for a moment, I thought it was going to be bad news. I we ever were accepted by this intolerant, backwards, unenlightened, know nothing, racist, LBGTQI hating, God loves you (but your still going to hell), discriminatory bunch of poops, then I'd really be worried.

    Posted by: StevyD | Jun 12, 2014 11:46:05 AM


  5. Oops, my bad..."If we ever".

    Posted by: StevyD | Jun 12, 2014 11:47:16 AM


  6. What is it about the southern baptists and science? Facts are facts, and the long established fact is that transgender people do and always have existed. But then, why should we try to confuse the anti-Darwinists with facts?

    Posted by: jason MacBride | Jun 12, 2014 11:55:12 AM


  7. What Jesus said about gay people: " ".

    Posted by: Chadd | Jun 12, 2014 12:01:33 PM


  8. I love her highlights!

    Posted by: Joe | Jun 12, 2014 12:11:23 PM


  9. If Rupaul had said these things on Drag Race it would be okay because they are just words after all so why all the fuss?

    Posted by: shipshaper | Jun 12, 2014 12:25:31 PM


  10. “God’s good design that gender identity is determined by biological sex..."

    No sh*t Sherlock - that's EXACTLY what trans people are trying to tell you. Gender identity is biologically determined and is fixed at birth or very soon thereafter. The issue that you morons don't seem to grasp is that the gender of the brain may be different from the organs in the body. What trans people are trying to do, to one extent or another, is reconcile their physicality to the gender God, Nature or whatever gave them at birth.

    Posted by: CPT_Doom | Jun 12, 2014 12:27:06 PM


  11. Just remember, transphobic trolls on this site: these are your peers. Your bigotry against Trans people is exactly the same professed by the SBC, even if your motivations are different.

    Posted by: Tyler | Jun 12, 2014 12:34:02 PM


  12. Shouldn't NOW be the defender of Trannys and not GLAAD

    Posted by: Homo Genius | Jun 12, 2014 12:35:20 PM


  13. Hah! Shipshaper is an obvious troll (or fake)....

    He posted the exact same nonsensical comment on the Rick Perry article...

    Why would Rupaul say something this stupid?

    Posted by: TonyJazz | Jun 12, 2014 12:37:33 PM


  14. Other Translations of

    [T]here is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

    Galatians 3:28

    Posted by: Kevin | Jun 12, 2014 12:51:08 PM


  15. @CPT_DOOM,

    Why are you taking a social/psychological construct like "gender" and trying to turn it into a biological feature? If we want to argue our gender isn't determined by a piece of flesh between our legs, why are we trying to say it's instead determined by a piece of flesh a couple of feet higher? Gender, like sexuality, is part of the personal identity we construct throughout our lives. I'm not sure it's an improvement to say "my brain makes me this way" instead of "I desire to live and be treated as a gender different than the one assigned to me at birth." The "I can't help it" argument (biological determinism of gender or sexuality) may seem like a good tool for progress... but I think it undermines the importance of society respecting more than just our biology. Society should respect our desires and our choices just as much because our personal identity is not a biological artifact.

    Posted by: kipp | Jun 12, 2014 1:08:37 PM


  16. I knew it. Religious nuts, like pat Roberson, was silent on transgender because gays were their favorite targets. Now, it becomes more difficult to publically condemn gays, so they are looking for the next target. This demonstrates that only hatred can keep organized religion and churches flourishing.

    Posted by: ppp | Jun 12, 2014 1:18:08 PM


  17. Wow, Southern Baptists scraping the bottom of THEIR barrel. He looks like twenty miles of bad oilwell service road. I look at Ronnie Floyd, and I smell a meth-and-male-hooker scandal coming.

    But what I really want to know is: who highlights his hair, and what color does he use?

    Posted by: Roughneck Bruthuh | Jun 12, 2014 1:24:00 PM


  18. The new Ku Klux Klan. Evil, slippery, anti-christian. In fact, these are the types of people who will lead real Christians to boxcars, just look at the Oklahoma candidate's speech.

    Posted by: woodroad34 | Jun 12, 2014 1:26:47 PM


  19. They speak a different language. . . everything seems to be in code, not standard English.

    Posted by: Marty | Jun 12, 2014 1:33:38 PM


  20. Religious zealotry and fanaticism is an diseaase of addiction, and it's time we start treating it like one.

    Posted by: jexerer | Jun 12, 2014 1:35:43 PM


  21. YET transgenders will screach and holler against gay people for saying a word = TRANNY & most likely say nothing about the southern baptist convention

    Posted by: Moz's | Jun 12, 2014 1:42:42 PM


  22. Moz's, just because someone else is being a bigger bigot than you are, doesn't mean you don't also deserve to get called out for your bigotry. If the only defense for your bigoted hatred of an entire group of people is "well that guy over there is a bigger schmuck than me so let him have it and let me be," then you don't have a defense and deserve all the scrutiny you deservedly have coming your way.

    Deal with it. Or at least own being a bigot. Stop dancing around the issue that is Trans bigotry in a sizable portion of gay men.

    Posted by: Tyler | Jun 12, 2014 1:47:25 PM


  23. Tyler

    stop dancing around that a sizable segment of transgenders are homophobic

    Posted by: Moz's | Jun 12, 2014 1:49:35 PM


  24. Matthew 19 10-12 (New Revised Standard Version):

    10 His disciples said to him, “If such is the case of a man with his wife, it is better not to marry.” 11 But he said to them, “Not everyone can accept this teaching, but only those to whom it is given. 12 For there are eunuchs who have been so from birth, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by others, and there are eunuchs who have made themselves eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. Let anyone accept this who can.”


    Posted by: GregV | Jun 12, 2014 1:51:44 PM


  25. Moz's: prove it.

    Posted by: Thedrdonna | Jun 12, 2014 1:57:57 PM


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