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Pope Francis: Just To Be Clear, Gay Marriage Isn't On the Table - VIDEO

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Seemingly backtracking on promises made for a more inclusive Catholic Church, Pope Francis has indicated that same-sex marriage is not on the agenda, reports the Independent.

Seen by some as a reformer, Francis earlier this year suggested the church might support civil unions for same-sex couples. Last month, he demoted anti-gay U.S. Cardinal Raymond Burke.

At a meeting of bishops in October, it was declared that gay people have “gifts and qualities to offer.” However, following a backlash from conservatives, the church announced that the statement was part of a “working document” that did not reflect a change in the official Catholic stance on homosexuality.

In an interview published yesterday in La Nacion, Francis said that although the church must help parents to stand by their gay children, official Catholic acceptance of same-sex marriage is not being considered.

Vatican“What [the synod] did talk about was of how a family with a homosexual child, whether a son or a daughter, goes about educating that child, how the family bears up, how to help that family to deal with that somewhat unusual situation.

“That is to say, the synod addressed the family and the homosexual persons in relation to their families, because we come across this reality all the time in the confessional: a father and a mother whose son or daughter is in that situation. This happened to me several times in Buenos Aires.

“We have to find a way to help that father or that mother to stand by their son or daughter.”

However, he added that “nobody mentioned homosexual marriage” at the synod because “it did not cross our minds”.

Last week, the Irish Catholic Bishops's Conference released a 16-page manifesto outlining the chruch's opposition to same-sex marriage.

Watch a report on the opening of the October synod, AFTER THE JUMP...

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Tony Perkins Wants You to Know that the Pope Is Still Firmly Against Gay Marriage: VIDEO

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FRC hate leader Tony Perkins recently had a chat with Fox News correspondent Tucker Carlson about Perkins' visit to the Vatican last week for the Pope's discussion on the state of marriage and the family. Perkins was joined at the summit by a number of other anti-gay Christian leaders, as well as representatives from 13 other religions.

Hoping to quash any rumblings that the Pope was changing his tune on marriage, Perkins said in part:

"The Pope was very clear on this, that children have a right to grow up in a home with a father and a mother...Marriage and family are in crisis. And that's not just an American problem, it's a global problem. And so we have a responsibility to do something to give the best possible environment for children to grow up in and that's a mom and a dad...This is not just an issue for the church. We had 14 different religions - taoism, jainism, all these different religions that don't have any theological elements in common, but they have a common understanding of what marriage is because it's rooted in nature. It's rooted in the order of creation."

"Of course," Carlson agreed. 

Watch, AFTER THE JUMP...

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Is Pope Francis Sending Ambiguous Messages About Marriage And Family?

PopePope Francis kicked off the Vatican's "traditional marriage" summit this week with a discussion on the state of marriage and the family in today's world - with some potentially mixed messages. In Francis' address, “The Complementarity of Man and Woman in Marriage,” he reinforces the idea of marriage and family, but it seems he might also be ambiguously referring to gay couples in several passages throughout the commentary, or at least one could deduce that he is from particular words used.

The basis of the address is based on the term "Complementarity," which means "situations where one of two things adds to, completes, or fulfills a lack in the other.” However, Francis puts the word in a Christian context.

He says:

"Christians find its deepest meaning in the first Letter to the Corinthians where Saint Paul tells us that the Spirit has endowed each of us with different gifts so that-just as the human body's members work together for the good of the whole-everyone's gifts can work together for the benefit of each (cf. 1 Cor. 12)."

Francis explains that the complementarity between women and men is the root of marriage and family, but the only other explicit mention of specific pairings between men and women doesn't occur until the very end of the address. Francis also seems to challenge traditional gender roles and recognize the suffering of women.

He continues:

"When we speak of complementarity between man and woman in this context, let us not confuse that term with the simplistic idea that all the roles and relations of the two sexes are fixed in a single, static pattern.

"Evidence is mounting that the decline of the marriage culture is associated with increased poverty and a host of other social ills, disproportionately affecting women, children and the elderly. It is always they who suffer the most in this crisis."

It's unclear what social ills Francis is referring to but with his support for civil unions and taking responsibility for sexual abuse scandals within the church, Francis' views on LGBT people and the church makes him the most progressive, socially responsible pope to take office thus far. The most telling passage of Francis' commentary is the discussion of future generations and the trappings of ideological concepts.

He says:

"It is important that they do not give themselves over to the poisonous mentality of the temporary, but rather be revolutionaries with the courage to seek true and lasting love, going against the common pattern: this must be done. With regard to this I want to say one thing: Let us not fall into the trap of being qualified by ideological concepts.

"Family is an anthropological fact - a socially and culturally related fact. We cannot qualify it with concepts of an ideological nature, that are relevant only in a single moment of history, and then pass by. We can't speak today of a conservative notion of family or a progressive notion of family: Family is family! It can't be qualified by ideological notions. Family has a strength of its own (per se)."

However, Francis ends his address with a reinforcement about marriage between men and women as a natural, unique and fundamental good, and it's unclear whether the statement about ideological trappings means Francis is willing to think beyond religious dogma, is just a simple contradiction on his behalf or an attempt to find a delicate balance between traditional ideological teachings and empathy toward the plights of LGBT people. Additionally, the fact that he invited hate leader Tony Perkins to the summit seems damaging to both his and the summit's credibility. 


Anti-Gay Hate Leader Tony Perkins Attends Catholic Conference On 'Traditional Marriage' - VIDEO

Tony Perkins, the president of anti-gay listed hate group Family Research Council (FRC), is to take part in a Catholic church summit on “traditional marriage” this week, reports Right Wing Watch.

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The conference comes just weeks after a meeting of Catholic bishops failed to provide clarity on the church's stance on homosexuality.

Due to start today, the "Complementarity of Man and Woman” conference - hosted by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, formerly known as the Inquisition - will include leaders from various other faiths including Judaism, Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism and Sikhism.

Organizers aim to "examine and propose anew the beauty of the relationship between the man and the woman, in order to support and reinvigorate marriage and family life for the flourishing of human society.”

Although not listed as a speaker, Perkins plans to attend the conference in Rome and expects the Catholic Church to provide “clarity” to the confusion coming out of the recent synod in relation to same-sex marriage.

Ensuring that the U.S. "export of hate" continues, Southern Baptist Convention’s Russell Moore and pastor Rick Warren are also listed as conference attendees. 

Continuing the church’s Christian message of inclusiveness and love, the conference will also include Nicholas Okoh, the Anglican Archbishop of Nigeria who has strongly voiced support for the country's severe anti-gay law.

Despite claims by some that Francis is a reforming pope with a somewhat liberal agenda, he will nonetheless address the conference and preside over its first morning session today.

Watch an official trailer for the conference, which pointedly entirely fails to recognize the existence of same-sex marriage, AFTER THE JUMP...

Last June, speaking about the Colorado bakery that was repeatedly found to have discriminated against gay customers, offensive wingnut Perkins suggested that such cases are one step further down the road to the inevitable anti-Christian Holocaust.

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Pope Francis Demotes Anti-gay U.S. Cardinal Raymond Burke: VIDEO

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As anticipated, Pope Francis has removed anti-gay U.S. cardinal Raymond Burke from his position as head of the Vatican's "Supreme Court."

Burke has been a vocal supporter of keeping social issues a primary focus of the Catholic Church, going so far as to say that discrimination against LGBT people is "perfectly just and good."

TIME reports:

The pontiff removed Cardinal Raymond Burke as the leader of the Vatican’s highest court and appointed him to a ceremonial position as chaplain of the Knights of Malta, a charity group, according to a press bulletin issued Saturday.

That is a significant demotion, according to the National Catholic Reporter. “The position of Patron of the the Order of Malta is usually given to a retired cardinal, or as a second task to an active cardinal,” Michael Sean Winters writes. “It has almost no responsibilities.”

The Associated Press adds:

Francis has said that church hierarchy should not focus so much on abortion and same-sex marriage but instead concentrate on making the church a more welcoming place. Meanwhile, Burke has said to a Catholic broadcaster that "we can never talk enough" against abortion and same-sex marriage.

He has also questioned Francis' denunciation of excesses of capitalism.

Watch Burke explain why it's "perfectly good and just" to discriminate against gay people, AFTER THE JUMP...

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Gay People, Pope Francis Will Win By Losing Catholic Church Battle For LGBT Inclusion - VIDEO

6a00d8341c730253ef01b7c6f551d6970b-250wiWriting for the Washington Post, Jonathan Capehart has argued that although conservative bishops may have won a battle last week when they voted against language that spoke of “welcoming homosexual persons” into the Catholic church, they have not won the bigger battle with Pope Francis.

Following protests from conservative bishops, the Vatican last week backtracked on reports that it had planned to be “welcoming to homosexual persons.”

However, according to Capehart, although headlines called it a “setback,” “the pope let the genie out of the bottle. And, as we all know, it’s difficult to put him back in once released.”

6a00d8341c730253ef01bb079d3a5e970d-800wiHe continues:

“What the synod did at the outset on paper, Pope Francis has been doing since ascending to the papacy. He’s been talking about gays and lesbians in the Catholic Church with an unheard-of humanity and care.

“I found it interesting that Francis insisted not only on publicizing the vote tallies for each paragraph, but also which paragraphs failed to pass. The pope said he was doing it for transparency. And that’s great. The added benefit to such openness is the signal it sends the entire church. If the pope and the bishops can engage in a rational and respectful discussion about same-sex relationships, so can the rest of the flock. That’s the genie that is out of the bottle.

“As Francis said [on October 19th] during his homily, ‘God is not afraid of new things! That is why he is continually surprising us, opening our hearts and guiding us in unexpected ways.’ By the time the bishops reconvene next October to finalize the synod document, we might be looking at a very different outcome.

“I’m not saying the church or the pope will become a champion of LGBT rights. And I’m definitely not saying they are going to support marriage equality. What I am saying is that by talking about the humanity of gay and lesbian Catholics and worrying about their place in the church, Pope Francis is openly recognizing them as children of God. After centuries of demonization, that’s a revolutionary act that can’t be undone.”

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