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Pope Attacks Gay Marriage in Christmas Address

PopeclergyPope Benedict XVI, in a Christmas address to the Rome clergy, took the opportunity to slam both gay and unmarried couples. He warned that mankind would destroy its own identity should it follow theories which place same-sex couples at the same level as husband and wife, theories "according to which man should be able to decide autonomously what he is and what he isn't."

He added that supporting same-sex marriage "tacitly accredits those dismal theories that strip all relevance from the masculinity and femininity of the human being as though it were a purely biological issue."

The Pope defended his right to speak out about the relationships as tensions rise in the Italian parliament and between the Vatican and Italian Prime Minister Romano Prodi, who has pledged to fulfill a campaign promising civil partnership rights for both same-sex and unmarried couples. Said Benedict: "I cannot hide my concern about legislation on de facto couples...if they say the Church shouldn't interfere in these matters, then we can only reply: should mankind perhaps not interest us?"

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  1. Pope Maledict should just shut his yap about other people's lives and tend to his own, shall we say, unsubstantiated rumors.

    Posted by: Ed | Dec 22, 2006 11:35:40 AM

  2. Why can't that idiot Pope Bentdick just keep his yap shut? It's bad enough to hear this crap all yer long, but at a time when he should be celebrating a joyous event he feels the need to stir up hate.

    Posted by: patrick nyc | Dec 22, 2006 11:51:08 AM

  3. WHAT?! This coming fom those white men who are so tolerant of us gays??

    Posted by: forreal | Dec 22, 2006 11:54:11 AM

  4. This is the Christian Church that promoted manifest destiny and the Papal Bulls that declared all non-whites are sub-human and okay to kill, enslave, torture, and take their riches, lands, and resources. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!

    Posted by: David Michael | Dec 22, 2006 11:54:32 AM

  5. Thus spake the evil emperor.

    Honestly though, is anyone at all surprised by this? Benedict's rants about moral purity are becoming so tiresome that they've almost lost all meaning. I'm reminded of the teacher's voice from the old Charlie Brown cartoons... Miss Othmar, I think her name was...


    Posted by: Brian | Dec 22, 2006 11:58:23 AM

  6. Is this the same church (or cult) that said nothing during the rise of fasism in their own country during World War II nor said anything or did anything when the Jews and Gays were sent to concentration camp?

    Was this the same cult who ignored for years their own priest molesting children and rather then protect the children just moved the priest from different churches?

    Doesn't the Bible state that we are to kill our first born child? Doesn't the Bible state that we are not to be near a women who is on their period for five days and that the woman is not allow to leave the house while on their period? And doesn't the Bible give us the right to kill your own children who is disrespectful to their parents?

    And lastly, what right does the church have to question who one loves, as long as they are adults? As i have been saying for years the church isn't about love it is about hate and pointing fingers at those who are not like them. Peace and Love? Yea, right.

    Posted by: DAWSON | Dec 22, 2006 11:58:29 AM

  7. Oh, so I've autonomously decided to be gay, have I? I think Matthew at "Boy Culture" put this wonderfully a day or two ago: "I think the term 'sexual preference' is a joke... We prefer the sex we prefer in the same way we prefer to breathe, eat, feel joy and fall in love."

    Posted by: Greg | Dec 22, 2006 12:07:09 PM

  8. Yes we gays are so much more difficult to accept than a virgin getting knocked up by a ghost.

    Posted by: mark m | Dec 22, 2006 12:21:16 PM

  9. A former Nazi criticizing gays and lesbians? Why am I not surprised?

    Posted by: Karim | Dec 22, 2006 12:47:23 PM

  10. Like I'm going to listen to that shriveled old jealous dude. Why doesn't he go back to playing CandyLand with his choir boys?

    Posted by: homer | Dec 22, 2006 1:09:29 PM

  11. What the hell do you expect him to say? It's his club and we're not welcome in it. I guess the approval of any man wearing Prada shoes is a commodity.

    Posted by: 000000 | Dec 22, 2006 1:40:48 PM

  12. Only a religious wingnut could say that a "purely biological issue" is "stripped of all relevance." Biological issues are *much* more relevant than, say, spiritual ones.

    Posted by: Gander | Dec 22, 2006 1:44:04 PM

  13. I grew up in a very stricked Roman Catholic household. My education was catholic from kindergarten thru college. I never thought that one day I would come to turn my back on my own religion. However, given the numerous scandals (and we had them in my school just like you read in the papers), the church's stance on homosexuality, I chose to leave the church and it's crazy people.

    In no way can I imagine that my God would ever 'create' anything he didn't mean to create. In no way can I imagine that my God would ever teach us to exclude others---for ANY reason. Finally, in no way can I imagine that my God would ever want me to be anything other than who I am. In my case, a gay man.

    Posted by: TP | Dec 22, 2006 1:51:56 PM

  14. "should mankind perhaps not interest us?",
    When was the last time the Vatican had any further interest in mankind other than to control it?
    Where was the Vatican when natural disastors and man made attrocities occured on this planet?
    Ah was more important to them that they save their riches and let those in need starve.
    Imagine how many children could be fead for the price of those Prada shoes.

    "interest in mankind"?...yeah only interest they have is to dominate.

    'karim'...former nazi?...looks like he's still showing his reich too me.

    Posted by: griffin1573 | Dec 22, 2006 2:00:54 PM

  15. "tacitly accredits those dismal theories that strip all relevance from the masculinity and femininity of the human being as though it were a purely biological issue."

    But isn't that what the church is suggesting? Penis=man=masculine=sex with woman, uterus=woman=feminine=sex with men. Is he suggesting all men are born with a masculine, heterosexual spirit? This seems to go against previous arguments that homosexuality went "against nature," since nature would inherently suggest a biological order of some sort.

    Posted by: burnssuit | Dec 22, 2006 2:17:07 PM

  16. "...if they say the Church shouldn't interfere in these matters, then we can only reply: should mankind perhaps not interest us?...Oh, and by the way, don't you think that red Prada shoes are da bomb?"

    Posted by: basis4insanity | Dec 22, 2006 2:24:53 PM

  17. I am a Masculine Gay Man & I am Proud of it. I am not proud of this Re. I agree with all written & TP spoke words I would have written.
    Have a Great Gay Holiday Season Filled With Love & Joy with Lovers, Friends & Family! Party Hard but Safely.

    Posted by: ter | Dec 22, 2006 2:29:00 PM

  18. TER-

    Think you bring it home nicely. If we focus on our good fortune (family, friends, etc..) and tune out all the negativity (true source of evil) that surrounds us in every day life we will all have a happy a joyful holiday season.

    Best to everyone on this site who makes it such a fun read each day.

    Posted by: TP | Dec 22, 2006 2:35:05 PM

  19. I am a gay man who is neither overly masculine or feminine and I am proud of it. I'm not sure I understood Ter's post at all. Re?

    Posted by: Daniel | Dec 22, 2006 5:34:47 PM

  20. I give no offence but was only comenting on the Papal coment "tacitly accredits those dismal theories that strip all relevance from the masculinity and femininity of the human being as though it were a purely biological issue."
    I was just trying to say & maybe poorly that the Masculinity & femininity of the human is not purely biological. I am not just a biological issue. I am a gay man & should correct my coment on being masculine as if I were excluding my feminine for in reality I as all humans posses both the masculine & the feminine. Thank you for your reflective comments TP & Danial.
    Hope this may clarify my thoughts. Again enjoy the season with love. The Best!

    Posted by: ter | Dec 22, 2006 6:40:00 PM

  21. The Pope is afraid mankind might figure out reliion is only inplace to control people. Let's talk about what is REALLY destroying mankind. Let's talk about what has killed more people "in the name of god" than all wars combined.

    Posted by: Vincent | Dec 22, 2006 7:14:21 PM

  22. Well Vincent I can see your point but I am finishing rapping presents for sister & neices for Chr-day. So I guise I am not ready to take on your need to take on Rel. But something I have learned as I have been with 100 of dying men & women "I never took away that which sustained them to death if I didn't have something better to offer them. And frankly all I have ever been able to do I love each & every person with my heart & let them be at peace as they died.
    Just a personal moment. I now need to finish the rapping to give my family loving gifts for Christmas. The best to all.

    Posted by: ter | Dec 22, 2006 7:34:12 PM

  23. you say the Pope is slamming gay and unmarried couples. The man isn't slamming anybody. Read his words. Doesn't he have the right to speak?? apparently in this blog's opinion he doesn't. Because you don't agree with him, do you have the right to slam him. Why do most of these comments have to resort to name calling....

    Posted by: rob | Dec 22, 2006 8:19:35 PM


    Posted by: ter | Dec 22, 2006 8:40:38 PM

  25. By chance, was Mr. Ratzinger wearing his ermine-lined cape and oh-so-fabulous red Prada shoes at his gay bashing ceremony? Just wondering.

    Posted by: ELREY | Dec 22, 2006 10:44:46 PM

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