04/09/2007
News: Roseanne Barr, Condoms, Solomon Islands, Ptown
West Village condom shop Condomania shuts after 16 years.
One of our favorite Provincetown haunts, the Atlantic House, was shut down this weekend after a little bit of a raw sewage spill. Let's hope they get it cleaned up before the season starts.
Patricia Todd, Alabama's first openly gay legislator, says she's more than a one-issue lawmaker: "I like to say I'm a representative that happens to be gay. I'm not the gay representative."
An undercover spy reports from inside the new Abercrombie & Fitch London store: "The interview room at the Abercrombie & Fitch headquarters was packed. The woman interrogator asked which three words I'd use to describe myself. I repeated what the girl before me had said 'I'm approachable and friendly'. My interviewer smiled and wrote this down. She informed us that the company had a 'tagline' which we would have to use when greeting customers. She explained, very seriously, that it was, 'Hello, how are you?' 'How did you come up with that?' I asked. She said a company of marketing consultants had worked intensively at developing it. They wanted to audition me to see if I could deliver the line - this was make or break. 'Hello, how are you?!' I said clearly. 'Very good' she reassured me."
The recent major earthquakes have sent the Solomon Islands three meters out of the sea: "Corals that used to form an underwater wonderland of iridescent blues, greens and reds now bleach under the sun, transforming into a barren moonscape surrounding the island."
Roseanne Barr says gays and Evangelicals operate from the same place: "Never once in my 54 years have I ever once heard a gay or lesbian person who’s politically active say one thing about anything that was not about them. They don’t care about minimum wage, they don’t care about any other group other than their own self because you know, some people say being gay and lesbian is a totally narcissistic thing and sometimes I wonder. I’ve never heard any of them say anything except for 'accept me ‘cause I’m gay.' It’s just, it’s screwed. It’s no different than the evangelicals, it’s the same mindset. They want you to accept Jesus and you guys want us to all believe it’s ok to be gay. And a lot of us, a lot of them, I do, I don’t give a damn who anybody has sex with, as long as they’re not underage and an animal. I don’t give a damn, it’s none of my damn business. I’m just sick of all the divisiveness, it’s not getting any of us anywhere."
Futureworld: UK Ministry of Defence issues grim prediction.
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Comments
Ooooo, Rosanne's gonna get it.
Posted by: Jeff | Apr 9, 2007 7:08:46 PM
Ooooo, but Rosanne's got a point...
Posted by: RB | Apr 9, 2007 7:19:43 PM
I'm concerned about all those issues, but the main issue with me are gay issues, simply because I'm gay. If a shark is eating my left leg, I'm not gonna hit at the right leg to make it go away.
BUT, since when has Roseanne been concerned with anything other than Roseanne.
Hello pot, this is kettle.
Posted by: Bobby | Apr 9, 2007 7:23:18 PM
Identity politics are a bore -- Roseanne is RIGHT.
Posted by: Becks07 | Apr 9, 2007 7:38:35 PM
Yes, she's sort of right, however, if gay men and women aren't focused on issues that impact us, who would????
Posted by: hoya86 | Apr 9, 2007 7:38:37 PM
yeah, that's like saying in the 60's "They don’t care about minimum wage, they don’t care about any other group other than their own self because you know, some people say being black is a totally narcissistic thing and sometimes I wonder."
And we care about Barr's opinion because.....?
Posted by: Trey | Apr 9, 2007 7:49:25 PM
I don't know what gay people Roseanne hangs out with but most of my gay friends hardly ever talk about being gay.
Posted by: Boobs | Apr 9, 2007 7:51:41 PM
So Roseanne hasn't heard about Barney Frank trying to increase the minimum wage? Or that the head of the ACLU is gay?
Martin Mull and Sandra Bernhardt need to bitch slap her.
Posted by: RP | Apr 9, 2007 7:57:08 PM
I do wonder how many gay guys would be right wing Republicans, if they weren't gay and/or were being wooed by the GOP. I've met way to many gay guys that have thinly-veiled issues with African Americans, immigrants, women and the poor. Not to say that all gays have to be of the same mindset, but I do think that there are plenty of gays whose only difference with the Gingriches and Roves is a disagreement over gay rights.
Posted by: rafinsf | Apr 9, 2007 8:02:50 PM
I love it--celebrities are the most narcissistic people in the world--and Rosanne thinks the whole world revolves around her ass and here she is lecturing on the minimum wage. She used to treat the people who worked for her like shit--she just opens her mouth and crap comes flying out.
Posted by: daniel | Apr 9, 2007 8:06:59 PM
I guess all of that money I donated to land preservation and child abuse centers doesn't really count.
Posted by: homer | Apr 9, 2007 8:09:52 PM
Rafinsf has a point. A lot of my Gay friends are pretty conservative when it comes to some issues such as immigration and racial issues.
I think Rosanne has a point. A point that's not easy to hear but a point non the less.
Posted by: db | Apr 9, 2007 8:14:20 PM
Aberzombie and B*tch is the worst. I make a point of NOT buying anything from them. I'd rather do almost any other store that 'specializes' in artfully 'distressed' clothes. Without having to overpay for anything.
And Roseanne may have a point. We do tend to be a little self-centered. More open than your average dogmatic, backward wingnut, but self-centered nonetheless.
Posted by: xavier | Apr 9, 2007 8:23:15 PM
What group isn't concerned about themselves? She does have a point, but maybe she needs to mention women's groups, Hispanics, etc. etc. etc.
Although, maybe people would take me seriously if I had a show called "John" and it was all about my blue-collar life. That's not self-centered, is it?
Posted by: John Hodgins | Apr 9, 2007 8:26:18 PM
I dont see how Roseanne can possibly say that when she knows Rosie ODonnell. Up until recently, she barely mentioned being gay and focused almost completely on the foster care system in America.
Posted by: Kit | Apr 9, 2007 8:30:27 PM
I don't know in USA but in Spain there are many gay people who spend time like volonteers and even gay activists come from other activism areas. I think this woman is an ignorant. Sorry for my bad English.
Posted by: Fernando | Apr 9, 2007 8:35:11 PM
Roseanne is just engaging in her typically ludicrous attention-getting behavior. I won't even stick up for gays, because I don't have to. I'll stick up for evangelicals (even though I hate many of them), because fair is fair. Evangelicals are not single-issue activists or voters. They espouse plenty of issues---abortion limits, gun rights, lower taxes---that have nothing to do with Jesus or the Bible. Their views may be abhorrent to some (hopefully most) gays, but they do not care solely about Jesus. It's a precursor: if you love Jesus, you should live and feel this way. And as gays, who have been on the receiving end of their vitriol, we naturally start from our gayness---then in most cases develop views that mirror a liberal, tolerant mindset. To claim that either group cares about just one thing is inane.
And more important, who gives a crap what Roseanne says anyway?
Posted by: Paul H. | Apr 9, 2007 8:53:11 PM
I think Roseanne's so wrong. I've fought harder and longer for all sorts of rights than glbt rights - and so have a lot of my friends and allies.
Posted by: Ryan | Apr 9, 2007 8:56:46 PM
RB, what point would it be that Rosanne has?
Posted by: Zeke | Apr 9, 2007 8:58:36 PM
Everyone who's primarily cool with gay people throws a fit like this once or twice along the way. If Bette Midler did it, and got over it, anyone can.
But Roseanne, honey, can I introduce you please to Bayard Rustin, Dag Hammerskold, Raoul Wallenstein, James Baldwin? It's circular argument to say gay people only care about coming out safely when gay people still can't come out safely and stay in their professions. Hello?
That's okay, though. You don't hate us like Don Imus and George Bush and Dickhead Cheney, you've proved that years ago. You just said something stupid and unsupported by the facts.
Posted by: bambambam | Apr 9, 2007 9:16:47 PM
RafinSF, all you have to do is look at the number of Log Cabin repugs to get an idea. I disagree with any 'single issue' voting. While I want to be able to marry the man I want to, not have to worry about my job, healthcare, etc. I do agree that there are much more pressing issues in America.
Posted by: gayjaybird | Apr 9, 2007 9:20:47 PM
Mark, if you'd meet gay people outside of the bath houses you might be surprised at how many other things, besides gay rights, that we are involved with. I know you're a troll so that's the last morsel you'll get from me. Enjoy!
I'm sorry for those of you who don't know gay people that aren't self-centered hedonists. I think it says more about you (birds of a feather flock together) and who you hang out with than it does about gay people in general.
Posted by: Zeke | Apr 9, 2007 9:46:45 PM
If the stigma and discrimination from Heteros would go away then we wouldn't have to worry about gay rights would we? Sick of people defending their right to live freely? Use one of your personalities and take it out on some str8 people Roseanne.
Posted by: Mike | Apr 9, 2007 9:56:14 PM
Zeke, DB and RAFINSF comments on Roseanne speak to her better than I. I am just saying that sometimes the best information is that which you do not want to hear. We have to be open to the good, the bad and the ugly.
Posted by: RB | Apr 9, 2007 9:56:56 PM
Roseanne hon, which personality was this speaking?
Posted by: Ed | Apr 9, 2007 10:15:48 PM
Maybe she should stick to stuffing her face with twinkies instead of making stupid ass generalized statements. Like one of the above posters said. She knows Rosie so how the fuck has she never heard a gay or lesbian person talk about anything other than the gay community. Rosie sticks up for a lot of shit so what the hell?
Posted by: Tear | Apr 9, 2007 10:27:59 PM
Not enough gay men and women are out of the closet to give a wider perspective, at least as far as the major media are concerned.
Posted by: anon | Apr 9, 2007 10:39:47 PM
Roseanne Barr should realize that gay people had to fight for their rights. Evangelicals have never had to fight for the right to be evangelical.
Posted by: jane | Apr 9, 2007 11:33:20 PM
Roseanne, not many gays lie and tell the world that our parents are incestious child molesters and then try to forget that it was ever said.
Posted by: Norm | Apr 9, 2007 11:41:44 PM
Wow, wouldn’t have expected you to agree with two people who stated that they agreed with Rosanne because they felt that a lot of gays were “racist conservatives” or "right-wing Republicans" under the surface.
Frankly I don’t think either of their comments addressed what Rosanne was saying. Try reading her quotes again and notice all the superlatives and absolutes she uses: “NEVER ONCE”, “EVER ONCE”, “THEY”, “THEM”, “ANYTHING”, “NEVER”, “ANY OF THEM”, “ANYTHING”. Read it again and think about what she is saying.
I would certainly hope that you know at least a couple of people that prove her broad, all-encompassing statements wrong. I hope you know at least one.
And why does she have such a bur under her saddle for gays? Why do gays get singled out for her rant? Are we MORE selfish than other minorities who are fighting for equality and acceptance? Are we more selfish than the average straight person who takes for granted that the world revolves around them and their relationships?
And WHAT exactly has Rosanne done to earn herself the right to sit in judgment of ANYONE? What charity or issue has she championed? Has she EVER done anything for anyone OTHER than Rosanne? If so she certainly hides it well. She has got to be one of the MOST selfish, self-centered, narcissistic people in America.
Next thing you know she’ll be giving us marriage advice and parenting advice since she has about as much authority to speak on those issues as she does about gay selfishness.
Posted by: Zeke | Apr 9, 2007 11:44:48 PM
She's right about one thing: We need to stop with the divisiveness in the world.
Too bad she's only contributing to it with statements like that one.
Posted by: Will | Apr 9, 2007 11:54:49 PM
MOST gays would be Republicans? Gays ONLY talk about themselves and aren't concerned with anything else? I'm gay--I support a FULL Democratic/Liberal agenda. I donate and work and march for causes as diverse as animal rights and breast cancer. Do all gay/lesbian people? Probably not. Do all straight people? Probably not. We're no different than anyone else. There is no GAY agenda. No GAY right or wrong. We all have opinions, preferences and lives that are unique. And if we speak about LGBT causes, maybe it's because so many people in this country want to take our rights as citizens away. If we were simply left alone, maybe we'd shut up. Did that ever occur to Barr?
I used to like Roseanne, but she's a pathertic, narcissistic has-been who can't bear being out of the spotlight. And she has the nerve to call us self-centered?
Posted by: Nathan | Apr 10, 2007 12:02:12 AM
I'm getting off of the Roseanne topic...
A-house....after going there since 1979(and living there for 7 years) I know that the water table and the bay are both affected and the sewage is right there(that's why most people have that title nine septic tank installed before they sell..I believe it's a law)....the land mass extends to far into the water(or people build right on the bay land mass) and therefore if there are high tides this oftens happens..especially in the west end...and I can remember many times this happening in the A house...no big deal
Posted by: tc | Apr 10, 2007 12:28:58 AM
Roseanne's comments are ignorant. Ellen helped out with reconstruction of New Orleans after Katrina. John Barrowman is an advocat for animal rights. The list goes on.
Patricia Todd is making the usual statement to calm voters' nerves that they elected a legislator whose only concern is her group. I think she'll do a good job and will be reelected.
Posted by: Jack! | Apr 10, 2007 12:28:58 AM
Let's tell Glaad and Rosie.
Posted by: Chris | Apr 10, 2007 12:45:13 AM
I think the opposite from Roseanne. Gays don't have enough faith in gay rights, cause if a greater number was rallying for it (like the evangelicals are increasingly rallying against it) there would be no way we'd still be struggling for rights like we are now.
"Luckily" the attacks we've been subjected to lately have revived the flame of the movement, and we have the naysayers to thank for this.
Posted by: Rob | Apr 10, 2007 12:53:35 AM
Surprising coments from Roseanne since she has two gay siblings...
Posted by: FidBit | Apr 10, 2007 1:30:47 AM
I'm trying hard not to be cynical or cut down other gay men, but i absolutely agree with Roseanne. Finding other gay men who are pro-feminist, anti-racist, and anti-capitalist is the exception. Most gay men i encounter have no concept of radical queer or liberation theory and are more interested in Paris Hilton and Ambercrombie and Fitch.
Posted by: deahrock | Apr 10, 2007 2:54:18 AM
Uh, generalize much, Roseanne?
Evangelicals come from hatred, fire and brimstone, gays don't emanate hate.
I wonder if Roseanne would say the same thing during the CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT were only about one thing: EQUALITY. I guess therefore she should say it's wrong to want equality for race because you're only concerned about one thing.
Or how about people that do nothing but go on about their religion? Roseanne won't let her kids date a non-Jew.
I find that divisive and separatist.
Posted by: Louie | Apr 10, 2007 3:53:11 AM
Roseanne should realize that 33 states still allow discrimination against gay people in things like housing, employment, hospital visitation rights etc. When the playing field isn't even, as a taxpayer I am damn well entitled to feel passionate about my gay rights. Go jump, Roseanne.
Posted by: marjorie mistletoe | Apr 10, 2007 7:08:04 AM
This is an absolutely ridiculous blanket statement. Pure definition of over generalization.
There are many, many gays and lesbians who are fighting in the trenches, in their state and country, every day to advance other causes besides working to make sure that we achieve equal rights.
Check out Victory Fund, which supports gay candidates across the country running for office. There are far too many of us already elected for her to even think about making that statement. I know one, Del. Adam Ebbin from Virginia, would certainly disagree.
As for those that do not make it their priority to advance other causes: who cares? There are other groups like the NAACP, the Latino Leadership PAC, 80-20 (the largest Asian-American PAC) and many different Judeo-Christian PACs that try to advance their platforms. What makes our political action committees any different?
Posted by: Sean | Apr 10, 2007 7:14:41 AM
I just could not believe she was saying this so I HAD to listen to the whole interview (Thanks for the link andy)
And damn her she was not doing an Imus joke she was having a DISCUSSION and this does trouble me.
Let the comedienne stick to her insult comedy.
Rosanne you need to meet some more gay people cause you just dont know nuttin.
Posted by: MCnNYC | Apr 10, 2007 8:21:08 AM
rosanne had a great sitch-comedy show at one time, with her character informed by her lo-class trailer upbringing.
that was a slice of time, but these days she is of absolutely no consequence.
we should not expect informed opinions or genuine intelligence to flow out of that crude pie-hole.
Posted by: A.J. | Apr 10, 2007 9:26:00 AM
^^ Um, just for the record, that is not me... the Mark M who has been posting here for months. Dude, get a new moniker. I was here first :)
Oh, and to clarify.. Roseanne is simply saying that anyone who doesn't care about what SHE cares about is self centered.
And that totally makes her UN-self centered.
Yeah...right.
Posted by: mark m | Apr 10, 2007 10:19:37 AM
Her comment is sort of like when people say, "why are gays always so flamboyant and swishy?" Simple answer: because you don't notice the gays who don't fit your preconceived stereotype, therefore they don't make an impression on your narrow-minded consciousness. Why don't gays talk about economic issues or climate change or the McCain-Feingold Campaign Finance Reform Act or whatever? Because nobody ever says, "as a gay man, I think it's important that we regulate arsenic in our drinking water." I care about the Iraq occupation, and civil rights, and pollution, etc., but when I have something to say about them, I don't step up on my gay soapbox to talk, I just talk.
And, as much as I am loath to defend evangelicals, Roseanne was wrong about them, too.
Posted by: John T | Apr 10, 2007 11:07:15 AM
Mark M, thanks for the clarification.
I knew that last comment didn't come from you.
I have a suspicion that a simple IP address trace would take you to the same computer that "Mark" is using.
Posted by: Zeke | Apr 10, 2007 11:10:03 AM
Roseanne is being ignorant. Anyone who looks at Queerfilter will find plenty of gay people blogging about politics every day from all quarters of the spectrum.
Posted by: John C | Apr 10, 2007 11:37:25 AM
"Melissa", aka "Mark" aka "Mark M" (the fake one) aka about ten other names used by the same commenter; if you are simply posting your honest opinion and NOT trolling, as you so passionately proclaim, then why the need to post your opinions under ten different names registered to the same computer?
Posted by: Zeke | Apr 10, 2007 12:06:42 PM
Roseanne Barr is certainly the "pot" calling the "kettle" black given that she's the most selfish, self-serving, insecure narcissist I've ever had the displeasure of crossing paths with in my entire life. Roseanne should stop projecting her own personality flaws on others and learn to mitigate and overcome her own selfishness need to get attention by pointing fingers at others accusing them of acting like she herself does all the time...
Posted by: Robert In WeHo | Apr 10, 2007 12:07:05 PM
Wow. Im just REALLY surprised by some of the comments here. I have no clue what homosexuals Roseanne knows but of the politically outspoken gay men and women I have known they have supported and rallied for issues as women's rights, equality for minorities and civil rights around the world, and against the continuation of the war in Iraq. Who the hell does she think makes up a good amount of protesters? Johnny the southern baptist quarterback!? From how I see it homosexuals and minorities have been more inclined to be involved in multiple political issues than most conservatives.
And for the record, things like healthcare, social security, taxes, wages, etc WILL ALWAYS BE ISSUES. I love how people have this 2D view on the world as if all the economists and the rest of the nation drops what they are doing because civil rights legislation is being proposed. MY GOD! Dont you remember the last time you couldnt get your paycheck, your stock dropped, and you lost your retirement and healthcare benefits because civil unions became legal 5 states away from you!?
Posted by: Toto | Apr 10, 2007 12:38:29 PM
"IP checks? Please, get a life and realize, not every gay person is only obssed with gay life, A&F bois, hair and beauty products."
Funny, Zeke, I don't see anywhere in your post where you equate IP checks with bois and beauty products.
I believe you were making the point about trolls who post under different names in order to create the illustion that there are many with their point of view, when in fact, it's usually just a very loud and lonely one.
Oh and you left out "Amanda."
Posted by: mark m | Apr 10, 2007 1:26:07 PM
NOTE TO COMMENTERS:
Feel free to express your opinion about the posted topic as long as you do so in a civil, non-offensive manner.
If you choose to use the comment section as a forum to launch personal attacks on one another, you will lose your commenting privileges.
Sorry to be so schoolmarm about it, but the continual bile that is spewed at one another in the comment sections is getting out of hand, and ruins it for everyone else.
Posted by: andy | Apr 10, 2007 1:31:47 PM
roseanne, have another Ding-Dong.
Posted by: sean | Apr 10, 2007 1:46:25 PM
Roseanne has a very valid point, albeit said somewhat generally.
Andy has a very valid point, said somewhat precisely accurate.
And no, I'm not that Mark, but who cares...
Posted by: mark | Apr 10, 2007 3:15:55 PM
Somewhat generally?
There was nothing "somewhat" general about Rosanne's screed.
And even if there are some people who are all about gay rights 24/7/365, so what? Who else is going to fight for justice for gay people if gay people don't? Perhaps if we had a little bit more support from the non-gay world, some people wouldn't need to spend their every waking hour working so hard and being so single-minded.
I still don't understand why she singled out gay people for her rant and I still don't know what qualifies her, of ALL people, to judge ANYONE'S supposed selfishness.
I found her morally and ethically equating people who are fighting for their rights with those who are fighting to deny rights to a group of people particularly disgusting and offensive.
Honestly, has Rosanne EVER done ANYTHING for ANYONE other than Rosanne?
No, seriously, I'm asking. Does anyone have a list of her many pet charities and what she has done for them? Does anyone have the inside scoop on her selfless acts of kindness?
Posted by: Zeke | Apr 10, 2007 3:55:13 PM
I cannot believe Roseanne Barr's head is shoved that far up her own ass. If she were an out gay man, there wouldn't have been a sitcom or stand up comedy career. No producer (gay or straight) would have taken it on. Most gay actor's reason for being in the closet is not their audience, but the powers that be in Hollywood. Rupert Everett is an extreme example and a token. If Tom Cruise came out, his career would change dramatically. No how, no way, would any producer or studio cast him in a blockbuster... He would have to start an entirely new career and in the beginning, aside from John Waters, no one would dream of casting him in a romantic/hero/lead. (Gay people CAN'T be THAT)!
Posted by: Todd Terrific | Apr 10, 2007 4:10:05 PM
She's talking about white gay people, as are most of the posters here. White people are so self-centered they rarely, if ever, qualify their generalized statements to even acknowledge the rest of us exist. If this were posted at Keith Boykin's or Jasmyne Cannick's sites, it would make no sense.
Posted by: carla | Apr 10, 2007 5:13:33 PM
well, old school Roseanne used to be really good at portraying and addressing issues of working class women in her early stand up routines and episodes of her show. As someone who grew up poor, this was a really empowering, validating, and exicting perspective to see, especially in the mainstream media. Now, she's not so much with the working class. Anyhow, i don't see gay rights as being mutually exclusive to other types of civil rights or struggles for equality, but I don't identify with the singular and exclusive focus on gay rights (but it is OK if you do, just as long as you are not forcing us to wipe out or ignore other parts of our identities) There's lots of people in the GLBT community who experience multiple types of oppression, and just focusing on only gay issues isn't really a choice for us sometimes.
Posted by: BB | Apr 10, 2007 5:39:06 PM
Hey Carla:
"White people are so self-centered they rarely, if ever, qualify their generalized statements"
The irony is annihilating!
Hilarious! And well done.
Posted by: Zlexar | Apr 10, 2007 6:17:52 PM
Look, she clarified and apologized:
http://www.roseanneworld.com/blog/index.php
Posted by: LPH | Apr 10, 2007 6:20:36 PM
Rosanne's overt misandry has always offended me. Her method of building up women was exclusively through the demeaning, degradiing, humiliating and immasculating of men. That's funny, and possibly deserved, in small doses but she just became a shrill and bitter harpy who's male bashing career far outlived its relevance. The "Rosanne" show was a case study in misandry. I never could get passed the non-stop male bashing to enjoy the supposed brilliance of her humor or to appreciate her style of "empowering" women.
For the record, I don't like people who tear down straight people to empower gay people or anyone who tears down others to empower themselves.
Not liking Rosanne's bitter and offensive style of "empowerment" is the rule for me not than the exception.
Posted by: Zeke | Apr 10, 2007 6:35:04 PM
Thanks LPH. Her two apologies are nice - and she takes a shot at gay republicans (always a popular move - every minority loves having an even smaller minority to loathe).
Check out some of the other entries on her blog...the woman is fucking crazy:
" Mary Magdelene was a follower of Miriam, Jesus' mother, who was raised in the Holy Temple from her birth. She was the last of the Temple Priestesses (Shekkinah -"goddess"- Worshippers).
They killed her son to get rid of the last vestige of The Goddess, upon whom all the world's religions are based. They then killed all the women who knew the truth behind christianity. It was the war of the women that still goes on now...blaming men is a great cover for it, but again, it is my theory that women are to blame for everything that men do. Women want a male God, he is their Golem (totem-penis). Last night at Passover, we invoked and prayed to the Goddess (as does every jew, although unwittingly). She is finally answering our prayers and making herself seen once again...Shekkinah Rising, after two thousand years...get ready, She is Pissed! She demands that women answer for what they have done to each other's children."
Posted by: Zlexar | Apr 10, 2007 6:36:44 PM
Thanks for posting the link to her apology LPH.
I'll accept her apology, which seems sincere, but I still have to wonder what was behind her targeting the whole gay community, and no one else, with such an unfairly overgeneralized and bitter flame bomb.
Posted by: Zeke | Apr 10, 2007 6:49:51 PM
I accept Roseanne's apology. I think she went on a tangent and said things she really didn't know much about. She has a good record regarding gay people. That shouldn't be thrown away because of a illinformed comment.
I do disagree with one thing she brought up in her apology and that is ACORN. ACORN is an organization that gives housing breaks to ILLEGAL immigrants while American citizens have to pay more for housing. That is not right.
Contact Congress about Illegal Immigration
http://www.congress.org/congressorg/home/
Sign a petition
http://www.securedbordersusa.com/
Posted by: Jack! | Apr 10, 2007 7:07:59 PM
I should also add that Condomania is an awesome store. Too bad it's closing.
Posted by: Zlexar | Apr 10, 2007 8:33:16 PM
She said she based her comments on her frustration over the fact that there were gay Republicans. Once again, I question why she targeted only gays. Does she not know that there are women who are Republicans and that there are African-Americans who are Republicans?
Republicans aren't the greatest threat to gays and other minorities. Ignorance and fear, regardless of party affiliation, are the greatest threats to justice and equality for any oppressed minority. Especially when that ignorance and fear is spewed by people with very big soap boxes and especially when spewed by people who should know better.
Posted by: Zeke | Apr 10, 2007 9:53:25 PM
Zeke : Ignorance, fear, and- especially- hatred, are threats not only to the minority but for any individual (even individuals from the majority). Look how badly black activists, feminist activists, and even some demented gay activists called for the imprisonment and death of those 3 Duke (falsely) accused.
Posted by: Joe T. | Apr 16, 2007 4:33:16 AM
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