Actor Scott Caan to Paparazzo: Get a Real Job, You Faggot

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TMZ’s photographers caught up with actor Scott Caan as he was leaving the Newsroom Cafe on Robertson Boulevard yesterday.

The pissed off son of James Caan challenged the photographer to a fight before unleashing the F-word:

“You tryin to be nice about it? I saw you shootin me while I was eatin a cheeseburger. Fuckin jack-off. I’ll give you a thousand dollars to come fight me, how bout that? $2000. $2500. Ten grand if you’ll fight me. Get a real job, you faggot.”

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Comments

  1. Rey says

    I’d do him too.

    He’s got that awesomely proportioned body because he’s so damned short.

    Plus, with the tiny little torso, he’d make my dick look massive.

    Bwahaha!

  2. secretagentman says

    I’m pretty sure back in the days when he hadn’t started working in the business, he was openly gay. I’m positive I read about him in Interview or something.

  3. Derrick from Philly says

    Is there a difference between calling a gay man a faggot, and calling any man (who may or may not be gay) a faggot? In the latter case is the name-caller trying to insult gay folks? By using that insult are you always insulting gay folks no matter what?

  4. DoubleAgent says

    I seem to remember Scott being arrested several years ago I believe at The Factory or even The Abbey for starting a fight. It was in Page Six–I’m sure someone could do some digging if they even thought he was worth it.

  5. Rey says

    What do you think, Derrick?

    Is there a particularly abhorrent word that is typically used to insult one group of people that ends up being just as offensive when directed at somebody that doesn’t fit into the original group?

    For example, if you call a guy a “bitch”, are you insulting all women by implying that a “bitch-man” is as “bad” as a woman?

  6. RP says

    Double Agent,

    I’m bored enough so here you go:

    Scott Caan was arrested in September of 1998 after repeatedly punching fellow bar patron James Alleyna at a West Hollywood bar. The fight started after Alleyna danced with Caan’s girlfriend.

  7. BusytTimmy says

    Scott Caan has always given me major wood. Although having photographers all over you is most likely frustrating, his “fight me” crap is pretty freakin’ lame. Scott Caan is a small man, not just in stature.

  8. says

    I am shocked that people are giving him a pass on this one because they think he’s hot. That is just sad.

    Speaking of jobs, he’s at Newsroom eating a cheeseburger in the middle of the day…

  9. says

    Also, for those who don’t/haven’t lived in Los Angeles:

    If you don’t want your picture taken, don’t eat at the Ivy, Newsroom (directly across the street), or Mr. Chow. There are plenty of places you can go and eat a good meal and not be bothered.

    He was asking for it. Perhaps to help him get another “real” job

  10. Derrick from Philly says

    Well, Rey, I’m actually not sure what I think or feel on this topic. My questions about this incident were honest ones–no alterior motive behind them. As amazing as it may seem, I am interested in what different opinions different gay people may have on the matter. We aint no monolith, are we, now?

    By the way, somehow I don’t associate the insult “bitch” with women or femininity. I come across a lot of bitchy straight and gay men…everyday. Maybe that helps explain why I have questions about the word “faggot” that for most gay males have obvious answers.

  11. JR says

    Jake,

    That was HILARIOUS! Good one. What’s even better is I’m an actor and STILL thought it was funny.

    Take it in stride fellas. Is it OK to throw around the word faggot? No. But I can’t tell you how many times I’ve crossed paths with an idiot that needed to be called out. Little man Scott fucked up by getting caught on camera basically being a moronic jerk. Screaming “Fight me” and “faggot” just make him look like an ignorant Neanderthal and that should be enough. I mean, it’s not like he said it at the Golden Globes or anything. 😉

  12. pleez says

    All you queens upset with this should get a real life…not everythig is related to “gay” – faggot is a derogative term used by many black people too… Good for him for using it…. and all you “up in arms” about it… put down the rainbow flag and look up suicide instead. gheesh – waaa waaa…let’s be angered at everyone and say the entire world is against gays…get over yourselves

  13. jimmyboyo says

    http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-54879373.html

    The Advocate 1998

    The mainstream press just can’t agree on how to handle stories that may involve closeted gay or lesbian celebrities. Case in point: In the wee hours of September 30, struggling actor Scott Caan, 23-year-old son of movie star James, was arrested along with companion Ross Porterfield for allegedly assaulting James Alleyna and friend Joshua Sher at the Firehouse, a West Hollywood, Calif., gay bar

  14. peterparker says

    I know Scott Caan. He’s certainly not a close friend, but we’re on a first-name basis. He lives down the street from me, and he’s never been anything but nice. He always says hello when we run into each other…always shakes my hand…always looks me in the eye and says ‘how are you?’…he’s a nice guy…and he isn’t a homophobe.

  15. marco says

    Dear Pleeze,

    You’re not just a tool, but the entire tool shed. Black people use the term, too? It means something totally different if you’re black? In what world? Look up suicide? WTF?

    “Good for him for using it… ”

    Yeah, insulting people with childish, homophobic remarks is something to be proud of and relished. I am sure Dog the Bounty Hunter needs to be reassured his racist remarks are justified and totally valid.

    Please shut the fuck up. Oh, and pick up Mr. Caan’s lunch for him. I assume only a moron employed by this nobody would step up and defend him.

  16. Brandon says

    I guess I’m a little confused. Terry McMillian and Isiah Washington were crucified on here for calling someone a faggot. But Scott Caan calls some random guy a faggot and he’s getting a pass?

    There are posts indicating that they understand that he’s upset about being photographed. I understand why he might be pissed, but lest folks be reminded that no was remotely understanding when Terry McMillian (who’d written a friggin book and made a movie about her husband) used the word faggot when she found out her husband was gay. In fact, she was quoted as saying she felt it was the only weapon she had. She got no remorse and people were calling her all sort of names.

    So what gives here folks?!

    I’m not asking that people have to blow a gasket everytime someone says something bigoted. In fact, I’d rather people not lose control. But, you can keep your composure and still condemn inappropriate behavior.

    Hot or not, straight people (at a minimum) should not be going around calling random folks faggots.

  17. jimmyboyo says

    Great point Brandon.

    But, the straight thing is in question since he was arested sep 1998 with male companion at The Firehouse a west hollywood gay bar for fighting with 2 other male patrons, supposedly over 1 of them dancing with his closeted boyfriend.

    scroll up for links

  18. MikeinSanJose says

    I don’t have a problem with it. Of course, I’m an adult and I grew up with “Sticks and Stones may break my bones but Words will never hurt me” (unless I allow them to hurt me!)

    I’m gay and I use it too on occasion. But for me, and possibly Scott too, it’s more for shock-value than a statement on someone’s sexuality. Insecure straight men are far more tormented when they feel their sexuality is in question than a gay man would be, especially when the question has merit. Just ask any republican.

    The thing that I find interesting is that when Michael Richards had his little rant, everyone discussed it for several weeks but you didn’t hear people saying “Michael Richards said ‘Nigger'” over and over and over. They use the pc-term ‘The N-Word’ (no relation to the Showtime series). But on this comments page the word “faggot” has been repeated time and time again, all the while being villified as such an offensive word.

    It certainly can’t be THAT offensive or we wouldn’t feel the need to keep using it, eh? Even if we’re trying to make a point.

  19. says

    I think there’s some confusion about use of the word “faggot” and hatred of gay people.

    There are some straight (and gay) people (such as my mother) who use the word because they legitimately believe that it is just a derogatory word for a man and that is has nothing to do with gayness when it is not directed at a gay person.

    As I have to remind them (and my mother) is that the word is not only derogatory as an insult to gay men but, when you yell it out at a straight man, it’s just as bad because it’s saying that being gay is the worst thing in the world for a man.

    I don’t care if the person feels that they love and accept gay people, using that word suggests that gay is some kind of “horrible” thing to be called and that is not acceptance.

    Now count the number of times I used the word “derogatory” in this comment and take a sip from a strong drink for each…

    p.s. for a cashier at a 7-Eleven, Scott Caan is hot, but for an actor in Hollywood, he’s not that hot. We ALL could do better.

  20. Chicagogo says

    Actually, Peterparker, the CNN story was based on a false early Reuters report. Page Six later said that it was indeed a boyfriend and that Caan had outed himself by getting in that fight.

  21. tjc says

    Junior– A non-Latina coworker called someone a “maricon” in front of me. I asked her if she knew what the word meant and that it was offensive (especially to me). She didn’t know what it translated to, but she said she was told “it was the worst thing you can call a man.”

    I explained it meant “faggot” and did she see why, in a culture steeped in machismo, it would be “the worst thing you can call a man”? She was horrified and as far as I can tell stopped using the word.

    Junior’s mother is the same way: faggot is insulting to non-gay men because it questions their “manliness” with the implicit idea that GAY=BAD. Good for you Junior for calling her on it.

  22. peterparker says

    CHICAGOGO…you trust Page Six over CNN?! (By the way, do you have a link to that info that Reuters initially got the story wrong?)

    Besides, as I’ve said in previous posts in this thread, I know Scott Caan a bit. He might be the biggest pussy hound I’ve ever encountered in my entire life.

  23. tjc says

    MikeInSanJose–
    Re: why are we using the word “faggot” here instead of “the f-word” because everyone said “n-word” and not nigger?

    1. Most people here are quoting it, using it referentially (see my above post), or are saying it’s wrong to call someone a faggot.

    2. We’re a (primarily) gay male community, so we’re using it among ourselves in this discussion. I’d be my house that on African-American message boards they wrote “nigger” and not “n-word.”

    3. “Nigger” has a long history (dating back to slavery) of very public negative connotations. They are stronger than the negative connotations of “faggot.” Many people who won’t use either word would say “he called him a faggot” but not “he called him a nigger.” The black civil rights movement fought for years to get rid of the word. The GLBT movement is nascent in its battle against the use of “faggot” and “that’s so gay” as common putdowns, and frankly. We’re working on it. The modern trend among some younger black males to “reclaim” nigger as a term of affection is abhorrent to many older blacks.

    Personally, I believe context is key. Context includes ACTUAL intent (not merely stated intent — “I didn’t mean to offend” is BS). It also includes audience and circumstances. In Caan’s case, he was angry and it flowed too quickly — he has no problems using it because he didn’t think twice. In the case of a group of gay men over drinks and someone comes bounding up and says “I’m buying a round. What are you faggots drinking?” it’s likely tolerable.

    Double-standard? Hell yeah. Annoying? Sure. Am I okay with it? For the most part, yes, I am.

    Such is the mystery that is TJC. :-)

  24. Derrick from PHilly says

    Gabe:
    You’re right, but I add, who it’s being used against. Calling a gay man a faggot is meant as an insult and contains hatred for gay men. I’m not so sure that the gay conotation is there when straight guys insult each other with that word.

    Years ago, after the Redskins beat the Eagles, Doug Williams smurked, “yeah, they thought we were a bunch of faggots…” Now, that statement really hurt me ’cause I was a big Doug Williams fan. As far as I know, no gay organizations called him on the incident. As time went on, I realized that when Williams used the word “faggots” he didn’t have homosexual or gay or drag queen on his mind. Sissy? Maybe? But when staight guys are insulting each other, does the word faggot always mean homosexual or gay, or even gay-acting? I’m not sure…certainly, not as sure as some of y’all this afternoon.

    But as I said a year ago (and it got me into trouble on both racial sides), a STRAIGHT bigot calling a GAY man a faggot is the same as a white bigot calling a black man a nigger. I’ll never forget that famous Isaiah morning, and all the volatile shit that came after. Oooops, I hope I didn’t start it all again.

  25. peterparker says

    CHICAGOGO…it seems the major media outlets reported that the fight was over the fact that a guy danced with Scott Caan’s female date…and the gay press (and that bastion of journalism, Page Six) reported that the woman was actually a man. I wasn’t there, so I don’t know which side to believe. But I do know that CNN doesn’t know Scott Caan. Page Six doesn’t know Scott Caan. But I do know Scott Caan. He isn’t a friend, but an acquaintance. He hangs with a group of guys who are total fratboys. They remind me of the main characters on ‘Entourage’. Scott always has some girl hanging on his arm. Recently, I hear through a mutual friend that he has settled down with one girl. Scott is always been nice and friendly to this faggot. And as much as I wish he were gay, he strikes me as incredibly straight.

  26. Nick says

    LOL! I shudder to think of the response had the subject of one of today’s previous posts used this word. I’ll just say it would probably have A LOT more than 17 responses. 😉

  27. Derrick from Philly says

    Well, you gotta’ a point there, Nick. But would she have been talking about a gay man or just Britney Spears? Big difference there.

    Chile, let me get out of here before Chris Crocker arrives.

  28. RP says

    Chicagogo,

    That link takes you to an article by The Advocate which sources Page Six. It seems pretty obvious from the quote in the article that Page Six’s Richard Johnson is speculating too when he says, “When he got himself arrested for brawling in a gay bar, he outed himself. Case closed.”

    You have to take what you read on the internet and in the gossip columns with a grain of salt 90% of the time. This is one of those times.

  29. says

    Thanks TJC, and good for you for setting your co-worker straight. I went to a school with mostly people who speak Spanish from various countries and “maricon” might as well have been “hello” for the many times kids around me said it.

    I just have to set my record straight in case my mom clicks on towleroad.com instead of chicos.com. I didn’t grow up in a house of horrors and my mom wasn’t spewing hatred, she just said it once recently (actually she called Isaiah Washington a “faggot” as some kind of backwards support of gay people, love ya’ mom).

    More to the point, any word in context is non-offensive but I think at large, society needs to spend more time addressing the hate behind these words then banning the words themselves.

  30. Gianpiero says

    At the moment, it would be hard find a block in L.A. thicker with paparazzi on a day to day basis than this one that straddles the L.A./West Hollywood city line. Any celebrity (or like this guy, anyone well down the list) knows about or even expects the attention they’ll draw. Does that mean that the paparazzi should get a pass for intrusiveness? No. But no one who finds himself in a photo while in the neighborhood should be the least bit surprised.

    To be sure, the madness seems to have peaked earlier this year and celebrity shoppers are decamping to other locales (e.g., the two-block long Melrose Place, about a mile away). The result being that there is less fodder for the paparazzi, so they’re left with guys like Caan and the crowds of Lindsay Lohann wannabes (who’da thunk??) trolling the sidewalks.

  31. says

    So did any of you guys see “Into The Blue” starring Paul Walker and Scott Caan? The on screen and off-screen frat boy touchie feeley action is legendary. The movie was shot on the coast of Paradise Island and nearly half the movie is shot underwater. Walker and Caan do an underwater ballet while holding each other that is priceless. But the piece ‘d resistance is five minutes into the film at the island airport. Caan arrives from the states and grabs Paul Walker wrestling him to the floor of the airport, holding him for dear life. Then Walker lands up sitting on Caan’s crotch. Caan says, “Can you stay right there buddy, that feels really good.” The movie is currently running on Showtime or you can rent it. Watch it and then reformulate your opinions about Caan. Jessica Alba reports that a lot of this “interaction” had to be cut out of the movie as that they acted like lovebirds during the entire shoot.

    Yes, Caan is hot, but I’ll take Paul Walker any day. Ok, I’ll take them both!

    http://movies.about.com/library/weekly/blintothebluepicsa.htm

  32. peterparker says

    ANGRYCITIZEN, if you decide to fight Scott Caan I recommend booking the hospital room in advance. Scott got that great set of shoulders he sports from working out regularly in the boxing ring. And the guy he fought with in West Hollywood…Scott knocked him unconscious. He might be small, but he’s tough.

  33. Chicagogo says

    “You have to take what you read on the internet and in the gossip columns with a grain of salt 90% of the time. This is one of those times.”

    You also have to take what you read on CNN and the other mainstream media with a grain of salt when it comes to the closeting of celebrities. This is one of THOSE times.

  34. peterparker says

    For all those people who are trying to make a comparison between what Scott Caan said and what Isaiah Washington said (and did), I’d like to remind you of three things: A) Isaiah referred to an actual homosexual as ‘faggot’ B) By referring to him as a faggot, Isaiah outed T.R. Knight C) Isaiah Washington did not challenge someone to fight him as Scott Caan did…Isaiah actually assaulted a coworker on the set. For all those reasons, both individually and taken as a whole, I find Isaiah Washington’s words and behavior far more reprehensible than this admittedly juvenile, admittedly reprehensible words/behavior out of Scott Caan.

  35. Puleeze says

    such b.s. peterparker

    1-he referred to an “actual” homosexual…T.R. overheard the remark….the intent of both men (Caan and Washington) was the same….both were said to straight men in the heat of an argument in order to degrade them

    2. he outed an closet homo. So now where supporting closeted homos? I’m sure Tom Cruise will be glad to hear that.

    3. he only challenged him to a fight. Caan has been caught in brawls before, so he is clearly as hotheaded as Washington. Try again.

    translation: he’s peterparker’s neighbor and he likes that Caan acknowledges him and speaks to him and makes him feel special. Plus he’s a goodlooking white guy and Washington is the big scary black man.

    puleeeeze. Start over.

  36. Zeke says

    PETERPARKER, how ’bout next time you see your friendly, very straight, pussy hound, neighbor-down-the-street acquaintance you remind him that this is the twenty-first century and it’s simply not cool to use homophobic slurs, even if it’s “just” intended to insult an insecure straight person.

    😉

  37. Frozen North says

    Am I the only one who doesn’t think Faggot=Gay? To me Faggot=Bitchy, Inappropriate, Negative, Effeminate Men. And Gay men are not all those things. Just like Bitch<>All Women. That’s why people can say it. Is it insulting, yes. But not if it’s directed not at me AND by someone who I don’t think is really homophobic. It’s about the context.

  38. Zeke says

    FROZEN NORTH, YOU may think that Gay men are not all of “those things” but most straight people, and even some gay people, who use this slur DO believe that Gay = Bitchy, Inappropriate, Negative, Effeminate Men. THAT’S the point of the slur and that’s precisely why its use should always be considered insulting to gay men.

    Your argument reminds me of people I grew up with in Mississippi who would say, “Don’t act like a n*gger!” or “Act white!” meaning “don’t be lazy” or “don’t act stupid”. Most white people were insulted that someone would “accuse” them of being “like a black person” but I was insulted by the fact that they thought such an “accusation” was an insult and that being black was equated with being lazy or stupid. When I would challenge them on their racism they would INEVITABLY offer their version of the argument you made above. They would say “n*gger” doesn’t “necessarily” mean “black” it means “lazy” or “stupid”. I called BULLSHIT on them. They used “n*gger” PRECISELY because they considered it to equal “black”, which in their minds equaled lazy and stupid.

    Interestingly enough, these people never seemed to be ashamed of or apologetic for their racism in their daily lives. In fact they seemed downright proud of it right up to the moment that someone challenged them and then, miraculously, they would deny that they were racist and act insulted that anyone would accuse them of such a thing.

    I see the EXACT same tactics used to dismiss and deny racism in Mississippi 20 years ago being used to dismiss and deny homophobia today.

    I’m glad to see that Mr. Caan has given a REAL apology for using the slur. I hope, rather than just writing it off as a slip of the tongue or trying to explain away how the word isn’t “necessarily” homophobic, he’ll get to the bottom of why he used/uses such a word to slur another man. Otherwise his apology is meaningless and nothing will be learned from it.

  39. Zeke says

    One more thing.

    I want to make it clear that I don’t think that “Effeminate” should be listed with negative attributes like “Bitchy”, “Inappropriate” and “Negative”.

    Effeminate men may make some people uncomfortable but it isn’t because being effeminate is a vice.

    I have close friends who are by nature quite effeminate and if anyone thought that made them acceptable targets for being called “faggot”, I would be hard pressed to keep from knocking the nasty word right back down their throats along with a few of their teeth.

  40. John says

    Paul Walker is the hottie here.
    Caan..Talk about a Napoleon complex, 5-5 and no lips, and trying to follow in one heck of shadow. Major chip on his shoulder. He needs to lose the ‘tude.

  41. rudy says

    Cannot add anything more to Zeke’s well articulated and long-standing critique of the homophobic slur. Amen brother! And Puleez, I think you nailed it. Poor PP appears to have gotten in the shower and turned it on to “delusional”. Funny how bigotry can be justified (or at least minimized) when the rationalizer wants to be liked by the bigot. So many hairs were split that the whole weave is in need of retightening.

  42. Nita says

    Zeke wrote, “They would say “n*gger” doesn’t “necessarily” mean “black” it means “lazy” or “stupid”. I called BULLSHIT on them. They used “n*gger” PRECISELY because they considered it to equal “black”, which in their minds equaled lazy and stupid.”

    They’re saying it now. And thank you for your post. That particular parallel is on target.

  43. Derrick from PHilly says

    “….the difference between Scott Caan and Isaiah Washington.”

    Well, NITA, of course the issue was race. Some white gays will say that the argument, “you blacks complain about persecution, therefore, you should KNOW BETTER than to throw slurs at other oppressed groups,” was a legitimate argument. I’ve used that argument against black homophobes. Somehow when many of the white gays used it, it didn’t ring true; and the credibility of many outraged white gays was in question. Where was their “moral outrage” when the issue of racism within the gay world was discussed? As a persecuted group, shouldn’t white gay men “know better” than to practice racism?

    The discussion escalated from Isaiah’s behavior to issues of race relations within the gay world. Many black posters felt that a lot of white gay men’s emphasis on getting Isaiah had more to do with an insult to their “white priviledge” than it did with a homophobic slur by a high-strung actor.

    One thing I do agree with some posters is that if the victim of the homophobic slur is indeed gay, the insult carries a far more serious aspect to it.

    Calling another straight guy a faggot means you are a hyper-masculine asshole. Calling a gay male a faggot means that you hate gay people, and you are a danger to them…unless of course it’s your wacky brother who you made angry because you cussed him out for not bringing your mother anything for her birthday, or Mother’s Day or Christmas. Straight guys can be such selfish, inconsiderate faggots.

  44. Zeke says

    DERRICK, I hope this white gay man’s credibility isn’t in question. I’m pretty sure you know me well enough by now to know that I’m not one of those detached, silver spooned boys who frivilously compares racism and homophobia without a real understanding of where they are similar and where they are different.

    I was fighting in the trenches against racism in deepest, darkest Mississippi (including against my family) when it was VERY dangerous to do so (starting in the 70’s). This was a number of years before I even thought about standing up for gay rights. In fact I was challenging racism long before I came out as gay.

    It’s my long held understanding of racism and race activism that guides my understanding of homophobia and gay activism.

  45. Zeke says

    I should add that it was probably my ever-present but unacknowledged homosexuality that pushed me to understand the evils of racism, sexism and classism even when I was a white male from an affluent family. I think I had a sense of being an “outsider” and an “other” and a “them” even before I consciously understood why.

    I credit my sexuality with giving me a deeper understanding of the wider world that my gender privilege and my race privilege as a white male from an affluent Mississippi family would not have given me.

    I think my sexuality, more than anything else, has been the blessing that opened my eyes to a new understanding of race, gender, faith, justice and fairness.

    I look at the road that my racist, sexist, homophobic, Christian fundamentalist, right-wing Republican brother chose to go down and all I can think is “there but for the grace of god and my sexual orientation go I.”

    I would like to think that even if I had grown up straight I would have figured a lot of this out on my own anyway, but who knows? There certainly wasn’t any incentive in my upbringing for a straight, white male to question the status and privilege of gender, race and heritage.

    That’s why I thank God every day that I was born a homo! Some people consider it a curse. I consider it one of my greatest blessings.

  46. Derrick from Philly says

    I’m nodding my head with a sincere smile, Zeke… and aint no way it can be mistaken for a smirk. I honestly believe that you do not believe in white priviledge, and they are more like you. I never said, “all white gays”–only the ones who deny using hair coloring.

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