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Kern at 1000-Strong 'Rally for Sally': This is Not About Me


NOTE: This is an update of an earlier post...and it's worth pointing out that while AP puts the numbers at the protest at 1,000, a local news station puts them at 300, while the wishful thinkers at right-wing religious outlet WingNut Daily put them at 2,000.

Early reports are beginning to come in on the "Rally for Sally" sponsored by several right-wing religious "pro-family" groups along with over 50 pastors.

KernVia AP: "More than 1,000 people streamed into the Oklahoma Capitol Wednesday for a rally in support of state Rep. Sally Kern, the Republican lawmaker who drew national condemnation for anti-gay remarks caught in a YouTube audio clip. A 'We Stand With Sally Kern,' sign was posted in the Capitol's first-floor rotunda, where the rally was being held. Kern drew widespread criticism for her comments, including a remark that homosexuals are a greater threat than terrorists. Kern has rejected demands by gay and lesbian groups that she apologize for her remarks."

Above, Kern is pictured with state Rep. Mike Reynolds (R-Oklahoma City).

Kern3The Oklahoman reports: "Kern (pictured here with Jack Bettis and Americans for Truth's Peter LaBarbera) and several others, including a man who said he was gay until he found Jesus Christ, often quoted Scriptures while speaking to the crowd. Kern...said after the rally she was humbled by the turnout. 'This is not about me,' Kern told those at the rally. 'It's about the church having the right to speak out about the redeeming love of Jesus Christ Who died to set us all free from our sins.' Kern's husband, the Rev. Steve Kern, said it wasn't the purpose of the rally to bash homosexuals. 'We love them,' said Rev. Kern, pastor of Olivet Baptist Church in Oklahoma City... Kern said a biblical verse came to her after her comments were posted last month on the Internet. The passage is Philippians 1:12, where the apostle Paul wrote, 'I want you to know that what has happened to me has served to the advancement of the gospel. And that's the way I'm looking at this to God be the glory,' she said. Kern said again today she is not going to apologize. She said her comments were not against homosexuals, but were directed at the strategy of gay rights supporters to defeat conservative candidates. Kern's husband said he wasn't asking anyone to apologize for the thousands who sent hate mail to his wife's Capitol office and to their home or said mean things about their family. 'We forgive you,' he said. 'We have no animosity in our hearts toward you.'"

The Oklahoman earlier today published an editorial calling Kern a "one-trick pony" who should "work to do something constructive" with her time.

The Oklahoman wrote in an editorial: "Last week Kern met with one of the groups (PFLAG), based in Oklahoma City, and afterward its president called it 'a very productive conversation' and backed off the call for Kern to step down. But the next day, Kern said the group had taken her remarks from the meeting 'and spun them to make it appear that I am backing off my comments that homosexuality is a sin ... and that I am in favor of sexual orientation laws.' She said neither could be further from the truth, and that the group had shown a 'lack of integrity' by twisting her words to fit its purposes. Oh, and she won't meet again with members. That's disappointing, but hardly surprising. Kern's main focus in the Legislature has been on anti-gay initiatives, such as trying to determine where libraries should place books with homosexual themes. 'God's Word does not change. ... Therefore, my opinion also will not change,' she said last week. Kern will be shown a little love today when the American Family Association holds a rally in her support at the Capitol. Perhaps constituents ought to hold a rally of their own, urging this one-trick pony to put her tiresome personal agenda aside and work to do something constructive."

'Sally Rally' draws more than 1,000 Kern supporters [the oklahoman]
Sally Rally: People gather to support state lawmaker who made anti-gay remarks [tulsa world]
She said, she said: Lawmaker won't let issue go [the oklahoman]

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  1. Disgusting.

    Posted by: peterparker | Apr 2, 2008 3:08:36 PM

  2. Well, we've seen it time and time again, the ones who are most vehement in their criticism, righteousness are the ones who have the most to hide:

    Spitzer, Craig, and the list goes on and on.

    Posted by: tom | Apr 2, 2008 3:14:49 PM

  3. this bitch doesn't understand separation of church and state!! and she is a congress woman...oh, Sweet Jesus!! :)

    Posted by: paul | Apr 2, 2008 3:26:23 PM

  4. Paul, you took the words out of my mouth. Verbatim. For a politician to legislate their God's will is terrifying opposed to what our Founding Ftahers wanted for our nation.

    When are we all going to have to start lining up for the gas chambers?

    Posted by: jeff | Apr 2, 2008 3:29:09 PM

  5. They cheered George Wallace too.

    Posted by: sam | Apr 2, 2008 3:29:09 PM

  6. She catering to her base; the AFA and the like.

    The Christian Reich are organized and funded. That segment of the country has always been organized. It's interesting that when there is momentum to counter people like that, suddenly a grass-roots organization of those Nazi's sprouts up to diffuse the community. What that tells me is that they are not only organized, but connected everywhere.

    Until we [gays, Democrats, fill in the blank] stop eating our own and finally find one commonality that we can defend, crapheads like these will remain in power.

    But lastly, all this gay hatred is over one thing: The word "Marriage". I laud these States that are sidestepping the word when making legislature. THAT, people, is where the leverage for us is going to come from. Equality in other areas, on the books.

    Posted by: Rad | Apr 2, 2008 3:38:42 PM

  7. I'm glad Oklahoma has no other worries, like recession, the housing crisis, rising gas and food costs, loss of jobs, and disabled vets returning from Iraq. Demonize the Gayz Day !

    I think the stories of her son's predatory same-sex activities are fair game to be on Page 1 of Oklahoma newspapers now. She's made it an issue.

    Has being a rabid antigay Republican been classified as a mental disorder yet? What's taking so long?

    Posted by: Arunz | Apr 2, 2008 3:41:12 PM

  8. Why doesn't anyone in Oklahoma start a counter protest rally? As a Christian, I'm disgusted to see people go under a veil of supposed "Christianity" to promote fear and hatred. It happened during the Crusades; it happened during the Inquisition; the Klu Klux Klan murdered in the Name of Christ; abortion clinics were bombed in the Name of Christ; GLBT individuals are murdered in the Name of Christ, yet Sally claims homosexuals are the terrorists. I weep. She should read a history book. Fanatical groups across every religion are the ones that breed terrorism.

    Posted by: Mario | Apr 2, 2008 3:43:59 PM

  9. I look forward to this bigot's on-the-scene report tomorrow:

    Posted by: John In Manhattan | Apr 2, 2008 3:52:05 PM

  10. For some hair-raising homophobic support of Kern, check out the comments on the Tulsa World link! (some of our colleagues have already visited)

    Posted by: Kevinvt | Apr 2, 2008 4:05:49 PM

  11. What amazes me is that the vast majority of people who "stand up" against gays do so in the name of Christianity... Yet Jesus never had a single word to say about homosexuality. Still, if we were to assume being gay to be a sin, as many Christians do, we would only need to look to Jesus' example to know how to treat them – Jesus embraced sinners and showed them nothing but compassion. He did not make public statements denouncing them. He did not make false accusations against them. And he certainly did not compare them to cancer or blame them for the fall of societies. Though he was the Son of God, he did not take it upon even himself to "stand up" against sinners. Instead, he simply loved them. And the only people he "stood up" against were those who felt themselves to be the experts on scripture, God and his will – the Pharisees.

    Those cheering on Kern in the name of Jesus would do well to ask themselves if they are truly emulating the one they claim to serve.

    Posted by: bd1421 | Apr 2, 2008 4:54:53 PM

  12. KevinVT, you make a very good point but I must say that I don't consider the LGBT community as sinners. Pedophiles, murderers, and bigots like Sally Kern are what I consider as sinners. Jesus Christ embraced the sinners and said, "If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone".

    Posted by: ChadSF | Apr 2, 2008 5:21:31 PM

  13. Could she look anymore like a lesbian stereotype?

    Posted by: sam | Apr 2, 2008 5:45:25 PM

  14. with ALL the problems in our society, this is what they focus on?????????


    Stop the grandstanding and do some REAL legislative work. HELP PEOPLE, you arrogant sons of bitches!!!!!!!!

    Posted by: dc20008 | Apr 2, 2008 5:49:25 PM

  15. What the fuck is she talking about? It's ALL about her and her gay son and her hatred of gays. I hope they pray for their own ugly souls. I suspected Oklahoma was backwards but I had no idea it was this backwards?

    Posted by: ShawnSF | Apr 2, 2008 6:25:23 PM

  16. BD1421, thanks for your post. You've put, very clearly, into words what I've been arguing for many years. I hope you don't mind but I'm saving your post... It's the perfect comeback when zealots start their Bible thumping.

    Posted by: JTluvr | Apr 2, 2008 6:29:24 PM

  17. Oooh look at all the straight, rich, white dudes rallying to support her. Figures...

    If this doesn't prove Christianity in this country is nothing but another hateful, vile, evil cult, I don't know what does. :-/ I think Jesus would be rolling in his grave at the site of this crap.

    Posted by: adam in CHGO | Apr 2, 2008 6:29:49 PM

  18. Somebody with money put a tail on Sally and get pictures of her parting the beef curtains of some underage Oklahoma filly.

    Come on, you KNOW she's a self-loathing closet dyke.

    Then get pics and infor on the gay son and spread them everywhere.

    Posted by: David Ehrenstein | Apr 2, 2008 6:30:25 PM

  19. was this rally backed by the log cabin club and the rich straight guys as a show of support for her? the gop and hate is a family value in the name of jesus is so old and sick and twisted, but, millions fall for it. but, some of the hateful comments here are no better than her vile ones. tolerance and education is the best way to stop the hate, not using the same tactics. this woman is in her 70's, she was raised a certain way, and, calling her names isn't going to change her heart.

    Posted by: love bug | Apr 2, 2008 6:54:58 PM

  20. BD1421: I agree with you, but the post you cited wasn't mine!

    Posted by: Kevinvt | Apr 2, 2008 6:59:43 PM

  21. ChadSF,

    Based on what you said, I'm assuming you meant to direct your comment to me (the name of the person posting is at the bottom of the post, not the top)...

    Let me be very clear that, as you, I do not consider homosexuality to be a sin. But clearly, most professing Christians do. And as such, I was trying to make the case that even IF we were to assume that, the way many Christians treat the GLBT community is not as Jesus would.

    But yes, I completely agree that all should keep in mind their own sin when feeling the need to correct others. It is a repeated theme throughout the New Testament about not judging others.

    Posted by: bd1421 | Apr 2, 2008 7:07:20 PM

  22. KevinVT, nor was the post you cited mine – it was ChadSF's. ;)

    Posted by: bd1421 | Apr 2, 2008 7:09:29 PM

  23. damn, white people are so homophobic. :)

    Posted by: johnosahon | Apr 2, 2008 7:11:01 PM

  24. Kern March 28th 2008

    "our system of government is founded on Christianity and a biblical world view, .....Christianity is the only path to salvation."

    Not only is the first part historicaly wrong (no democracy in the bible, actualy pagan greco roman influence, pagan british common law, etc)but it all smacks of subtle anti-semitism.

    I wonder if we can get Jewish groups to join in on the fight against Kern?

    Posted by: Jimmyboyo | Apr 2, 2008 7:21:11 PM

  25. The big issue for me here is we have a someone in legislature that fundamentally does not understand the constitution that she swore to uphold and protect when she entered office.

    If she wants to change the constitution to remove the separation of church and state, or remove the equal rights provision an make homosexuality illegal then she has something to talk about, she should resign for office and support such a change but the constitution that we have now and that she swore to uphold and protect says that gays have equal rights and she is not allowed to involve her religion in government.

    I would really like her to explain her understanding of the first and 14th amendments because she clearly has a different understanding of it than the people who wrote it, the supreme court and constitutional scholars .

    Posted by: John M | Apr 2, 2008 7:41:54 PM

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