Barack Obama Clinches Historic Democratic Nomination

BARACK OBAMA’S REMARKS – JUNE 3, 2008

Remarks of Senator Barack Obama
Final Primary Night
Tuesday, June 3rd, 2008
St. Paul, Minnesota
As Prepared for Delivery

Tonight, after fifty-four hard-fought contests, our primary season has finally come to an end.

Sixteen months have passed since we first stood together on the steps of the Old State Capitol in Springfield, Illinois. Thousands of miles have been traveled. Millions of voices have been heard. And because of what you said – because you decided that change must come to Washington; because you believed that this year must be different than all the rest; because you chose to listen not to your doubts or your fears but to your greatest hopes and highest aspirations, tonight we mark the end of one historic journey with the beginning of another – a journey that will bring a new and better day to America. Tonight, I can stand before you and say that I will be the Democratic nominee for President of the United States.

I want to thank every American who stood with us over the course of this campaign – through the good days and the bad; from the snows of Cedar Rapids to the sunshine of Sioux Falls. And tonight I also want to thank the men and woman who took this journey with me as fellow candidates for President.

At this defining moment for our nation, we should be proud that our party put forth one of the most talented, qualified field of individuals ever to run for this office. I have not just competed with them as rivals, I have learned from them as friends, as public servants, and as patriots who love America and are willing to work tirelessly to make this country better. They are leaders of this party, and leaders that America will turn to for years to come.

That is particularly true for the candidate who has traveled further on this journey than anyone else. Senator Hillary Clinton has made history in this campaign not just because she’s a woman who has done what no woman has done before, but because she’s a leader who inspires millions of Americans with her strength, her courage, and her commitment to the causes that brought us here tonight.

We’ve certainly had our differences over the last sixteen months. But as someone who’s shared a stage with her many times, I can tell you that what gets Hillary Clinton up in the morning – even in the face of tough odds – is exactly what sent her and Bill Clinton to sign up for their first campaign in Texas all those years ago; what sent her to work at the Children’s Defense Fund and made her fight for health care as First Lady; what led her to the United States Senate and fueled her barrier-breaking campaign for the presidency – an unyielding desire to improve the lives of ordinary Americans, no matter how difficult the fight may be. And you can rest assured that when we finally win the battle for universal health care in this country, she will be central to that victory. When we transform our energy policy and lift our children out of poverty, it will be because she worked to help make it happen. Our party and our country are better off because of her, and I am a better candidate for having had the honor to compete with Hillary Rodham Clinton.

There are those who say that this primary has somehow left us weaker and more divided. Well I say that because of this primary, there are millions of Americans who have cast their ballot for the very first time. There are Independents and Republicans who understand that this election isn’t just about the party in charge of Washington, it’s about the need to change Washington. There are young people, and African-Americans, and Latinos, and women of all ages who have voted in numbers that have broken records and inspired a nation.

All of you chose to support a candidate you believe in deeply. But at the end of the day, we aren’t the reason you came out and waited in lines that stretched block after block to make your voice heard. You didn’t do that because of me or Senator Clinton or anyone else. You did it because you know in your hearts that at this moment – a moment that will define a generation – we cannot afford to keep doing what we’ve been doing. We owe our children a better future. We owe our country a better future. And for all those who dream of that future tonight, I say – let us begin the work together. Let us unite in common effort to chart a new course for America.

In just a few short months, the Republican Party will arrive in St. Paul with a very different agenda. They will come here to nominate John McCain, a man who has served this country heroically. I honor that service, and I respect his many accomplishments, even if he chooses to deny mine. My differences with him are not personal; they are with the policies he has proposed in this campaign.

Because while John McCain can legitimately tout moments of independence from his party in the past, such independence has not been the hallmark of his presidential campaign.

It’s not change when John McCain decided to stand with George Bush ninety-five percent of the time, as he did in the Senate last year.

It’s not change when he offers four more years of Bush economic policies that have failed to create well-paying jobs, or insure our workers, or help Americans afford the skyrocketing cost of college – policies that have lowered the real incomes of the average American family, widened the gap between Wall Street and Main Street, and left our children with a mountain of debt.

And it’s not change when he promises to continue a policy in Iraq that asks everything of our brave men and women in uniform and nothing of Iraqi politicians – a policy where all we look for are reasons to stay in Iraq, while we spend billions of dollars a month on a war that isn’t making the American people any safer.

So I’ll say this – there are many words to describe John McCain’s attempt to pass off his embrace of George Bush’s policies as bipartisan and new. But change is not one of them.

Change is a foreign policy that doesn’t begin and end with a war that should’ve never been authorized and never been waged. I won’t stand here and pretend that there are many good options left in Iraq, but what’s not an option is leaving our troops in that country for the next hundred years – especially at a time when our military is overstretched, our nation is isolated, and nearly every other threat to America is being ignored.

We must be as careful getting out of Iraq as we were careless getting in – but start leaving we must. It’s time for Iraqis to take responsibility for their future. It’s time to rebuild our military and give our veterans the care they need and the benefits they deserve when they come home. It’s time to refocus our efforts on al Qaeda’s leadership and Afghanistan, and rally the world against the common threats of the 21st century – terrorism and nuclear weapons; climate change and poverty; genocide and disease. That’s what change is.

Change is realizing that meeting today’s threats requires not just our firepower, but the power of our diplomacy – tough, direct diplomacy where the President of the United States isn’t afraid to let any petty dictator know where America stands and what we stand for. We must once again have the courage and conviction to lead the free world. That is the legacy of Roosevelt, and Truman, and Kennedy. That’s what the American people want. That’s what change is.

Change is building an economy that rewards not just wealth, but the work and workers who created it. It’s understanding that the struggles facing working families can’t be solved by spending billions of dollars on more tax breaks for big corporations and wealthy CEOs, but by giving a the middle-class a tax break, and investing in our crumbling infrastructure, and transforming how we use energy, and improving our schools, and renewing our commitment to science and innovation. It’s understanding that fiscal responsibility and shared prosperity can go hand-in-hand, as they did when Bill Clinton was President.

John McCain has spent a lot of time talking about trips to Iraq in the last few weeks, but maybe if he spent some time taking trips to the cities and towns that have been hardest hit by this economy – cities in Michigan, and Ohio, and right here in Minnesota – he’d understand the kind of change that people are looking for.

Maybe if he went to Iowa and met the student who works the night shift after a full day of class and still can’t pay the medical bills for a sister who’s ill, he’d understand that she can’t afford four more years of a health care plan that only takes care of the healthy and wealthy. She needs us to pass health care plan that guarantees insurance to every American who wants it and brings down premiums for every family who needs it. That’s the change we need.

Maybe if he went to Pennsylvania and met the man who lost his job but can’t even afford the gas to drive around and look for a new one, he’d understand that we can’t afford four more years of our addiction to oil from dictators. That man needs us to pass an energy policy that works with automakers to raise fuel standards, and makes corporations pay for their pollution, and oil companies invest their record profits in a clean energy future – an energy policy that will create millions of new jobs that pay well and can’t be outsourced. That’s the change we need.

And maybe if he spent some time in the schools of South Carolina or St. Paul or where he spoke tonight in New Orleans, he’d understand that we can’t afford to leave the money behind for No Child Left Behind; that we owe it to our children to invest in early childhood education; to recruit an army of new teachers and give them better pay and more support; to finally decide that in this global economy, the chance to get a college education should not be a privilege for the wealthy few, but the birthright of every American. That’s the change we need in America. That’s why I’m running for President.

The other side will come here in September and offer a very different set of policies and positions, and that is a debate I look forward to. It is a debate the American people deserve. But what you don’t deserve is another election that’s governed by fear, and innuendo, and division. What you won’t hear from this campaign or this party is the kind of politics that uses religion as a wedge, and patriotism as a bludgeon – that sees our opponents not as competitors to challenge, but enemies to demonize. Because we may call ourselves Democrats and Republicans, but we are Americans first. We are always Americans first.

Despite what the good Senator from Arizona said tonight, I have seen people of differing views and opinions find common cause many times during my two decades in public life, and I have brought many together myself. I’ve walked arm-in-arm with community leaders on the South Side of Chicago and watched tensions fade as black, white, and Latino fought together for good jobs and good schools. I’ve sat across the table from law enforcement and civil rights advocates to reform a criminal justice system that sent thirteen innocent people to death row. And I’ve worked with friends in the other party to provide more children with health insurance and more working families with a tax break; to curb the spread of nuclear weapons and ensure that the American people know where their tax dollars are being spent; and to reduce the influence of lobbyists who have all too often set the agenda in Washington.

In our country, I have found that this cooperation happens not because we agree on everything, but because behind all the labels and false divisions and categories that define us; beyond all the petty bickering and point-scoring in Washington, Americans are a decent, generous, compassionate people, united by common challenges and common hopes. And every so often, there are moments which call on that fundamental goodness to make this country great again.

So it was for that band of patriots who declared in a Philadelphia hall the formation of a more perfect union; and for all those who gave on the fields of Gettysburg and Antietam their last full measure of devotion to save that same union.

So it was for the Greatest Generation that conquered fear itself, and liberated a continent from tyranny, and made this country home to untold opportunity and prosperity.

So it was for the workers who stood out on the picket lines; the women who shattered glass ceilings; the children who braved a Selma bridge for freedom’s cause.

So it has been for every generation that faced down the greatest challenges and the most improbable odds to leave their children a world that’s better, and kinder, and more just.

And so it must be for us.

America, this is our moment. This is our time. Our time to turn the page on the policies of the past. Our time to bring new energy and new ideas to the challenges we face. Our time to offer a new direction for the country we love.

The journey will be difficult. The road will be long. I face this challenge with profound humility, and knowledge of my own limitations. But I also face it with limitless faith in the capacity of the American people. Because if we are willing to work for it, and fight for it, and believe in it, then I am absolutely certain that generations from now, we will be able to look back and tell our children that this was the moment when we began to provide care for the sick and good jobs to the jobless; this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal; this was the moment when we ended a war and secured our nation and restored our image as the last, best hope on Earth. This was the moment – this was the time – when we came together to remake this great nation so that it may always reflect our very best selves, and our highest ideals.

Thank you, God Bless you, and may God Bless the United States of America.

Comments

  1. rudy says

    And yet the Clintonites continue to cite her win in South Dakota as somehow meaningful. Time to stop breathing your own fumes folks and come together to elect a remarkable and capable candidate who will make a transformational President. The contrast with McCain could not be more stark. More importantly, the stakes are too high–with several Supreme Court Justices hanging in the balance–to continue to inflict hara kiri wounds on the Democratic Party.

  2. daveynyc says

    And so the democrats once again manage to lose the White House. I will never understand why this party LOVES to lose to Republicans. This was our shot and once again, right on schedule we manage to let it slip away by letting this man be our nominee. I hope there is no Obama/Clinton ticket, it won’t make a difference. The Republicans will start playing dirty starting today and we will see this man and his alliance sway and crumble. 4 years of MCain is in the cards for this country, there is NOW no doubt about that. One good thing is that this will make Senator Clinton’s win in ’12 so much sweeter and more historic. Hillary 2012!

  3. says

    Oh Dave, so sorry your candidate wasn’t super smart enough to win.The general election isn’t until November so your gloom and dooming are kind are pointless (and pathetic).

  4. PeterH says

    My partner keeps bugging me about something, so I thought I’d throw it out here: Why does the media refer to Obama as Black (as above) when he is bi-racial? I don’t have an answer.

  5. says

    YES WE CAN!

    I shouldn’t be, but I’m somewhat surprised at how gracious Hillary was NOT last night. Regardless, Obama is going to do very well in November once he becomes more and more known to the general public.

  6. matthew says

    I have to admit that I am a obama supporter (even though if it were Clinton against Mcbush, I mean Mccain, I would have voted for Clinton. Now that Obama has gotten the nomination, he had better prepare himself. Clinton is mere childs play compared to the mud slining campaign that Mcbush (exuse me, Mccain) is going to throw at obama in the 5 months that remain before November.

    Again, I am a Obama supporter, so I wish him the best and hope he gets elected in November.

  7. Davvy says

    Peterh

    bi-racial people, especially half black and half white are black according to the “one drop rule”. halle berry, bob marley, derek jeter are refered to a black. More importantly, unless you have advance knowledge of his bi-racial heritage, you would view him (and treat him) as any other black person. How many bi-racial people have you encountered but did not know it? What did u consider them? There’s your answer.

  8. Rafael says

    The Democratic party is stronger, more unified and better defined by this process. We now know who our nominee is and it is time to lend him all our support so that together we can realize a better future for all.

    Also as Sen. Obama mentioned in his speech he shares a progressive, inclusive vision for America to which Sen. Clinton will be central. Both camps can understand and should appreciate this.

    Sen. McCain is now our opponent and we need to focus on defeating him. We need to be more engaged and make our case to our family and friends. It is time to move forward.

  9. Rafael says

    PeterH – I believe the black reference to Sen. Obama in part is due to its historical significance as viewed by the media. Last night he dedicated his triumph to his white grandmother (who raised him) and embraced his African American wife, so one can easily see the complexity of his identity.

  10. Liz says

    Jimmyboyo, who are you to dictate someone else’s priorities. The democratic party as we knew it doesn’t exist anymore. They’re just as rabid as the republicans.

  11. Landis says

    Jimmyboyo:

    The average, non LGBT Clinton supporter will not view the wedge issues like you do. The argument is not arguing whether Obama will further the rights, but whether a democrat will win in November.

  12. Miles says

    The paid Republican trolls on various sites, not surprisingly, say the same things. They often pose as concerned Democrats or Independents. They want, above all, for us to become hopeless and demoralized. I just say to them, nice try but we’re not buying your horseshit.

  13. michael says

    @PeterH

    The media refer to him as black because that’s what he is, as anyone with a pair of eyes, and a fully functioning brain can see.
    I do think that the fact that he’s biracial makes him more appealing to whites, but the media will never mention that whn cooing over him.

    More importantly Barack self identifies as a black man, and if he wasn’t a Senator he’d be treated like the rest of us out here in racist America. Fact.

  14. excy says

    Wow, have you tried to listen to John McCain’s speech from News Orleans. It was just AWFUL. I wouldn’t be surprised if there were people sleeping in that audience. Even Fox commentators are giving competing explanations on why that speech tanked.
    If that’s the best he (and his team) can do….bring on the debates. He is old, he is tired and he is NOT a candidate of change. How will he inspire the younger generation of americans? I just don’t see it happening.

  15. daniel says

    From the bashing comments directed at Clinton supporters by the Obama supporters on this site and many other blogs, I think it’s funny now that you all would expect us to get behind Obama so he can win. There are more pieces to that puzzle that will never be complete.

    The “change/come together” message was lost along time ago on me by Obama, David Axelrod and his cronies. Just because Obama can read, I mean deliver a great prepared speech , doesn’t make him capable of being a great leader.
    The reason I will not be voting for him is very simple…trust.

    I do not trust people that will act sweet to my face and do and say nasty things behind my back, or worse yet, have others do their dirty work for them. The whole notion that Obama is not politics as usual is an absolute fabrication. I saw that first hand when my vote (or lack there of here in Florida) was given a chance to be heard by having a re-vote here in Florida which was offered by the Clinton campaign. Because it didn’t help them, the Obama campaign put a stop to that and did so while going out on every pundit filled Obama loving show saying how much they wanted every vote to count. This is just one fact in a line of many that has shown his true colors to me and many others.

    Another fact is that Obama has faulted Hillary on judgment, saying his is superior to hers. Where was his judgment in going to a church that spewed hate from the pulpit FOR 20 YEARS…judgment? Or should I quote Obama’s speech and say “Just Words?”

    First his answer was, oh the media is taking snippets of Rev Wright and twisting the truth, I can’t disown him as much as I could disown my own Grandmother, then when Rev Wright gets up in front of the National Press Club and SAYS THE EXACT SAME THINGS AS WERE THOSE SNIPPETS, Obama disowns him. But wait, actually Rev. Wright did say one additional thing at that Press Club meeting to cause Obama to disown him…he said Obama was just being a POLITICIAN. I guess that Rev Wright saying our government caused AIDS, the USA being called the US of KKK-A, that we basically deserved 911, the adoring comments about Louis Farrakhan (a homophobe/bigot to the tenth degree) were not deserving of Obama disowning Wright, but you add to that that Obama is a politician, and that’s it!!!! Wright is out of here.

    I could go on all day with examples, but I’ll spare you.

    With all of Hillary’s faults, (and there are many)she has never shied away from acknowledging she is a politician…she is what she is. I trust her more because of this fact.

    So, to all of you who say we are sore losers, McCain lovers, idiots, racists, etc., etc., etc. I don’t accept any of those descriptors, I am someone who wants someone in the Whitehouse who is real, someone who doesn’t act like they were sent by God to heal the land and atone for my sins…those types can stay in the pulpit.

    I will not be voting for McCain or Obama. I will leave it up to those who love the two of them to fight it out between each other. I would urge other Hillary supporters to show integrity and sit this election out, not just vote for the lesser of two evils.

    Hillary 2012!!

  16. Jack Scribe says

    The most striking moment on TV last night was the McCain event in Louisiana that looked like it was staged at a Motel 6 (the tight shots suggested not that many peeps)compared with the 17,000 excited Obama supporters in St. Paul. I look forward to the campaign.

  17. toto says

    We just need to stop talking about hillary.
    Obama won the nomination. Point.
    Her not conceding at this points is just delusional or damaging and disgraceful politician plot, when this is such an important election.
    People keep bringing up the sexism issue, but don’t you tink a lot of women voted for her only because she is a woman?
    And don’t you think a lot of white and hispanic people voted for her because obama is black?

  18. says

    I would have been happy with either Hillary or Obama as the Democratic nominee, but it will be Obama, and Hillary will be behind him in one way or another. And she will be behind him for a reason: having a Democrat in the White House come November will be far better for gay people and for all people who do not want the ideologies of the disastrous Bush administration to continue for another 4 years. Sitting an election out does not show integrity, and Hillary would be the first person to advise her supporters that pinning hopes on Hillary 2012 is petty and dangerously misguided at this point in history.

  19. Daniel says

    Ernie:

    You miss the point. The President of the United States of America is a job position.

    These candidates are asking us to hire them.

    If you owned a company, would you hire someone you didn’t trust?

    Bottom line…I don’t trust Obama, I will not hire him.

    It takes someone of integrity to not just look the other way, but walk the other way.

    I do trust McCain more than I trust Obama, but I do not in any way agree with the majority of his policies, so I will not vote to hire him either.

    You stated in your post that you would have been happy with either Hillary or Obama, I don’t feel the same and you can’t fault me for that.

    DAVENYC…back at ya! :)

  20. Zeke says

    DANIEL, NEWSFLASH: Rev. Wright is NOT running for president and he never was. I’m sorry if you were misinformed.

    Now, please,come down off the cross bubba, we’re gonna need the wood. Acting as if Obama supporters have been any more rude, uncivil or offensive than Clinton supporters is simply absurd.

    You and DAVENYC can continue reveling in your pity party but kindly do it out of the way of those of us who will be working to put the Democratic nominee into the White House in 2008. 2012 will be TOO LATE to save us from a Scalia/Thomas styled Supreme Court. You should consider getting your priorities in order.

    Moving on to the general election, that speech by McSame was LITERALLY painful for me to watch. I almost felt sorry for the old man. He seemed so out of place (I guess being in New Orleans had something to do with that) and so out of touch. His speech was tortured and seemed to be choreographed down to the fake smiles and forced laughs. There wasn’t a single ad libbed moment as he bounced from teleprompter to teleprompter to teleprompter. He had THREE of them set up, and he bounced between them like a ping pong ball. And what was with that sacchrine sweet tone of voice he was using. It reminded me of that “Stewart” character on Mad TV. I swear to god this man has someone’s hand up his butt working him like a puppet.

    The most mind numbing thing about his speech was his attempt to convince people that HE is the agent of change to fix all those terrible things that THOSE PEOPLE did to the country. WHO THE HELL ARE THOSE PEOPLE THAT HE’S REFERRING TO? Was he not one of the foremost leaders of THOSE PEOPLE?

    I can’t wait to see this man on the same stage with Obama. We better keep an eye out so that he doesn’t get the little earpiece assistance that got Bush through his debates. I don’t even think an earpiece prompter could save McCain in a one on one.

    Reagan went into the White House and sadly developed Alzheimer’s disease that, in retrospect, we now know affected his performance in his second term. I’m afraid that McSame is going in to this thing with some serious problems with mental agility.

  21. daniel says

    Zeke…NEWSFLASH

    Where in my post did I say Rev. Wright was running for office?????

    The point I made was about judgement. If you didn’t catch it, maybe you should re-read my post.

  22. daniel says

    and Zeke…

    I can’t speak for others, but I’m not having a pity party..before you go jumping on me for ME VOICING MY OPINION, maybe you should check your ego because I wasn’t personally insulting you or any other Obama supporter, I was stating the facts as I see them.

    Obama has won the nomination, I didn’t cry or name call, I explained my point of view…which is what I thought Andy set this space up for.

  23. Disgusted American says

    WTF is wrong with You gay guys…you want McCain to win? Obama isn’t perfect – but I’d trust him in a heartbeat – before McCain….The LCR’s need to eff’ing WAKE UP!

  24. Ben says

    Obama, Clinton…I’ve never cared which one. I want a DEMOCRAT in the White House starting next January. Any of our nominees could wipe the floor with those numbskulls the Rethuglicans put forward. All this bitter Clinton vs Obama stuff…sad. You’re letting the Rethugs laugh at you all the way to the big time. Band aid your cuts and scrapes, massage your injured egos, and let’s get ready to rumble with those right-wing, greedy, put-us-all-in-camps muthafuckas!

  25. rudy says

    Daniel, How can you ask us to respect your judgment in continuing to support a candidate that did not play by the rules that her own people established and yet still lost, when you cannot even spell ‘judgment’ correctly? Hillary has demonstrably and repeatedly failed to manage with even minimal competence the three things for which she has been responsible publicly: (1) her marriage to Bill; (2) the health care reform debacle (by any standard of judgment); and, (3) her disastrous campaign where she blew through a twenty point lead, with the entire Democratic machine behind her, and no discernible fall-back plan, when she was discovered to be an empty pantsuit by all those who have not drunk of the Clintonite Kool-aid.

    Go away silly little people, the adults have work to do to repair the fissures caused by your putative candidate and elect a Democratic President that will protect your civil rights, despite your efforts to the contrary.

    You and Dave, et al., can continue to engage in mutual mental masturbation if you so choose but that only reveals that your judgment is as deeply flawed as that of the losing candidate that you cannot adjudge with even the merest hint of analytical ability. If you cannot understand Zeke’s consistently insightful comments and hard work on your behalf, then multiple question marks and other idiosyncratic punctuation and grammar are not going to help you.

    *Yawn* [still ignoring nic] *Yawn*

  26. Paul says

    I am no expert, but I only hope that these people who will help Obama (of I will vote for him) come out in the numbers as they have been in the primaries. Quite frankly the republican machine is smart at getting the masses out to vote, which is why we have given up the Whitehouse in two election. pure laziness…get out and vote. Especially the young people. If the college students who are of voting age would have voted…Bush would have LOST the last election. the problem is that the republicans know how to fire up their voters…last election it was gay marriage…this election who knows. but they know how to do it.
    And don’t think that just because Obama is running against McCain that this election is going to be a slam dunk. there some major hurdles to get over.
    McCain may be boring as a speaker, but we have had a bufoon in the Whitehouse for 8 years who is supposedly a Yale graduate and cannot articulate a sentence to save his life.
    and once again, remember neither candidate is for gay marriage. civil unions give us second class citizenship…remember that.
    now, i don’t know if Hiliary will be asked to run along side of Obama, probrably not, but I will say this I like the fact she is for nationwide healthcare. Healthcare should not be a privilge but a right!! damnit!!

  27. AdamN says

    As an Obama supporter, if Hillary Clinton had won fair and square, I would not only vote for her but also donate money and possibly even work for her campaign. I would have done all these things holding my nose but I would NEVER talk shit and work against our party’s nominee in such an important election.
    To advocate sitting out this election or, even worse, voting McCain is reprehensible as fellow Democrats, or even fellow gay people. A McCain win would be an absolute disaster for our country and for the gay community. Nothing would be done about the war, healthcare, the environment, or our broken economy. The courts will be stacked with more anti-gay judges setting back gay rights for many years. By 2012, our country would be in even worse shape and there is no guarantee that Clinton would win the nomination or the election at that point; or that she would be able to correct the MASSIVE problems that McCain would leave her.
    I’m sorry that your favorite nominee did not win, Clinton supporters. But this election is FAR too important to sit out and allow McCain to win. Please, PLEASE reconsider and if not actively try to help elect Obama at least vote for him as a vote against McCain.

  28. Jimmyboyo says

    LIZ

    You claim the dem party no longer exists.

    Please list the traits of the dem party that you think once did exist and supported your ideals.
    thank you

  29. Jimmyboyo says

    To all true Clinton supporters like DaveNYC

    Not to any log cabinites masquerading as clinton fans to stir up trouble but in reality hate clinton as much as you hate obama

    Look to the AIPAC meeting today.

    It is being reported that Senator Clinton DEFENDED Obama against all the attacks that mccain had brought up a week earlier at the same place.

    Following closely on the heels of obama’s speach, Hilarry was not derogatory towards Obama but in fact was supportive of him.

    I commend Hillary and look to you her supporters to be like her in defending Obama against repub attacks.

    I do not expect you to vote for him. I would prefer it, but as long as you do not vote for mccain then all can be well.

  30. Daniel says

    Rudy:
    If insulting someone for making a spelling error is your definition of a “big” person…than I will continue to be part of the “little people” with pleasure.

    I understand you are excited about your candidate winning and I recognize that and my hats off to you and yours, that was not my point though.

    Us “little people” that voted for Hillary are almost 18,000,000 strong in the primaries, some like myself voted for her for more stringent reasons that I addressed in earlier posts. That should be okay, we all don’t have to step in line and vote for Obama for us to be patriotic and principled. I am an American first, a democrat second. If you have a problem with that, that’s your problem, not mine.

    So if you need to pat yourself on the back for pulling the party together post Obama’s win and insult me for not supporting Obama (and wrong spelling), help yourself.

    But don’t kid yourself in thinking that just because someone else doesn’t follow your logic that we are in any way not wanting the best for our country, and us in the gay community as well.

    My principles guide me, not the wind and not you.

  31. Osman says

    Adamn…thank you for your post. Fellow Clinton supporter, I’m also very sorry that she did not win. But..GET OVER IT. Really THINK about what you want to see while living in America for the next few years and then decide if you really want to vote for McCain.

  32. soulbrotha says

    Daniel, you are entitled to your opinions, but I don’t see any justification in them at all.

    1. If you have been visiting this site regularly, there is no way in hell that you can portray Obama’s supporters being more vitriolic than Clinton’s. Go back and read the archives.

    2. Your “trust” issues are lame. While it is true that a great speech does not make a great leader, neither does being the wife of a former president. They are on equal ground.
    “I do not trust people that will act sweet to my face and do and say nasty things behind my back, or worse yet, have others do their dirty work for them.” That sounds more like Hillary’s tactics than Obama. When has he EVER done that?
    And please stop trying to blame Obama for your precious state’s mistakes. Florida broke the rules and fucked up your vote and must now live with the consequences. Period. Deal with it.

    3. So I guess that Hillary lying to the press about her Bosnia experience and her refusal to concede for the good of the party are judgments that prove her presidential mettle? And why should Obama make knee-jerk decisions based on the sermons/words of a minister? Are we responsible for anything stupid that you might say on Towleroad simply because we visit here daily? Obama made decisions that were extremely difficult for him which in my opinion, proves that he is not just some cold, calculating politico.

    Obama has never played himself to be anybody’s Messiah. THAT nonsense was created by, guess who? CLINTON SUPPORTERS! Yet whenever Hillary would do some wack shit, her supporters would NEVER own up to it! They just kept pointing fingers at Obama and whine that she was getting a raw deal! ENOUGH ALREADY!

    From the very beginning people kept saying that Obama and Hillary’s policies were identical. So if you are truly anti-Bush, there is no justification for not voting or voting for McCain, other than sour grapes or racism or both. Call it what it REALLY is, Daniel.

  33. daniel says

    Jeffrob:
    No, I haven’t served in Iraq, nor do I have any plans to. But I do have a Marine brother-in-law who has been serving 18 years, a nephew serving in Iraq NOW in the Air Force, and a niece who is going thru basic training right now.
    So your point is what???? Because I’m not voting for either candidate because of policy and trust issues, I need to be signing up for military service.
    Has Barrack served in the military?
    Have you or are you planning on serving in the military Jeffrob?

  34. daveynyc says

    Unite Unite Unite…Eventually the party WILL unite but at this point in the game it doesn’t matter.

    Have you all got amnesia?

    Don’t you know what the Republicans are capable of…? True, we have gotten so use to the idiot Bush that we forget that the Republicans are capable of MIRACLES.

    The republicans have no integrity; they will use every evil trick to get into the White House you can think of. The Republicans are smart, and will stoop to levels we Dems would never dream of.

    If you think America is over 9/11 and their fear of terrorists, just you wait another few months when all of a sudden, a “new” Bin Laden tape surfaces or the CIA “Gets Info” on a possible attack and then ONCE AGAIN security becomes ONE of the big issues that will get McCain elected, along with all the evils of gay marriage and every other piece of nonsense and spin you can think of.

    Only Hillary could have withstood something like that..I like Obama, what’s not to like…? But he is NOT Presidential material…Hill WAS our way in, 18 million of us knew that and she definitely knew that which is why she NEVER quit. Obama’s nomination may be a historic event for America but it comes at the cost of the White House.

  35. says

    Actually, Daniel, I understood your point all too clearly.

    Of course, if you feel, come November, that you can vote neither for McCain nor Obama in good conscience, then you have the right to sit out the election. Given the state of this country, what seems like integrity to you seems like misjudgment to me, particularly since your candidate WILL be backing Obama, but, hey, it’s just my opinion.

    What seems odd to me is that people who believe in Hillary (count me among them) and in the issues she strongly supports would, before the general election has even begun, not at least keep an open mind towards a man whose positions are nearly identical to hers. The rush to walk away from this election, one that is indisputably important, to start dreaming about a candidacy what may never happen (HIllary 2012!) seems more like bitterness and denial than integrity.

  36. soulbrotha says

    Dave, you begin your remarks with the word UNITE and end it totally sour and disunified.

    The fact is you have no idea what Obama or Hillary can or cannot “withstand.” So if you are truly for “UNITY,” then stop the fear mongering and support the nominee.

  37. JeffRob says

    Daniel-

    You don’t need to sign up for military service because you’re “not voting for either candidate because of policy and trust issues”. You need to sign up for military service because you say you will not support our only real chance of bringing our troops home.

    If you’re not 100% in support of ending the US military occupation in Iraq, and committed to voting thusly, then you are by deduction in support of continuing said occupation. So, go sign up.

    For the record, I have two cousins currently in Iraq, and one in Afghanistan. And I want them all home (or at least in the right place, going after bin Laden directly) in 2009, regardless of who the President is. That’s why I would be 100% behind Hillary right now had she won.

    Priorities. Straight. That’s all I’m sayin. Your vote for Obama could very well mean the lives of your brother-in-law, nephew and niece.

    DaveNYC (and Daniel)- Say whatever you want now, just please, please, please vote to end this idiotic war come Nov.

    It is priority #1.

  38. daniel says

    Soulbrotha:
    I appreciate your difference of opinion, however, let me be clear.

    1. The Florida election date was moved up by a Republican state senate and a Republican Governor, fought against by the state democrats trying to adhere to DNC rules. Hillary won that election, but the votes were penalized on the democrats side for a Republican decision made in Florida.
    The Clinton campaign offered a re-vote with no guarantees of her to win again.
    Obama said no to this option all the while saying on TV “all votes should count”… but not Florida

    2. And I’m sorry you think my words are stupid, but to compare visiting a comment section of a website to Rev Wright/Obama is quite a stretch.
    You aren’t writing books glorifying my words and donating money to me, so the two don’t even come close to comparing.

    3. I think the hate has gone both ways from Hillary lovers and Obama lovers, the difference to me is that Obama says no negative, old style politics…and what do we get from a lot of his supporters…old hate filled politics.

    Just because I disagree with many on here politically about Obama…just look at the insults towards me today.

  39. Kyle says

    Clinton?
    Really?
    Clinton = DOMA, DADT, HIV travel ban, etc etc. Whatever did they do for us other than pander and take $$?

    Wake up, homos! At least Obama just lumps us in with the rest of the subgroups and doesn’t attempt to massage our ‘specialness’ for money.

  40. JeffRob says

    Daniel- If I may, you wrote:

    “3. I think the hate has gone both ways from Hillary lovers and Obama lovers, the difference to me is that Obama says no negative, old style politics…and what do we get from a lot of his supporters…old hate filled politics.”

    I’m glad to know that some of your disdain for Obama is based on your having a higher standard for him.

  41. sugarrhill says

    People, don’t feed the trolls.

    As a Clinton supporter, I’m 100% behind Obama. There is nothing more dangerous than thinking we’ve already lost this election because your preferred candidate didn’t make the cut. Obama still has months to pull the party together. And I have no doubt that he’ll trounce McCain during any debate. The election isn’t over so let’s cease with the DOA.

  42. Jimmyboyo says

    Daniel

    1) Re- review your history book. The Flroida dem party did not unanimously fight the movement in dates.

    Obama said no to a mail in revote, something florida has no experience with. Obama sugested a caucus revote and Hillary herself said no. BOTH candidates said no to a revote that wasn’t their particular prefernce in the way it should be held.

    The compromise was presented by the FLORIDA DEM STATE PARTY. It was voted on and won by a UNANIMOUS vote. ALL hillary supporters on the comittee accepted the compromise even Ickes who is a paid clinton staffer.

    Anyway; with the 15+ superdelegates today and all the ones last night, even if you fully seat florida as it was…. Obama still wins the nomination.

    2) through etc =

    I myself have not called you stupid nor insulted you.

    Honestly, I was ignoring you.

    I don’t remember seeing you post that much here before while being all pro Hillary unlike DaveNYC who I know is pro-hillary through and through.

    For all I know you can be a log cabinite who hates hillary in reality and are just trying to stir up trouble.

    Like i said, I was simply ignoring you till you presented information that was not accurate.

  43. says

    It didn’t matter anyway. I was planning on voting for McCain.

    That is what I love about the country, that one can vote for whom he wants to elect and does not get killed for it.

    Now as far as being outcasted in the gay community. Well let’s say the gay community has a long way to go in that regard.

    If you can’t recognize the humor in it, then that is on you.

    (Waiting for the flames)

  44. Jimmyboyo says

    yeah Mike because you hate women and brown
    people.

    You hate yourself because gods that be know that you would never ever benefit from those tax cuts that are only going to the top 1% anyway.

    mysoginistic and racist self hating gays are funny that way

    Peace be with you and take care

  45. soulbrotha says

    Daniel,

    1. The fact remains that your elected officials, who represent your state, chose to arrogantly break the rules and took away your vote. The rules were not a secret. They are there for a reason. From what I remember reading, Florida could not afford the millions of dollars needed to stage a re-vote. So who was supposed to pay for it? The Dem party? The taxpayers of other states? Look, this is why rules are put in place. Lessoned learned, game over. Time to move on.

    2. I didn’t say your words were stupid. I gave a hypothetical example. And autobiographies and campaign donations have nothing to do with this NON-issue. It’s a trumped up charge of guilt by association, which is garbage. Thats like saying you are responsible for what your mama says and vice versa. That was my point.

    3. Again, I suggest that you go back and read the archives. Instead of dealing with the posted story, Hillary’s supporters would go on long, garrulous tirades against Obama.

    “…Just because I disagree with many on here politically about Obama…just look at the insults towards me today.”

    At least you are being criticized for YOUR remarks, Daniel, and not your pastor’s. How about extending the same courtesy?

  46. says

    “yeah Mike because you hate women and brown
    people.

    You hate yourself because gods that be know that you would never ever benefit from those tax cuts that are only going to the top 1% anyway.

    Misogynistic [corrected] and racist self hating gays are funny that way.

    Peace be with you and take care.”

    What is funny is when someone tries to rip you a new asshole but tries to wish you peace after he disturbs it.

    I am a little confused here. You tell me.

  47. says

    “yeah Mike because you hate women and brown
    people.

    You hate yourself because gods that be know that you would never ever benefit from those tax cuts that are only going to the top 1% anyway.

    Misogynistic [corrected] and racist self hating gays are funny that way.

    Peace be with you and take care.”

    What is funny is when someone tries to rip you a new asshole but tries to wish you peace after he disturbs it.

    I am a little confused here. You tell me.

  48. says

    “yeah Mike because you hate women and brown
    people.

    You hate yourself because gods that be know that you would never ever benefit from those tax cuts that are only going to the top 1% anyway.

    Misogynistic [corrected] and racist self hating gays are funny that way.

    Peace be with you and take care.”

    What is funny is when someone tries to rip you a new asshole but tries to wish you peace after he disturbs it.

    I am a little confused here. You tell me.

  49. Daniel says

    My final word of the day! :) I know many on here will be happy!

    I have been a reader of Andy’s website for a few years, posted a comment on occasion, and read posts by others countless times.

    I don’t have the time to leave my opinion everyday, nor do I care to.

    For all of you that have a counter for everything I say, I love that you are passionate about your views. I am just as passionate, and there should be nothing wrong with that.

    We can agree to disagree and that’s cool.

    But I can tell from the cut and paste “facts” about the Florida vote that none of the posters here live in Florida or really know what went on, but that’s ok.

    I think it is great you all are excited about Obama, I wish you well.

    Just don’t run someone off for voicing their own opinion.

    Have a great day, I’m going out on the jet-ski!

  50. Jimmyboyo says

    If you are a true hillary supporter Daniel

    Then I appologize for my dismissing you out of hand.

    You have to understand that everybody’s nerves on both sides are sensitive at the moment. Take into count operation chaos as well as McCain openly advertising for internet trolls. Mccain is even giving away points to his trolls, what you get for those points hasn’t been advertised yet.

    The greatest fear at the moment of repubs is the dem party uniting.

    The greatest fear at the moment of the repubs is the dem party uniting

    Let me stress that again :-) The greatest fear of the repub party at the moment is the dem party uniting.

    Again; I appologize for dismissing you and your concerns. I can’t speak for anybody else here, but from I reach out to you as a fellow liberal/ dem who will agree to disagree with you.

    If for whatever reason you can not eventualy vote for Obama, just do not vote mccain nor get in the way of those who are supporting Obama and going hard core to defeat bush 2.0 mcsame

    Mike

    I don’t wish you bodily harm thus Peace be with you, but I do wish you to keep your pro mccain BS to yourself.

    Get serious, why support the repub brand if you aren’t ever going to get those huge tax cuts and mcsame is now not going to disown the anti gay marriage amendment?

    Anyway; the repub brand is DOA at the moment. Heck, a lot of old guard repubs actualy want Obama to win in the hopes that you guys while out in the wilderness can clean up your act.

    Don’t take comfort in any polls piting mccain against Obama. Many Hillary supporters polled pro mccain just because they were against Obama at the time of the poll. Now that the party is moving to unity the polls are showing a huge drop for mccain. I am going to go out on a limb and predict 60% pop vote for Obama to 40% mccain with over 310+ electoral college votes for Obama.

  51. Tom says

    I’ve been to almost all the major blogs this primary season, and nearly without fail Obama supporters have been the ones trashing Hillary and her supporters nonstop. Hillary supporters have done their share of sniping, but most often the hate- and invective-filled screeds have come from the Obama supporters. I challenge anyone to peruse some of the threads from the last five months on Daily Kos, Huffington Post, TPM, et al. and then tell me different. On the Clinton-aligned blogs like Talking Points and Taylor Marsh, the blog owners have bent over backwards to keep things civil, banning attacks on Obama and his supporters outright, while they themselves have received heapings of abuse and threats at the hands of the Obama people. On the Obama blogs, you can call Clinton or her supporters anything under the sun without any consequences–it doesn’t matter how horrendous, it’s a-OK. Important questions about Obama’s qualifications are routinely called attacks. You ask about his suspicious Chicago connections or his lackluster career in the Illinois State Senate, and you’re accused of attacking him, rather than questioning his qualifications, and you’re called a Republican, a racist, or an uneducated hick. I also vigorously questioned John Edwards qualifications, but I never received a similar backlash.

    Do I think that people who prefer Obama to Clinton are sexists? Absolutely not. That kind of jumping to conclusions would be ridiculous. Do I think they’re Republicans? Absurd. That’s why it seems so crazy to me to see the accusations coming at Hillary supporters. And when I see those kinds of trends, it suggests to me that many Obama supporters lack clear-sightedness and reasonableness, which validates my doubts about their ability to judge the relative merits of the candidates.

    I don’t want John McCain to be president. I will not vote for him. But I don’t believe that Obama is electable. I do believe that Hillary would have been elected if nominated. You can call me a cynic or a pessimist, but if you call me a racist or a Republican, you’re showing only your own ignorance and poor judgment.

    –“The power of clear vision is called cynicism by those who have not got it.” –George Bernard Shaw

  52. Jimmyboyo says

    Tom

    Actualy no

    MyDD for example has seen many death threats posted about Obama and not one single word or blocking of IP #s from Jerome the owner and administrator of MyDD

    Taylor Marsh in fact has been just the opposite of what you claim, but i will give her this much….today she told the washington post that she will support Obama over mccain.

    Anyway;

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=4996520&page=1

    Hillary is letting go of the bulk of her staff, they are being told their last day is friday

  53. Jimmyboyo says

    Oh and Senator Barbara Boxer has now switched from Hillary to Obama.

    Boxer had publicly endorsed Hillary, then recently said she would not be party to a floor fight at the convention, she has now honored her word and switched from Hillary to Obama.

    Unity has begun

  54. JeffRob says

    Tom-
    I would say that the reason Clinton-aligned blogs forbade nasty, all-out attacks on Obama is because they were so frequent on their sites to begin with, they had no choice. If you don’t think pro-Hillary, down-in-the-mud, low-hitting attacks on Obama aren’t commonplace, then you haven’t been perusing as many blogs as you claim.

    Secondly, I find it hilarious that Hillary successfully applied the “underdog” tag on herself after Super Tues and losing 11 straight, considering she was always the Democratic Anointed One up until that point.

    Hillary’s folks claim that Obama’s camp somehow had this magic aligning with the media against her, as if they just couldn’t understand why Hillary wasn’t the media darling all along.

    No, there was no Vast Left Wing conspiracy afoot. No one aligned against Hillary for the sake of aligning against her. If it’s not painfully clear to you now, Obama won because he is simply the far, far superior candidate. He was always the underdog, and he managed to beat the biggest, best Democratic machine of our time.

    So, Tom, on Nov 4, does Obama have your vote?

  55. Jimmyboyo says

    To add to the taylor marsh thing

    in the interview with the washington post she has said that her own fans and posters at her own site have flooded her with “HATE MAIL” = her words for now supporting Obama over mccain.

    There has been a lot of anger and hateful speach on BOTH sides. obama supporters NOR Hillary supporters are saints and neither side can claim the mantle of angelic beings.

    BUT that doesn’t mean we can’t come together and get along now.

    http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=4705151&page=1

    ABC news is reporting that Hillary is supposedly dropping out on Friday

    I have pimped an Obama/ Hillary ticket for a while now, is it too late for that? Who knows, but we must unite if we wish to fix the fiasco of busch which measn defeating bush 2.0 mccain who has voted 95% in line with bush.

  56. Zeke says

    Sorry DANIEL, wrong yet again.

    I live in Florida and I know EXACTLY what happened here.

    I also know that it was OUR votes that were at stake NOT Senator Clinton’s. Most Floridians are happy with the compromise and the Florida delegation got exactly what they asked for. I’m sorry if that doesn’t please you or Senator Clinton. Next time, rather than complaining that you don’t like the GIFT of compromise that was offered to your candidate once playing by the rules didn’t suit her campaign) make sure that your candidate’s advisors don’t help write, promote and sign on to rules that he/she will be unhappy to play by when the going gets tough.

  57. Tom says

    We’ll all have to agree to disagree. My experience contradicts your impressions. I’ve been on those sites every day. I’ve seen the endless hateful screeds against Hillary that for the most part have had little to do with reality. The fact is most of them liked Hillary OK until she stood in the way of the chosen one. After that his followers each made it their mission to do their small part to destroy her and her followers. It reminded me of nothing more than the anti-Gore and anti-Kerry antics of the Bush’s supporters in 2000 and 2004. Instead of viewing Hillary as the competition, they made her the enemy, along with all of her followers–calling them racists and Republicans, etc. Those curses were the equivalent of the Republicans’ old standby “anti-American,” or “if you aren’t with us, you’re against us” or “Why do you hate America?” That level of hate being directed at fellow Dems was a dealbreaker for me. The truth is, I may leave the party and register as an Independent. I most likely won’t be voting for Obama. I’ll be sitting this one out. I can’t vote Republican, but I can’t reward the Obama campaign and DNC for their abominable behavior. The internecine savagery directed at Hillary Clinton was simply unnecessary; it revealed an ugliness to people I had admired so greatly–Pelosi, Dean, Obama–and in a sense I’m still mourning the loss of my admiration for them. You know, Pelosi used to be my Rep. and I thought she was the sh*t.

    But then these supposedly neutral party leaders tried to push Hillary out of the race for months in order to write their preferred ending. Maybe you’re all okay with how it all went down, but I’m not. And, guys, please–save your typing fingers. We know that different people view the same events differently. Things that have caught my attention and offended me have gone unnoticed by you, and vice versa. And the list of qualifications for my preferred candidate clearly doesn’t match yours. We’ll achieve no resolution here. And that’s why I think it’s going to be nearly impossible to unify the party for November. Obama got his nomination, but in the process he has probably destroyed his chances for the GE.

  58. Jimmyboyo says

    Tom

    Obama is currently pollin 5-7% better than Mccain nationaly and takes states like former red state Virginia. Obama will win. I would prefer your help in making it happen, but oh well. Try not NOT voting. Writing in Hillary’s name is a valid option. My Grandfather always said that if you don’t vote then you can’t complain. Even if your choice looses you have a right to complain because you exercised your voting right. Of course I’d say vote obama, but if you can not then still excercise your right and just write in hillary’s name. I will soooooooooo respect you though disagree if you do that.

    Clyburn is reporting that since endorsing Obama, his office is recieving constant calls from people identifying themselves as hillary supporters and stating all manner of hateful racist stuff while also delivering death threats.

    You yourself might be clean as a whistle and as kind as a bunny munching on dew covered grass under a rainbow, but Hillary supporters are not innocent in this.

  59. rudy says

    Precisely Zeke! Yet some are adamant in refusing to learn the key lesson: someone who plays by the rules can defeat someone who cheats, even if the cheater established the rules initially.

    This campaign has been a repudiation of the Clintonian-Rovian style of gutter politics. HRC’s playbook was patterned after Rove’s strategy of forcing the rules to apply only to the “other guy”. What many people who cannot abide the Clintons object to is repeated examples of them not applying the rules to themselves because they are “smarter” or their goals are “noble” or some other BS. I have had the misfortune to work with many of these late ’60s Yalies who were taught that the ends justified the means because they were the chosen people whose moral goals made deceitful tactics not only acceptable but the “greater good”. I can now point to this example for my law students in urging them to do good while being good. Believe passionately but play/fight fair. My cattle rancher father had it right many years ago when his blessing/warning/guidance was simply, “You know the rules.”

    Now, the younger generation of voters has had this inscribed in their hearts. (Okay, a bit twee but I am overjoyed by the political developments this week.) I am increasingly hopeful that Obama will defeat McCain and am working hard to ensure that outcome. I remain cautiously optimistic that this election could be a blowout of historic proportions.

    What initially appealed to many about McCain was his good guy posture as a political independent who played by the rules. In selling his political soul to the far right Falwellians he has, I believe, sealed his political doom. The conservatives have not rallied to him and the independents have abandoned him.

    Do not despair those Clinton supporters who claim they will not vote for Obama. He was never going to get the votes of the bigots. Obama can, and I believe will, earn the votes of the younger generation who do not suffer the prejudices of their elders. The key is to turn out the voters.

  60. Daniel says

    Rudy:
    Just because someone won’t vote for Obama doesn’t make them a racist.
    I think everyone has a right to vote for whomever they feel they would want to hire for the job.
    STOP WITH THE NAME CALLING…it gets us no closer to coming together.

    I would never vote McCain, so I think Jimmyboyo’s write-in suggestion is a great option for us who feel Hillary is the best for the job.

    We all come at life from different angles, why is it we can’t offer our opinion and have dialog without insulting each other personally?

    Jimmyboyo:
    I appreciate your comments to me yesterday!

  61. rudy says

    Michael, Once again, you have serious reading comprehension problems. I have never called anyone on this blog a “racist”. Check the archives. I have consistently stated my opinion–and I continue to believe–that Obama would not get the votes of “bigots”. (Look it up; there is a difference. I choose my words carefully.)

    There are others who will not vote for him for other reasons; however, if you want to self-identify as a bigot, far be from me to stop you.

    You also apparently have difficulty analyzing the behaviour of others. Hillary has completely mis-managed the three things for which she was publicly responsible: (1) her marriage to Bill entails on-going pyschodrama (I do not care who he sodomizes–I do not think it should be part of the political arena but Bill’s serial girlfriends and Hillary’s serial enablement have made it so); (2) the health care reform debacle (HRC maintained absolute control and secrecy [where have we seen that behaviour on the part of government officials, to our detriment, before?] and thereby killed her own proposal (those most upset should be those favoring health care reform); (3) her campaign for President (this is the first CONTESTED election that HRC has run in (the pathetic shells the Repubs ran in NY remain a joke) and she blew through a twenty point lead despite the backing of the entire Democratic political machine; you cannot blame her staff (looking at you Jim’bo) because she hired and directed every one of them. HRC could not even win a nominating process that her staff rigged in her favor.

    HRC’s continuing lament of victimhood is ridiculous. She is the problem and would have brought about political gridlock had she succeeded.

    Really Michael, you must think before you write. I trust that you will do so before you vote. People who employed your voting strategy in the last election gave us George W. Bush. Do you want to commit political hara kiri once again and help McCain to get elected?

    Grieve and get over it. Help us elect a President Obama who will defend your civil rights, despite your infatuation with Hillary.

  62. soulbrotha says

    Here is the laundry list that speaks for itself, courtesy of the brilliant Keith O:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1MOOIjs_HE

    Many of HRC’s supporters (i.e Repuglican wolves in Dem’s clothing) have tried to trash Obama’s character by his associations, but have REFUSED to examine what has come out of Clinton’s OWN MOUTH! So much so, that they would rather have a write-in vote?! And yet they swear it isn’t about race, it’s about who is best for the job? Don’t piss in my cup and then tell me it’s apple juice, honey!

    Speak the truth and shame the devil.

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