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McCain Feigns Cluelessness, then Defends Fiorina $45M Severance

Mccain_vieiraThis morning on NBC, Meredith Vieira questioned John McCain about placing the blame for some of the trouble on Wall Street on CEO greed while putting Carly Fiorina at the head of his economic policy team. Fiorina walked away from Hewlett-Packard with a $45 million golden parachute severance package after being fired while 20,000 others were laid off.

McCain claims he does "not know the details" of that, and then claims Fiorina deserved it because she was a good CEO.

Fiorina, as you may know, has been largely removed from the public eye. Last week, a McCain advisor told CNN that "Carly will now disappear" after she made a statement that neither McCain nor Palin had the qualifications to run a major corporation. Fiorina also said that neither Obama nor Biden had them either.

Watch Vieira's interview, AFTER THE JUMP...

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  1. McCain sounds more and more like "Grandpa Simpson" everday.

    Posted by: okie | Sep 22, 2008 11:58:14 AM

  2. ...and yet [sadly] McCain is getting votes. (sigh) It's "W" all over again.

    Posted by: CJ | Sep 22, 2008 12:05:56 PM

  3. Are you sure he's 'feigning' cluelessness?

    Posted by: David D. | Sep 22, 2008 12:06:24 PM

  4. hey john john . . . life is sorta lived in the details.

    Posted by: bp | Sep 22, 2008 12:20:09 PM

  5. You know what? How about some Congressional hearings? The Democrats love sticking their noses in things that don't matter like Baseball but seems to miss the boat on others.

    The first hearing should be on the collapse of Fannie and Freddie. They will need to drag in Clinton cronies Garelick, Rains, and Johnson to explain why they got millions of dollars running the corporation into the ground under the government's nose.

    For that matter maybe some questions to Mr. Obama as to why he is the second largest beneficiary from Freddie and Fannie of campaign donations while it was being run into the ground.

    Posted by: Las Vegas | Sep 22, 2008 12:23:18 PM

  6. Meredith Vera?! What, was Kelly Ripa too busy? Jeez, talk about a softball interviewer.

    Posted by: RP | Sep 22, 2008 12:34:57 PM

  7. *Vieira

    (Note to self, don't type while hungover)

    Posted by: RP | Sep 22, 2008 12:36:03 PM

  8. McFeign... it applies.

    Posted by: John in Manhattan | Sep 22, 2008 12:39:52 PM

  9. LAS VEGAS, I know it is painful to LCRs to stay on topic but please give it a shot. We're talking here about McCain's disingenuousness, not Clinton's or even Obama's. If you insist on bringing Obama into it, I'd like to know how money from FM&FM has anything to do with McCain having a double standard for Fiorina and not even knowing basic stuff about the woman?

    So far in this campaign young Barack has really run rings around old Johnny. Obama is a great orator, a good debater, pleasant, a quick thinker, polite, clear and on message. McCain is slow-witted, boring, petulant, uninformed, flip-flopping and confused at the best of times. And Palin is a sham.

    Posted by: sexyback | Sep 22, 2008 12:40:20 PM

  10. @sexyback

    Wow - do you work for the Obama campaign? Obama has shown himself to be a just OK debater, has flipflopped on a number of positions himself, and not always clear (heard him in a townhall the other day - it was kind of painful). He has shown himself that he can run a campaign very well - but so has McCain. McCain also singlehandly changed this campaign by choosing Palin. It may be a sham to you but it was a brilliant move.

    In other words they are both politicians who will lie and cheat to get to office. McCain is just doing it better.

    (not a republican or a democrat)

    Posted by: yoshi | Sep 22, 2008 1:03:05 PM

  11. Las Vegas,

    Why not also talk about how McCain's campaign manager was paid $2 million by Fannie Mae to kiss up to John McCain?


    "Loan Titans Paid McCain Adviser Nearly $2 Million
    Published: September 21, 2008

    Senator John McCain’s campaign manager was paid more than $30,000 a month for five years as president of an advocacy group set up by the mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to defend them against stricter regulations, current and former officials say....

    Incensed by the advertisements, several current and former executives of the companies came forward to discuss the role that Rick Davis, Mr. McCain’s campaign manager and longtime adviser, played in helping Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac beat back regulatory challenges when he served as president of their advocacy group, the Homeownership Alliance, formed in the summer of 2000. Some who came forward were Democrats, but Republicans, speaking on the condition of anonymity, confirmed their descriptions.

    “The value that he brought to the relationship was the closeness to Senator McCain and the possibility that Senator McCain was going to run for president again,” said Robert McCarson, a former spokesman for Fannie Mae, who said that while he worked there from 2000 to 2002, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac together paid Mr. Davis’s firm $35,000 a month. Mr. Davis “didn’t really do anything,” Mr. McCarson, a Democrat, said."

    But as another said, LCR parasites can only robotically parrot programmed lies. Why don't you find a nice Republican site to with equally pathetic losers?

    No tolerance for Republican scumbags!

    Posted by: noah | Sep 22, 2008 1:07:27 PM

  12. He's still pulling for those Hillary votes...at the end of the clip he begins to extoll Fiorina's virtues "part time secretary, rose to be CEO, blah, blah, blah...". Unfortunately, the women of America are too smart to buy into McCain's pandering. Most of Hillary's female supporters are not voting McCain simply because he put a woman on his ticket.

    Posted by: peterparker | Sep 22, 2008 1:09:37 PM

  13. Yoshi, with Palin's and McCain's numbers tanking, it's hard to say her selection was a "brilliant" move. It was obviously merely a political move that risks our country's future should McCain win and then die in office. Her selection shows that he is morally unfit to be President. No Obama decision is even comparable.

    Posted by: Chester | Sep 22, 2008 1:16:25 PM

  14. McCain also singlehandly changed this campaign by choosing Palin. It may be a sham to you but it was a brilliant move.

    In other words they are both politicians who will lie and cheat to get to office. McCain is just doing it better.

    (not a republican or a democrat)

    POSTED BY: YOSHI | SEP 22, 2008 1:03:05 PM
    So McDouche Bag is brilliant because he is a better liar? Man you GOP trolls are too much. Doesn't Rush have a blog for you? Or LCR?

    Posted by: patrick nyc | Sep 22, 2008 1:32:19 PM

  15. Noah,

    Why don't you read your own article instead of merely cutting and pasting it. It says he was paid because McCain and more than a few other senators thought that Fannie and Freddie at the time were out fo control and heading for trouble.

    So the Democrats who were running Fannie and Freddie thought it might be a good idea to pay someone to get to John McCain instead. He wasn't the only one by the way and his resolve to regulate those entities remained strong. So once again fannie and Freddie made a poor investment that we now get to pay on.

    You may not have a tolerance for Republican scumbags but my tolerance to school you and other liberals in learning to actually think about what you say remains quite strong.

    Posted by: Las Vegas | Sep 22, 2008 1:45:31 PM

  16. By all accounts, Fiorina was an *awful* CEO of HP. She tied some of the pensions of longtime employees to the market and they were wiped out (which sounds like McCain's proposals for Social Security) and the quality of products took a nose dive from which it has not yet recovered. They gave her the severance package because they were desperate to get rid of her. And no other business has hired her since because of her horrible record...which is why she is an "adviser" to the McCain campaign. What valuable advice she has to offer is beyond me.

    Posted by: CHZ | Sep 22, 2008 1:50:16 PM

  17. Las Vegas, go back to school, hon. "The Democrats were running" Fannie and Freddie? lol.

    Posted by: Chester | Sep 22, 2008 1:59:08 PM

  18. The only reason anyone would say Obama is just an "okay debater" is because he's actually a very good debater. To clarify, what passes for "debates" in today's discourse are not actually debates, and he is, admittedly, not the best at them. That's why I think the decision to go for more "free-flowing" debates (at least on Friday) is a decision that could very well benefit him.

    Posted by: Jason (A) | Sep 22, 2008 2:03:48 PM

  19. The fact that there is even a notable percentage of Republican voters on this blog point to all being lost for America. The rest of the world hates your government -- when you re-elected it, the rest of the world is now "over" Americans too. You have no health care, a multi-trillion-dollar debt load, and no basic gay civil rights. And you would vote those criminals in AGAIN? Wow, y'all are gonna reap a whirlwind if you do.

    Posted by: Strepsi | Sep 22, 2008 2:24:04 PM

  20. Oh, and by the way, here's Mr. LAS VEGAS Troll talking point memo, basically a regurgitation of an item in the very impartial and factual World Net Daily. Boy, he's doing a lotta thinking himself about what's he's schoolin': http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=75586

    Posted by: Blue Dog | Sep 22, 2008 2:38:14 PM

  21. I adore Meredith Viera, and when she's given the opportunity to show her journalistic chops--honed on "60 Minutes" pre-"The View"--she works 'em. She grilled McCain's campaign director 2 Fridays ago like a cheese sandwich, and clearly isn't going to let the Repubs stick to easy soundbites. Good for her.

    Posted by: Dback | Sep 22, 2008 2:44:17 PM

  22. Las vegas

    Lies lies lies

    - "...The Democrats love sticking their noses in things that don't matter like Baseball."

    LOL repub majority congress did that one

    - Freddie Mae, Fannie Mac were not driven into the ground during Clinton's yrs. The exact opposite in fact. The driving into the ground happened within the first yrs of Bush's regime. In Fact it really started getting bad 3 yrs into Bush and repub congress regime. Also managers from both told the NYT that they paid mccain's campaign guy because of his friendship with mccain (worked his 2000 campaign) and suspected he would work mccains 2004 campaign (is)....that they paid him to influence mcshame to DE-REGULATE them. Which in fact he did. Can you name 1 piece of regulatory bill that mcshame supported in refernce to both these past 8 yrs? 2003 support of Bush's proposal of a new oversight groups of both doesn't count since the fine print of the bill shows the so-called new oversight of both would in fact put them under LESS regulation than previously.

    - mcshame VOTED!!!!!!!!!!!! to de-regulate both. You claim "...his resolve to regulate those entities remained strong..." while mcshame's ACTIONS = see above

    Posted by: jimmyboyo | Sep 22, 2008 2:48:51 PM

  23. PS

    Mcshame can not/ will not rule out Phil Gramm as treasury secretary in his administration..


    Phil gramm who brought us the Gramm-leach-Biley Act that started this mess by doing away with FDR era Glass Stegal act that regulated banks, mortgage companies, and insurance companies.

    Gramm who has been a de-regulator since 1980's

    Posted by: jimmyboyo | Sep 22, 2008 2:52:51 PM

  24. He's such a double-talking dufus: a real politician, in other words. And America is still going for his bait like they did with Bush. Unbelievable,

    Posted by: nikko | Sep 22, 2008 3:08:14 PM

  25. LV

    You might claim 2005 bill..... Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005...was mcshame trying to regulate both

    fact = opposed by majority of repubs thus killing it since dems were in the minority 2005.

    In fact Mcshame never ever fought for the bill. He only tacked his name on it as 1 of 3 co-sponsors. Chuck Hagel was the sponsor.

    It is easy to support a bill for PR when one doesn't even fight for it amongst fellow repubs who killed it.

    Little known talked about provision of it

    "...Excludes the Federal Home Loan Banks from certain securities reporting requirements..."

    mcshame's cosponsoring a bill at regulating both in fact de-regulated both as far as oversight.


    Posted by: Jimmyboyo | Sep 22, 2008 3:18:02 PM

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