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  1. Cj says

    At first I had mixed feelings about Jay Leno, as Andy has posted in the past, Leno has been known for making jokes at the expense of the gay community. However, he has personally donated money to fight Prop. 8 AND made public speaking appearances in support of gay marriage. With Ellen DeGeneres making this appearance with Leno, I have new found respect for Leno. Kudos to them both.

  2. CJ says

    Mark, I could understand the lesbian double-standard. However, why did Leno donate money as well as his free time to fight Prop. 8? I do not excuse his past behavior, but I do appreciate his efforts when a lot of out homosexual celebrities and public figures have yet to do so themselves.

  3. Leland Frances says

    Good as far as it went but she’s throwing paper airplanes while the other side is throwing nuclear bombs with their ads and mass mailings and pulpit pontifications permeated with poisonous lies and having successfully resurrected “homosexual agenda” terror across California [and Florida and Arizona].

    Come on Ellen! This is THE ultimate gay rights issue, even if not all of us are partnered or even wish to be legally married. For it goes to the HEART of what being gay is really about — not who we want to fuck but whom we want to love.

    Why haven’t you thrown a huge fundraiser against Prop 8 at your Bel Air mansion as you did last Sunday for farm animals? Aren’t your fellow gay men and women worth as much? Isn’t Portia?

    At last count, there was still no evidence you had given a dime out of your Forbes-estimated $67 million fortune. Why?

    Why has virtually every major gay public figure abandoned us?

  4. Mark in NYC says

    CJ, my previous comment was meant to be a joke, based on another frequent commenter on here.

    I agree and think Leno is sincere in trying to make up for past indiscretions.

  5. Mike says

    Works for me! This is great exposure against Proposition 8 – and for that matter the initiatives in AZ and FL. The Tonite Show has a large mainstream audience. It certainly doesn’t hurt! It just further illustrates how hateful and ridiculous the anti-marriage forces are… and what a waste of time and resources. Now hopefully Arnold will go on the Tonite Show next and say a few good words…

  6. Ward says

    Was amused (or not!) that while viewing this post in Bloglines there was a Google ad at the bottom of the post for the “Yes on Marriage”/vote for “traditional marriage” proposition on the ballot here in AZ.

  7. says

    Ellen is on the right track, but where is the outrage? Would hetero’s react this passively if their families and marriages were threatened?

    It’s very sad that WE DON’T KNOW ANY BETTER as gay people. If we had enough self-esteem and respect for ourselves, we’d know better than to submit to a government and its taxation while being treated not like 2nd class, but more like 4th or 5th class “citizens”. Maybe one day we’ll know better; we’ll know (and believe) that WE DESERVE BETTER, and DEMAND IT NOW!

  8. Strepsi says

    @JOHN BISCEGLIA — I agree that you should be outraged, but I don’t think Ellen should. She doesn’t DO outrage, ever. She is the best mainstream stealth weapon we have: always aw shucks, always smiling, reasonable, accessible. Remember when Rosie switched from the Queen of Nice to a dyke-do and outrage? It killed her career. Ellen is doing GREAT, and as the most-loved woman on TV now, has done as much towards mainstraeam gay acceptance as anyone alive. Other people — us perhaps — should do the outrage and the demonstrations!

  9. JJ says

    Talk is cheap, and that’s also what Ellen DeGeneres is.

    She hasn’t given a dime to the opposition to Prop. 8.

    She should put her money where her mouth is. Does she think that cuz she says so, the bigots are suddenly going to divert their money to Habitat for Humanity?

    I think she’s a phoney, and I’m sorry I was her fan for so many years.

    Money talks….(you know the rest).

  10. JJ says

    Talk is cheap, and that’s also what Ellen DeGeneres is.

    She hasn’t given a dime to the opposition to Prop. 8.

    She should put her money where her mouth is. Does she think that cuz she says so, the bigots are suddenly going to divert their money to Habitat for Humanity?

    I think she’s a phoney, and I’m sorry I was her fan for so many years.

    Money talks….(you know the rest).

  11. soulbrotha says

    Jay Leno, a straight man who has done tasteless gay jokes, has given money to fight Prop 8 in support of gay marriage.

    Ellen Degeneres, a gay married woman who cried over a dog, has not given a dime to the fight.

    What is wrong with this picture?

  12. tegs says

    Please, Jay’s stupidity was prevalent last night when he proceeded to tell Ellen that he can’t wait for gay divorce shows to hit the networks…then said someting about fighting over ownership of the dog (can’t recall what breed he mentioned but it was a gay stereotype). Ellen was uncomfortable and clearly not amused.

  13. says

    I agree with you 100% Strepsi, Ellen should stick with her non-outraged style, but I was also referring to Leno, or pretty much ANYONE in the public eye of any orientation to simply MAKE A STAND for EQUALITY. You don’t have to be queer to think ALL HUMANS deserve Marriage Equality.

    We’re begging & pleading & paying & chanting & paying & writing letters & paying & calling senators & bending over and crawling on all 4’s, and not in a “good way”, for the same rights ALL non-LGBTIQ families enjoy. F*CK THAT. We deserve better now, not in 30 years – now.

  14. jj says

    The Donors’ names are a matter of public record. I think Ellen has some of her staffers on the blogs writing defensive comments when she’s called out for being such a tightwad. Wouldn’t it just be cheaper to give? Maybe a small donation from Ellen could lead to some Oprah money.

  15. damien says

    I hate to be this way, but I am:

    If many of you who are beating up on Jay Leno actually take the time to go back and look at past episodes of his show (especially the ones where he welcomes new, openly-gay celebrities), you’d find that he’s ALWAYS spoken supportively of gays.

    Just because he makes a couple of jokes about the fey way or asks Ryan Phillippe to sow him his “gayest face” doesn’t eradicate all of the positive things he’s said over the past 17 years. Is it disrespectful and crude? Definitely.

    On the other hand, I’ve seen Jay Leno speak positively about gays the same amount of times I have Madonna – only Leno didn’t seem to be doing it to further his public image.

    Just my 2 cents.

  16. Gregus says

    Though his intentions are good (I think), every time Leno opens his mouth he ends up sounding like some embarrassing uncle or something. Those gays, they have the cleanest neighborhoods!

    We don’t deserve equality because of clean neighborhoods, fabulous hair, six-pack abs, or any other ‘positive stereotype’. Equality is deserved because it is fair and a fundamental right.

  17. SHOWMETHEMONEY says

    I fail to see how donating money = a display of “outrage” by Ellen.

    Kudos to Reuters for this story, which will be distributed far and wide, and features a photo of Ellen & Portia:

    “Hollywood urged to give more to save gay marriage”

    http://www.reuters.com/article/entertainmentNews/idUSTRE4917WD20081002

    According to the article, No on 8 is holding an “entertainment industry fundraiser” this month.

    Hey, Ellen: Why don’t you emcee, and kick off the donation drive at the event by announcing your $1 million (OR MORE!!) gift to the campaign?

  18. Todd says

    Interestingly enough, Ms. Degeneres is not on record having given a dime to help in the campaign to stop Proposition 8. Straight guys like Brad Pitt and Steven Spielberg? Yeah, they’ve each given $100k. There is a war being waged to take civil rights away from people. And Degeneres hasn’t given any cash yet? Am I missing something?

  19. Ian M. Walker says

    Umm, none of you know for sure just what Ellen has done or how much she has nor has not given. Many celebrities donate via pseudonyms or staffers, etc. You need to focus your energies where they belong.

    Oh and yes, I have donated twice and asked as many people as I can to vote no.

    Cheers.

  20. SHOWMETHEMONEY says

    IAN, et al.,

    It would be ILLEGAL for Ellen or anyone else to donate under a pseudonym (any amount over $99) to the No on Prop 8 campaign. Under state campaign finance laws, every donor is required to provide his or her name, employer and occupation, or else the donation cannot be accepted.

    In any case, why donate via a surrogate? Really, why?

    No person posting here has provided any genuinely respectable reason as to why Ellen and other megarich gay celebs — especially those recently married in California — should not be PUBLICLY fundraising/donating.

    If Ellen doesn’t step up, she may as well just go live in a chicken coop herself, if she’s more dedicated to their rights than her wife’s and her own. Either that, or every oppressed chicken in the world should be able to apply for asylum in her mansion.

    Grassroots fund-raising has to be at least matched by large donations from the friends of any cause. I’d say rich people who fall into the demographic whose rights are being voted on would be first on the list to ask; in addition, those celebrities who are specially affected are counted on lead PR efforts and take the lead in fundraising and donations. This means leading by example. You would use the same template for any cause.

  21. Ian M. Walker says

    Very well, perhaps she should have/be doing more publicly.

    I would still say, she has done more for bringing gay acceptance into the country than anybody else posting on here and ranting about how little she is now doing.

    Again, I feel the energy would be best served elsewhere. It is easy to sit there and rail about how little someone else is doing.

    Cheers.

  22. SHOWMETHEMONEY says

    IAN,

    You said: “[Ellen] has done more for bringing gay acceptance into the country than anybody else posting on here and ranting about how little she is now doing…It is easy to sit there and rail about how little someone else is doing”

    This, from someone who is defending Ellen’s woefully inadequate action on an issue that is supposedly so important to her?

    Please.

    FYI – In addition to ‘ranting’ about how Ellen and other gay celebrities have dropped the ball on the most important issue of our times, I myself am volunteering at least four days a week, have made several donations, and even hosted a fundraiser at my house.

    So, in addition to donating myself, and trying to drum up grassroots donations by asking friends, family and even strangers to donate, I am doing whatever I can to urge the people with the most money who should be donating but HAVEN’T GIVEN SHIT to step up.

    WTF are you doing to help, except defending Ellen’s PATHETIC inaction?

    HUMAN RIGHTS BEFORE CHICKENS’ RIGHTS!!!

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