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  1. Matt says

    I think the term race-baiting is incorrect. Being a Muslim is not a race; it’s a religion identified with Terrorism. Basically they are trying to associate him with being a terrorist.

  2. Derrick from Philly says

    Yes, we knew this was coming. But what does that inbred, descendent of whores in the above picture think he’s going to accomplish? He can’t vote in Ohio or Missouri or Indiana: states that are in play. What an idiot–his state is already McCain country….unless even White Louisianans are starting to see the light–even the great number of Louisianans who’ve been “passing” since slavery ended. I doubt it.

    Yes, there is real danger for Barack Obama. He knew this when he started his campaign. He is brave.

  3. Mara says

    Well, being that it’s only 1958, I can understand t–

    Oh right. It’s 2008. My bad. Well, then these are just ignorant jackasses.

    And it would make me glad to live in Canada, except ours aren’t much better.

  4. Rad says

    And these are the specters that the populus will remember. This is the pre-ballot diversion that the GOP longs and strives for.

    This is not as low as it can and will go, I look for violence, unchecked, to escalate each day as McCain smugly grins, clenching onto his NRA endorsement.

  5. says

    the outcome of this election could very well hinge on all those wanting to vote actually getting the opportunity to do so, or not…
    between long lines, intimidation, and faulty voting apparatus (not to mention involvement by the Republican C.I.A.) this election could easily result in yet another corrupted finish line.

    and yes, even this “shit-for-brains McCain-demographic” Wade Williams deserves to vote.

  6. Kyle says

    I think McCain is really a good guy who loves his country and wants to do whats right. But I think he has lost his way and has sold his soul and his beliefs to do whatever it takes to win this election.

    So much for the maverick who said he is a straight talker. All I’ve heard over the last few weeks if not months is his saying one thing but backtracking when he gets questioned.

    And Sarah Palin..how dare she say that we should look into Obama and his past when she won’t even acknowledge her scary past.

    I am so ready for this country to move forward and this election to be over. It’s giving me a headache.

  7. Cody says

    Wow, the hatred is getting scary, between the hate of O because he is half black and the gay bashing and typical hate spewed of the so called church folks here in Cali over Prop 8, hopefully, China and Russia will start running the world, at least they don’t claim to be democracies.

    The true test will be if there are enough decent people in this country to denounce Mc Bush and that trifling bigot Palin on election day.

  8. Brandon says

    Andy, I understand the posting. I really do. It’s one thing to deride Obama on tax policy. It’s another to start making death threats or insinuating that Obama is hanging around with terrorists. These sort of misrepresentations have been in the Republican playbook for quite some time.

    That said, are you REALLY surprised by this? As Derrick from Philly said, I knew this was coming. This guy just got caught saying what many others are thinking.

    After the debate on Tuesday, David Gergen referred to some studies and said Obama’s lead may be less then it appears or it might even be greater when you take into account racial attitudes.

    That’s one of the reasons that I am very, very, very concerned about this election.

  9. says

    I’m not surprised that this mentality exists. I know it’s out there.

    I just think it’s important to bring to attention the way McCain and Palin are not only complacent about it but complicit in it.

  10. patrick nyc says

    ANDY it’s rare you respond to comments. I think you have been great with your coverage of both conventions and with coverage of a historic election.

    Good to see you are holding strong, note the use of ‘g’s’.

  11. JJ says

    My worry is that this is just the beginning. Remember, people rioted in the street to prevent integration of public schools.

    McCain/Palin and their “base” — the only ones still voting for them…are going to go down kicking and screaming.

    Look for a lot of legal challenges anywhere they can too…they will spare no expense.

    It is some sort of confluence of circumstances and Obama’s unique qualitites that has put us on the path to our first African-American president. And no matter what people say, I, like all Americans, know that race is an issue in large segments of the American population to this day.

    I just want the Republicans out on their ear soooooooooooo bad.

  12. says

    Many people look and John and Sarah and see ‘mavericks’. Frankly, I looked right into their eyes and saw KKK. Folks, this is some scary shit. I knew the more popular Obama became, the more likely the crazys would come out of the woodwork. I’ve never considered myself racist, but I am predjudice against one thing: stupidity…and there’s clearly a lot of it in this country. God Bless us ALL.

  13. peterparker says

    I can’t watch it. I can’t watch the video from Pam’s House Blend. To think that such ignorant people will be helping to elect the next U.S. President is just too much to take.

  14. anon says

    Ah, I think Andy would have a better case if the guy said, “keep the terrorist out of office”. As it stands, it’s been Obama=Terrorist. It was the HRC campaign that tried Obama=Black. Nice try, but no.

  15. noah says

    No one should be surprised by this. Please take a step back at look at how the GOP has run its campaigns post 1967 when it adopted the Southern Strategy:

    Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan, and George H.W. Bush all used vivid anti-black racist rhetoric to win votes.

    George W. Bush in 2004 used homophobia to get out the vote. Right?

    Outside the presidential elections, the GOP used both racism and homophobia regularly around the countries. Other GOP members used anti-Latino racism to win voters whom they whipped up into a frenzy over fears of a Reconquista by the brown folks.

    This is one of the reasons why I find Republicans and gay Republicans so despicable. Whenever the going gets rough the GOP injects hate into a campaign to win. It’s a great technique (some Democrats use it, too–Geraldine Ferraro!).

    Thus, when gay Republicans come to this site and call progressive gays intolerant, all the while gay Repubs tacitly or directly improving the GOP’s disgusting tactics, I don’t have patience for them.

    Seriously, people need to get their heads out of their asses and look at what’s happening in California and Arizona. These anti-gay measures are a great way to get out the bigot vote. Why do you think McCain endorsed both? The same reason why George W. Bush did so!

    This presidential election is a turning point for the country. The Supreme Court is the real prize. If we don’t get a liberal, progressive president into office to appoint fair-minded judges, we are screwed!

    If you care about marriage or civil unions, understand that the only way to ensure full equality is at the federal level via legislation and Supreme Court rulings. Please take a look at the Civil Rights movement. Look at the importance of Loving v. Virginia.

  16. BC says

    Yeah, why are we surprised? And why do we assume that the McCain camp is encouraging racism? People are racist…sorry but they are. That will not change. Just because I’m not thrilled with Obama’s plans does not make me a racist. Also, he needs to be proud of his middle name and not hide it. When he takes the oath of office, he will say “Barack Hussein Obama” just like “William Jefferson Clinton.” Its not like its a secret. Oh, and isn’t his birth name “Barry?” If he chose his name, he should be proud of it and not care that anyone is using it. The more we get mad that it is being used, the more people are going to use it to make us mad. “People only push our buttons because we have shown them where our buttons are.”

  17. Anon says

    Where was the outrage when the press, blogs and SNL attacked Sarah Palin and her family? Where was the disgust from the Democrats? Obama and his staff brought this on themselves. They did nothing to stop it. All you’re going to do is anger the other side. There’s plenty of hate in this country and across the planet. I’ve seen plenty of hate from each side so just save it. This used to a blog I liked to visit but it’s just another smear blog. You’re just as bad as them.

  18. dc8stretch says

    Again, I look at your comments, and I’ll can think is WOW. The Queen is really the only one of you with a shred of self-knowledge on here. Re-read your comments, and tell me how it is ‘wrong’ for the white bigot to hate on Obama, but it is ‘right’ for all of you to hate on McCain and his supporters with the same vehemence and similar epithets?

  19. Dan says

    Go ahead and contest, anon. You know what’s gonna happen if you fuckers try and steal the election via the courts when Obama’s walking into the polls with a double-digit national lead and significiant 5+ point leads in most of the swing states?

    Riots that’ll make the Rodney King verdict look like a cakewalk.

  20. Derrick from Philly says

    “Re-read your comments, and tell me how it is ‘wrong’ for the white bigot to hate on Obama, but it is ‘right’ for all of you to hate on McCain and his supporters with the same vehemence and similar epithets?”

    We don’t have a history of assasinating folks because of the color of their skin, or because we don’t agree them. Men like that Louisiana redneck above have a history of committing political violence since the beginning of this country.

    “Where was the outrage when the press, blogs and SNL attacked Sarah Palin and her family? Where was the disgust from the Democrats?”

    Well, the press and the Democrats couldn’t believe that John McCain would pick a family who appear to be totally unfit for living in the vice-presidential spotlight. Living in rustic Alaska, killing moose and belonging to right-wing successionists movements seem much more suitable for the Palin family–except for Sarah, they all appear uncomfortable with the attention trust on them. Mama Sarah wasn’t very considerate of her family’s feelings.

    In other words, the Palins are kinda’ common & trashy.

  21. Giovanni says

    “Re-read your comments, and tell me how it is ‘wrong’ for the white bigot to hate on Obama, but it is ‘right’ for all of you to hate on McCain and his supporters with the same vehemence and similar epithets?”

    Well, for one thing, no one hates McCain for the color of his skin.

  22. BC says

    I’m not anyone named Bruce.

    So since the Polls say Obama is winning he will win? The polls also said Kerry would win. See how that turned out. People are so quick to attack me and Anon and DC8STRETCH without really seeing what is being said. Things are not fair. On either side. You guys have been so quick to attack anyone who disagrees with you. Its like we are not allowed to have differing opinions. In NONE of my posts have I attacked any candidate or their families, however in responses to my posts, several people attack me and then McCain/Palin. It doesn’t make sense. It is people like some of you who will continue to make this country divided IF McCain wins.

    And 24Play? So you are condoning voter fraud? This is ok with you? This group, ACORN that was going to get funding from the democrats in congress in the first version of the bail-out bill, is righteous in promoting voter fraud. This is not the first case of this group promoting fraud. Again, there is fraud on both sides, but if we get to the point where we say that fraud in one of our most cherished rights/obligations such as voting, is OK, we are no longer Americans.

    We need to be Americans. Americans have a history (until the past 30 years) of RESPECTUFLLY disagreeing with each other. Americans have a history (until the past 10 or so years) of being proud of their country and thinking we are the best country in the world. We are not Republicans and Democrats. Healthy debate is GREAT. What I’m seeing on this site by my “fellow gays” is hurtful.

  23. 24play says

    I’m not condoning voter fraud, Brucie. Can you read?

    I’m saying this election is not going to be nearly close enough for fraud—from either side, and there will be some from both, as there is in every national election—to make a damn bit of difference. Unless a result within a state is within a percentage point (or maybe 1.5) no one’s going to bother contesting the vote. And Obama’s gonna do much better than that in every Kerry state plus 6 or 8 more.

    Game over.

  24. Derrick from Philly says

    THE QUEEN,

    you KNOW I am not playing “the snob”. There is absolutely nothing in my background that would allow me to, BUT we expect our First-Families to be people of some quality and intellect. Look what we got with George the Second Idiot?

    And yes, I fully remember my beloved Jimmy Carter’s brother Billy. Gracious, it wasn’t classy, but Roslyn and the wonderful Miss Lillian were. Billy should’ve been removed.

    When you’re are religious fanatic but your family is fucked-up–you need to stay home and get family things together…with the help of the Good Lord. You don’t need to be in Washington DC–next in line to the presidency.

    She’ll be able to tell it all after the election on the Jerry Springer Show.

  25. 24play says

    That happened 3 days ago, you stupid, irrelevant old fuck. Do try and keep up.

    If you look for more current news, you’ll find that the sheriff in question is being nailed for speaking a political rally while in uniform.

  26. Rodney says

    Once he’s President, I hope the Secret Service is up to the job of protecting Obama. There seems to still be a lot of explosive racism in this country and I’m betting there will be more than one attempt on his life …

    If the Treasury Department fails, we could be looking at a President Biden.

    Oh, and by the way, Obama isn’t even black. He’s milato (sry if that word is offensive; I know of no other way to say he is mixed racially).

  27. says

    “I’ve seen plenty of hate from each side so just save it. This used to a blog I liked to visit but it’s just another smear blog. You’re just as bad as them.”

    I’m not sure how calling attention to what is actually going on within the McCain/Palin camp is smearing? And, sorry, where is the hate from the other side? Michelle Obama was on Larry King last night and, unlike, Cindy McCain, she had not a negative word to say about anyone. Complete grace. Obama is criticizing McCain’s policies; Sarah Palin is accusing Obama of being un-American and a terrorist sympathizer. These are not equivalent. She is inciting hatred. I don’t see any higher-up on Obama’s side doing that. Americans want a positive message, and that’s exactly what Obama is giving them. McCain will leave this race a loser who’s also lost his dignity.

  28. jim says

    I can’t watch it. I can’t watch the video from Pam’s House Blend. To think that such ignorant people will be helping to elect the next U.S. President is just too much to take.”

    Poor Peter, I genuinely share your pain here. But this is really nothing new, these are the same people who elected our current Idiot-in-Command. If it’s any source of solace to you, the ignorant jacks at the Strongsville, OH rally really are not typical of the majority in this part of Ohio (Cleveland/NE Ohio). This is, and traditionally has been, a Dem stronghold. despite the strong blue-collar/traditional morals here (land of Kucinich & Steph Tubbs Jones).

    Peace, brother!

  29. Tom K. says

    When your only defense for attacking a candidate from other side just as nastily as some of them have attacked our candidate is that she’s “trashy,” or in your eyes not suited for the office for which she is running, I will call you what you are: a hypocrite, a bigot, a sexist, and an emotional child. I’m sorry, but if that’s all the justification you’ve got for your behavior, you’ve got nothing. And defending your bad behavior because of someone else’s bad conduct is simply infantile.

    “The Palin’s are kinda common and trashy”? So your personal opinion of a politician who you disagree with is your rationalization for the six-week-long media rampage against the Palins and your own attacks? And I bet you think that girls who dress a little sexy, or “trashy” deserve whatever they get too? And while we’re at it, doesn’t “white trash” serve a purpose similar to the N-word, in that it’s meant to demean and dehumanize a whole class of people as inferior and unworthy? I’m not saying it’s as bad, but it has a similar intent.

    Our side attacks Sarah Palin when she says Obama is “different” and that “this is not a man who sees America the way that you and I see America.” But aren’t we saying the exact same thing about her? That her values are not our values and are therefore unAmerican? Aren’t we exaggerating her story to make her “different”: “She a secessionist.” “She’s stupid.” “She’s white trash.” “She’s not her baby’s mother.” “She’s a bad mother; she should be at home with her children”? We’re saying that she and her family are different than us; their values are lacking; they’re not fine upstanding folks like us.

    People on the Far Left called for Hillary to be killed during the primary, and they called her a c*nt and racist, among other things. People on Daily Kos, for one, posted calls for her death; and Olbermann talked about “(taking) her out behind the woodshed.” So if you imagine delusional, homicidal craziness is limited to the Far Right, you don’t have to look far for proof that it ain’t so. Hell, you can look at William Ayers; Ayers, a Far Leftist, planted bombs and killed police officers—to get back at people he disagreed with.

    I’ve said it here before, and I’ll say it again: this election opened my eyes to the ugliness on the Left. I guess I was naive before, but I always thought we were better. I thought we’d stick to the issues and leave the smears and insults to the other guys; but everywhere I go across the Web, people justify their bad behavior against Sarah Palin and her family with the flimsiest of excuses: she deserves it because she’s anti-abortion, or she hunts, or she’s religious, or we think she’s inexperienced, or how about this one—They did it first (Waaaaahhhh! I need my binky!)!

    There is NO justification for the ugly stuff that’s gone on: for breaking into Palin’s email account; for attacking her minor children (one of whom got pregnant–Lord knows that’s never happened to any of our family members or friends, right? And what politician’s family doesn’t sometimes feel uncomfortable in the media glare?); for the media dumpster-diving through every moment of her past, looking for any embarrassing snippet about her or her family so that she could be mocked and publicly flogged; and on and on. (Take gander at some of the comments here or on HuffPo or Kos if you’re going to say it’s all been within the bounds of reasonable political discourse—the normal vetting of a candidate—or consider the mocking, contemptuous tone—in all it’s classist glory—much of the media took on from the moment she was announced.) No candidate in modern American history has ever been treated like this, not even Hillary. And before you even say it, simple inexperience does not justify this treatment.

    My politics and Sarah Palin’s politics do not agree, but if we met, I’m pretty sure I could sit down with her and have a friendly conversation. Hell, we could talk about snowmobiling or hockey if we found ourselves without any other subject for discussion. I grew up in Michigan and spent a lot of time around both. I’m sure we’d get along fine if we kept the conversation light and stayed away from politics; but even if we did talk about more serious matters, I’m sure it would remain civilized.

    And that’s the point: If we can’t be civilized in our disagreement, without resorting to attacks and slurs, then we have no valid claim to civilization. Then all of our feelings of superiority—our ideas that we’re smarter, more evolved than “them”—are silly fantasies. We can’t make a claim to humanity without being consistently humane–and that means even when we don’t want to be.

    Remember this: the measure of a person isn’t how he treats those who are like him, whom he’s fond of and agrees with; it’s how he treats those who are different from him, with whom he does not agree.

  30. says

    Tom K., you’re entirely missing the point of Andy’s post and the concern many of us have about the McCain/Palin campaign’s tactics. Of course there is hate spewed on both sides amid the wild frontier of the blogosphere. We all share a responsibility to be civil. But in this past week that hate is coming from the TOP of the Republican ticket and that is creating a dangerous atmosphere within their rabid base. No remotely equivalent incendiary speech is coming from the top of the Obama/Biden ticket. Both Obama and Biden have showed Palin a respect that she has not shown them. No Obama staffers are calling McCain an un-American friend of terrorists. If you’re really on “our side,” I find it hard to believe that you condone what the McCain camp has been up to.

  31. Tom K. says

    Well, Ernie, before I get going, let me first address your annoying statement, “If you’re really on ‘our side.'” Yes, any Democrat who expresses disappointment with the way the Democrats have handled themselves this election are secretly Republicans masquerading as Democrats, right? Yeah, why don’t you slam fellow Dems because some of us have the guts to say our side (yes, our side) is far from innocent this time around. It’s lame paranoia to imagine there are Republican moles across the web posting comments on liberal blogs. I’ve been posting here for years.

    But back to business, Ernie. Apparently, you’re the one who’s entirely missing the point—my point. And that is, in essence, that it doesn’t matter what the Republicans have been doing. Not-one-tiny-stinking-bit. They can misbehave as much as they like. I don’t care. I’ve come to expect that of them. Their behavior doesn’t demoralize or upset me–I have no stake in their misbehavior. But when I see Democrats running around the streets with T-shirts that say “Sarah Palin Is A C*nt” I feel sick inside and embarrassed to be a Democrat, because people might think I condone that stuff. We’ve been hearing a lot about “dog-whistles” recently, right? The media has been talking about it constantly. Well, this misogyny ain’t a dog-whistle; it’s a freaking bullhorn, and I haven’t heard one peep about it in the news.

    The media can spend days dissecting the subtle dog-whistles from McCain’s camp, but zero time reporting on this pathological, violent hatred of women. Why is this tolerated? Why isn’t this reported on? Because Palin’s an anti-abortion Republican woman? Oh, well, that’s different, right? Because when we talk about rights and fair treatment for all, we don’t mean the people we disagree with. Is that it? When we condemn racism, sexism, and homophobia, we’re talking about racism, sexism, and homophobia perpetrated against Democrats, not Republicans, huh? Well, my mom is an anti-abortion Republican woman, (and despite that fact, I love her dearly) so perhaps I take this thing kind of a bit too personally—I see how easy it is to dehumanize people you disagree with, and I fear where attitudes like that might one day lead. Having an opposing point of view shouldn’t make you fair game for sickening, bigoted attacks.

    And don’t for a moment imagine that these aren’t attacks on all women. I’ve realized in the last several months that these kind of Democrats have simply found a convenient outlet for the generalized hatred of women they already have festering inside them. Most of them managed to keep this hatred relatively in check with Hillary—but it was still palpable and ugly to behold. With Hillary, however, they were allowed only a limited outlet—but they did their best to demonize her during the primary in an effort to make her a more socially acceptable victim, so they could get as much bashing in as possible. But when Palin came on the scene, the floodgates opened. They finally had an acceptable target for their sadistic misogyny—a Republican woman. They knew no one was going to say anything much about it, so they could indulge their hatred to their heart’s content. And they’re still at it.

    If I saw pictures of a bunch of rednecks with T-shirts that said “Barack Obama is a (fill in the blank),” I’d be infinitely less horrified than I am to see pictures of young Democrats (on Baracklaughing and posing for the camera with their “Sarah Palin Is a C*nt” t-shirts. Why? Because I expect behavior like that from certain elements on the Right. But in my more naïve days (last year), I never expected to see Democrats act like such hateful, ignorant monsters. And I never expected the top of the Democratic ticket and our Democratic “leaders” to remain completely silent on the subject. In my opinion, on account of their silence, our leaders bear equal guilt for the activities of their supporters and surrogates.

    Check out one more example of the misogyny: http://www.afineexample.com/other/other02palin.html

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