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Vatican Opposes UN Resolution Condemning Anti-Gay Discrimination

Yesterday, it was reported that the Vatican stated its opposition to a UN declaration formally condemning discrimination against gays because doing so would pressure nations which do not recognize same-sex unions to do so. The resolution, which the Vatican claims would "de-criminalize" same-sex unions, is set to be introduced by France on December 10th at the UN General Assembly, on the 60th anniversary of the UN declaration of human rights.

BenedictThe Times reports: "Over 80 countries in the world currently outlaw same-sex relations, with punishments range from short prison sentences to life imprisonment and even death by execution. The UN declaration will not be binding, but gay rights movements hope it will lead to a UN resolution. The French minister of human rights and foreign affairs, Rama Yade, said that the EU should also 'take the lead in stopping violence against women worldwide.'"

Today, Reuters reports that the Vatican has been "attacked" for the condemnation. Once again, gays are being framed as the aggressors:

"A strongly worded editorial in Italy's mainstream La Stampa newspaper said the Vatican's reasoning was 'grotesque.' Pointing out that homosexuality was still punishable by death in some Islamic countries, the editorial said what the Vatican really feared was a 'chain reaction in favor of legally recognized homosexual unions in countries, like Italy, where there is currently no legislation.' Franco Grillini, founder and honorary president of Arcigay, Italy's leading gay rights group, said the Vatican's reasoning smacked of 'total idiocy and madness... 'The French resolution, which is supported by all 27 members of the European Union, has nothing to do with gay marriage. It is about stopping jail and the death penalty for homosexuals,' Grillini told Reuters."

In late October, the Vatican said that candidates for the Catholic priesthood should undergo psychological tests to screen out heterosexuals unable to control their sexual urges and those with strong homosexual tendencies.

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  1. Honestly, as if anyone would expect anything more from Pope Dracula and the Cabal of Intolerance. Hate and prejudice (wrapped in a message of love) are the standard operating procedures for an organization that needs to find a cross to hang from.

    Posted by: Barin | Dec 2, 2008 11:55:15 AM


  2. Does the pope know how gay he looks in that dress?

    Posted by: Mr. E | Dec 2, 2008 11:59:44 AM


  3. Look at how he is dressed? Could Liberace have dressed any gayer?

    Posted by: Patrick Lentz | Dec 2, 2008 12:01:45 PM


  4. Does the Catholic Church honestly believe they can speak with any credibility about anything anywhere in the world-given their historic, systemic hypocrisy? They have no validity, believability or reason to feel any reasoned, intelligent individual would listen to this cabal of shame and intolerance.

    Posted by: Nick | Dec 2, 2008 12:09:03 PM


  5. The Catholic Church stood side by side with the Nazis as they killed 100s of thousands of Gay people. Should we expect anything different now?

    Posted by: Sargon Bighorn | Dec 2, 2008 12:13:48 PM


  6. The entire papal charade in Rome and around the world is nothing but a glorified drag pageant. Starring closeted self-hating homosexuals in the lead roles. Parading around in these holy vestment dresses telling the rest of the world how to live and raise families even though they are forbidden to marry, procreate or even have sexual relations. They can only thrive if their followers are kept ignorant, idol worshipping and poor. Catholic women are still considered second class citizens; not smart enough to make contraception decisions for themselves.

    Posted by: ggreen | Dec 2, 2008 12:24:53 PM


  7. The Mormons ain't got nothin' on the most evil, murderous, bigoted institution the planet Earth has ever known, the Catholic Church!

    Posted by: David B. | Dec 2, 2008 12:26:48 PM


  8. So apparently the head of the Catholic church, and therefore the overseer of a belief system practiced by over one BILLION people worldwide actively declines support for a non-binding request for nations to treat people equally and humanly?

    So peace and good will to all in God's kingdom is the part of the Bible the pope decides is forgettable.

    Just making sure.

    Posted by: dbzeag | Dec 2, 2008 12:27:42 PM


  9. The pope is a disgusting bigot.

    Posted by: David T | Dec 2, 2008 12:36:45 PM


  10. The solipsism repeatedly exhibited here [and, well, everywhere else] is stunning. Sorry, kids, but just because YOU don't take the ReichsPope seriously doesn't mean that millions of others agree with you. Were you all in a coma when he visited the US and tens of thousands of brainwashed fools showed up wherever he went and "objective" mainstream media, again, covered it as if he were the Risen Christ.

    And, tho they would have definitely done it on their own, it was the Catholic Archbishop of San Francisco who initiated contact with Mormon leaders to conspire together about how to pass Prop H8TE.

    So, Stonewallers 2.0, what are you doing about THAT and this latest attack on our personhood?

    Were Harvey Milk still alive I guarantee you he would be shouting:

    Out of the blogs and into the streets!

    Posted by: Michael Bedwell | Dec 2, 2008 12:52:27 PM


  11. The Holy See is doing what they believe they need to do in order to protect the integrity of the holy Catholic Faith.

    The Vatican's issue is *not* about being gay but about same-sex unions (marriage). Perhaps some of you should actually read what exactly it is the Church is having issues with before you start flapping your wrists in the air:

    "Father Lombardi said that "obviously nobody wants to defend the death penalty for homosexuals."The church supports fundamental human rights and opposes every form of "unjust discrimination" which includes "not just the death penalty, but all violent or discriminatory criminal laws against homosexuals," he said in a commentary on Vatican Radio Dec. 1."

    Why is it that certain people in our community demand that other people respect who we are/what we do yet they mock and talk hate towards people who don't?

    And the Holy Father's attire is better than the trash that half of the drag queens wear.

    Posted by: Thad | Dec 2, 2008 1:15:41 PM


  12. Mrs. Claus sure is fugly.

    Posted by: The Milkman | Dec 2, 2008 1:16:05 PM


  13. The "Holy Father?" Don't you mean Pope Nazinger.

    Posted by: MAJeff | Dec 2, 2008 1:18:51 PM


  14. Thad you can take the "Holy See" and shove it. Even if the Catholic church begrudgingly admits that I shouldn't be put to death for being gay (gee, thanks), they still think that I should have to live my life celibately and alone. I'm not going to be respectful toward an organization that calls me an "abomination" and wants me to be miserable... no matter how sassy the pope's shoes are.

    And I demand respect because I've worked my whole life to earn it. The pope should have to do the same.

    Posted by: The Milkman | Dec 2, 2008 1:21:45 PM


  15. Not only does he wear dresses, as several others have pointed out, but he also has to shoes to match. Hail, Mary.

    Posted by: Mooney | Dec 2, 2008 1:24:19 PM


  16. Thad, go fuck yourself with a crucifix.

    Posted by: Mr. E | Dec 2, 2008 1:32:34 PM


  17. The Catholic Church is dying in the United States, and good riddance. Just look at these statistics:

    http://catholicmoraltruth.com/churchstatistics.htm

    Posted by: Mike | Dec 2, 2008 1:38:52 PM


  18. the more out-of-touch and medieval the Vatican appears is ultimately so much more advantageous for our liberation... if the Vatican stubbornly adheres to the past with no regard for future or advancement, then not only will the catholics continue to dwindle in numbers, but their suspect and fictional beliefs will seem more preposterous as time marches ahead.
    Simply put those red pumps on eBay and you could feed The Philippines for a year.

    Posted by: hangten | Dec 2, 2008 1:48:33 PM


  19. Thad, we did read the statement. The Catholic administration thinks that protecting a definition that they can define on their own terms anyway,(and originally didn't recognize at all), is more important than protecting a long suffering segment of God's children from being tortured and killed just for existing. We will not respect an institution with such blatant hypocrisy.

    Posted by: RainbowPhoenix | Dec 2, 2008 1:53:34 PM


  20. See, look at some of you? Look at what you are saying! How do you expect respect when you show none?

    Posted by: Thad | Dec 2, 2008 1:57:49 PM


  21. Thad,

    What respect has Nazinger and the RCC shown gay people? The nonsense they always put out about not discriminating is shown to be a lie when they oppose every attempt at including gay people in non-discrimination policy. The RCC actively supports excluding gay and lesbian people (not to mention the even more "broken," or "objectively disordered," bi and trans folk.) This isn't about marriage, it's about whether or not queer folks are to be included as full participants in society. The RCC, along with its cobigots in the LDS and Southern Baptist (and multiple other) churches, has answered with a resounding "no" and is attempting to make sure we aren't integrated.

    The Roman Catholic Church is an anti-gay hate organization.

    Posted by: MAJeff | Dec 2, 2008 2:04:18 PM


  22. Somebody ought to bitch-slap 1,000 x 1,000 times that miserable, wretched, hateful, evil, vile, pathetic, viscious travesty of a human being!! That man is EVIL EVIL EVIL. A resolution giving the same human rights that this prick of a pope enjoys to a group that his "church" has caused much suffering and condemnation is now being criticized by that German Nazi. Why? Because it directly calls into question the hateful and dangerous homophobia of the modern Catholic (and catholic) christian churches. You can bet a solid dollar that that slimy bastard is lobbying heavily amongst the Muslim members of the UN and those countries with large evangelical populations to get them to support his "church" and its campaign against the human rights of gays and lesbians everywhere. It's a disgrace! Why hasn't someone in Congress or the ACLU called that prick pope on the Vatican's campaign of hate against gay people? Why hasn't anyone seriously questioned whether or not Catholics--priests and lay people alike--are violating U.S. law by lobbying for the Vatican in matters that concern civil, secular law and not church law? Why hasn't anyone brought a lawsuit that will force these Catholic lobbyists to register as agents of a foreign government? This whole thing is disgusting and this is one more fight that gays and lesbians and people of good will should NOT back down on. Fight these assholes and never let them get away with their hatred and bigotry ever again!!

    Posted by: mike | Dec 2, 2008 2:17:03 PM


  23. The hate being spewed here is unbelievable. Is it logical to respond to perceived hate with even more inflamed hate? Pope Benedict, despite what we may think of his stances on this issue, has done far more good for the world than I surmise any reader of this blog, including myself, could ever dream of doing. That may be something to think about before you start hurling hate-ridden, disparaging epithets at an elderly man who has sacrificed his life to bring peace to the world.

    Posted by: Alex | Dec 2, 2008 2:51:39 PM


  24. Thad,

    I know the pope is not 100% against all of gays and every right they have. I know the Catholic church does not wish harm on innocent people for believing and viewing life differently than them (oh wait...). The UN announcement was a generic wish for nations to promote peace and equality, not an ad for same-sex marriage. It was a Vatican representative that made the claim about same-sex marriage.

    The UN agreement was for equality and peace to all UN nations, starting with the EU. The pope's representative did not want the Vatican to support such a plea. Simply put, this appears to me to be the RCC not wanting peace on earth and equal treatment to all in "God's kingdom"; nothing to do with same-sex marriage at all.

    Posted by: dbzeag | Dec 2, 2008 3:02:22 PM


  25. @ALEX,

    what has he done actually?

    Posted by: nic | Dec 2, 2008 3:14:22 PM


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