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Brazil: None of the Recovered Debris Comes from Missing Plane

None of the debris recovered from the area where officials thought Air France Flight 447 had crashed came from the missing plane, Brazilian authorities report:

Nyt "'It has been verified that the material did not belong to the plane,' Brig. Ramon Borges Cardoso told reporters in Recife, Brazil, about the material recovered Thursday. 'It is a pallet of wood that is utilized for transport. It is used in planes, but on this flight to Paris, there was no wooden pallet.' He added that oil slicks seen on the ocean were not from the plane either and that the quantity of oil exceeded the amount the plane would have carried. 'No material from the airplane was picked up,' he said. The announcement left open the question of whether other debris that had not yet been plucked from the ocean might be from the plane. On Wednesday, searchers recovered two debris fields and had identified the wreckage, including an airplane seat and an orange float as coming from Flight 447. Officials now say that none of the debris recovered comes from the missing plane."

Af Reuters reports:

"The paper said the manufacturer of the doomed plane, Airbus, was set to issue a recommendation advising companies using the A330 aircraft of optimal speeds during poor weather conditions. Airbus declined to comment on the report and the French air accident investigation agency, which has to validate any such recommendations, known as an Aircraft Information Telex, was not immediately available for comment. A Spanish newspaper said a transatlantic airline pilot reported seeing a bright flash of white light at the same time the Air France flight disappeared. 'Suddenly we saw in the distance a strong, intense flash of white light that took a downward, vertical trajectory and disappeared in six seconds,' the pilot of an Air Comet flight from Lima to Madrid told his company, the El Mundo newspaper reported. 'We did not hear any communication on any emergency or air to air frequency either before or after this event.'"

Meanwhile, other theories abound: a lightning strike, turbulence, hail storm, electrical failure, fire on board, hijacking, bomb, and even a meteor strike.

A French minister has said they "cannot discard" the terrorism theory.

The last 14 minutes (via the the Brazilian O Estado de S. Paulo newspaper and confirmed by an airline-industry official via the NY Post):

At 11 p.m. (10 p.m. EDT), pilot Marc Dubois sent a manual signal saying he was flying through an area of "CBs" -- black, electrically charged cumulonimbus clouds that carry violent winds and lightning.

Satellite data show that the thunderheads -- towering up to 50,000 feet -- were sending 100 mph updrafts into the jet's flight path.

"Such an updraft would lead to severe turbulence for any aircraft," AccuWeather said.

Continued, AFTER THE JUMP...

"In addition, the storms were towering up to 50,000 feet and would have been producing lightning. The Air France plane would have encountered these stormy conditions, which could have resulted in either some structural failure or electrical failure."

At 11:10 p.m., a cascade of horrific problems began.

Automatic messages relayed by the jetliner indicate the autopilot had disengaged, suggesting Dubois and his two co-pilots were trying to thread their way through the dangerous clouds manually.

A key computer system had switched to alternative power and controls needed to keep the plane stable had been damaged.

An alarm sounded, indicating the deterioration of flight systems.

At 11:13 p.m., more automatic messages reported the failure of systems to monitor air speed, altitude and direction. Control of the main flight computer and wing spoilers also failed.

The last automatic message, at 11:14 p.m., indicated complete electrical failure and a massive loss of cabin pressure -- catastrophic events, indicating that the plane was breaking apart and plunging toward the ocean.

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  1. I'm sure you know this but the plane in the picture on this post is a 747, not an A330 like the one that crashed.
    Love the blog though!

    Posted by: Cory | Jun 5, 2009 10:03:39 AM


  2. ugh, this is all just so bizarre. while it is entirely pointless to even guess why this flt crashed/vanished--i truly hope they find any of the wreckage to be able to determine why this a330 went down, so these people's lives were not lost in vain.

    Posted by: jash | Jun 5, 2009 10:09:01 AM


  3. So it's just an everyday, non plane crash related oil slick. Whoa.

    Posted by: paulie | Jun 5, 2009 10:09:55 AM


  4. I'm thinking aliens...anyone?

    Posted by: RONTEX | Jun 5, 2009 10:33:56 AM


  5. Okay so the debris found was not from this flight but they said they found a pallat and a seat and a large oil slick... so what the heck was that???

    Posted by: Joe | Jun 5, 2009 11:39:54 AM


  6. This is getting creepier by the minute. How can a fucking plane just vanish with no sign of wreckage?

    Posted by: soulbrotha | Jun 5, 2009 11:46:08 AM


  7. This is beginning to sound like an episode (hell a whole season) of LOST.

    Posted by: Ryan | Jun 5, 2009 12:00:40 PM


  8. how can a plane vanish? Bermuda Triangle anyone? (Don't blame me, it's my '80's upbringing that's done this to me.)

    Posted by: ZnSD | Jun 5, 2009 12:16:52 PM


  9. Im a commercial pilot and I'm wondering why NO ONE has been discussing why there was no ELT (Emergency Locator Tranmitter) signal received from the aircraft? All part 121 (scheduled commercial) aircraft are required to have these devices onboard and they specifically are required to have a device that floats for aircraft that fly overwater. In most cases large aircraft have multiple ELT devices. I haven't seen anything mentioned in any news media about why ELT signals were never received...

    Posted by: scott | Jun 5, 2009 12:25:35 PM


  10. SCOTT: I was wondering the same thing. What good is a black box that can't signal where it is located after a crash? As usual, the real story is in what we're NOT being told.

    All you conspiracy theorists out there, you're up!

    Posted by: Christopher | Jun 5, 2009 12:33:00 PM


  11. Looking at the latest reports that the debris are not from the Air France flight 447, is it possible to have an “Airport 77″ type of situation? The plane is intact underwater with all on board. Not sure if the plane body can withstand the pressure under 2 miles of water. But if that is a possibility can they try to detect the plane underwater using some highend sonar detecting technology?
    All this maybe wierd speculation, but with in it lies HOPE.

    Posted by: R. Kundu | Jun 5, 2009 12:54:00 PM


  12. R. Kundu, there's no way a plane could remain intact after falling from that height in such conditions. Plus, a plane wouldn't be nearly as hard to find. And all oxygen would be long gone.

    I too find it really gross that there's an oil slick so large that it was discounted because a plane couldn't hold that much. Oceans are becoming absolute cesspools.

    Posted by: Paul R | Jun 5, 2009 7:44:58 PM


  13. Has any media touched upon the other, "not from flt 447", mysterious random airplane seat and where it came from? Do these thing just fall from passing ships on a regular basis? Have there been -that- many plane crashes in that area or could it have floated from another crash site which occurred some time ago? ie. Did it take a ride on a gyre? This whole thing, even now, is making it really hard for me not to put on my nutter in tin foil hat face.

    Posted by: Maria | Jul 3, 2009 10:31:10 AM


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