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Will Obama Speak Out on Maine's Anti-Gay Marriage Measure?

David Mixner says he must:

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"If the president doesn't want his own words to be used in a hate-filled campaign then he better speak up now. We all remember what happened in California. Even though Obama opposed Proposition 8, his profile on the initiative was very low. As a result, the YES on 8 folks did mass mailings using Obama's own words against marriage equality to imply that he supported the divisive measure. Many liberals and African-Americans were confused and voted 'YES ON 8' as a result of those mailings and ads. Let's not let that happen again. To avoid a reoccurrence of that disaster, the president should immediately, strongly and unequivocally oppose the proposition in Maine. He should denounce the efforts of the right-wing to put human rights on the ballot to be voted upon as if it was just another measure for the voters. The president must not mince words or be tepid in his support or once again go into his belief that marriage is between a man and a woman. We got that, Mr. President. Time to come down without clever political language for full equality for the LGBT community."

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  1. Yea, don't hold your breath on this one.

    Should he stand up and say something? Absolutely. Will he? Probably not. Maybe Robert Gibbs will remark on it, but that's it.

    Obama ran as someone that was going to avoid taking a tough position on anything, and so far, he's governed that way.

    If he's caving on matters of life and death (health care reform), why would anyone think he'd take a position on an issue of fundamental fairness?

    Posted by: SadToSay | Sep 29, 2009 9:14:07 AM


  2. The same cunt that invited Rick Warren to speak at his inauguration? Speaking out against the YES ON 1 cretins? Yeah, that'll happen. Apparently Mixner wasn't listening when Obama stated "God is in the mix".

    Posted by: JohnInManhattan | Sep 29, 2009 9:34:21 AM


  3. I am sure the Yes on 1 people will use the same tactics and show that even the President doesn't support gay marriage. And the White House will issue some tepid statement that it is up to the states.

    Posted by: kujhawker | Sep 29, 2009 9:37:11 AM


  4. David Mixner says "The president must not mince words or be tepid in his support..."

    Uh, Mr. Mixner, have you been watching the Obama administration for the last eight months? Tepid is sort of their thing.

    Posted by: bobbyjoe | Sep 29, 2009 9:39:23 AM


  5. "If the president doesn't want his own words to be used in a hate-filled campaign then he better speak up now."

    That's a pretty huge "if", and with all precedent against it I think Mr. Mixner (or Maine) are going to be disappointed on that front.

    Posted by: PM | Sep 29, 2009 9:40:56 AM


  6. Obama-take a stand-
    That would be a "NO".

    Posted by: Nick | Sep 29, 2009 9:52:30 AM


  7. Um, how is this mincing words? He said, FLAT OUT, at one of the debates that he does not support gay marriage, only civil unions. We can't pretend to only ear what we want to. Sadly, he's not with us on this.

    Posted by: JEFFREY T | Sep 29, 2009 11:49:38 AM


  8. "Can't speak for Teh Gheys, too busy. Must fly to Denmark to shill for a Chicago 2016 Olympics..."

    Yet more Hope?

    Posted by: BradK | Sep 29, 2009 11:58:18 AM


  9. Jeff's right ... we're constantly ascribing thoughts and motives to Obama that have been flatly contradicted by his actions and current policies. The man does not view gays as equal to straights, and doesn't support gay marriage. It's something to despair about, especially when you consider there is the possibility the Dems may lose control of the House in 2010 (and if they do, we're totally screwed).

    Posted by: Freddy | Sep 29, 2009 11:59:08 AM


  10. Wow, is Mixner on drugs? Has he not been paying attention to anything? Obama has far too many important things like flying to Denmark to get the Olympics for Chicago to be bothered with anything like this.

    Posted by: Matt | Sep 29, 2009 12:32:07 PM


  11. I wrote Obama off after he fluffed Donnie McClurkin and stood by him when a furor erupted around McClurkin's homophobic bullshit. Jeffrey T is right on, we can't pretend to hear what we want to hear. He'll take our money, but he's not going to do shit for us if it means, you know, *actually doing something*.

    Posted by: Henry Holland | Sep 29, 2009 12:37:44 PM


  12. You guys are all unfairly forgetting that Barack Obama spoke out directly against prop 8 on numerous occasions, AND created a statement that EQCA refused to issue.

    If you're going to attack the man, at least get your facts straight. It wasn't Obama's fault that we failed in California, it was the fault of cowardly leaders who lacked the balls or ovaries to speak out against the lies and get the job done.

    Posted by: Cameronj | Sep 29, 2009 2:26:22 PM


  13. @CameronJ

    I think that I heard "according to my Christian beliefs, I believe that marriage is between a man and a woman" far more from Obama than I heard that Prop 8 was "divisive" and "discriminatory."

    Granted that No On 8 had a few soundbites that should have been used, Obama's split screen as it regards Prop 8 did hurt our side.

    Posted by: Chitown Kev | Sep 29, 2009 2:50:17 PM


  14. If I were Obama I WOULDNT speak out on this. It's not politically smart. He needs to keep the message on healthcare right now. If he stuck his neck out on this it would be all over the media and his opponents would simply use that to derail anything he is trying to accomplish as President. ESPECIALLY if he sticks his neck out and the measure fails. Let the man pass his major legislation first...healthcare, energy reform, financial regulation, etc. This will all get done this fall. If he's not able to get at least a good healthcare bill passed he will not have the political capital to do anything on gay equality measures.

    He's the commander in chief, not the spokesperson in chief.

    There are hundreds of groups that use the President's likeness, quotes, soundbites, etc. to push their own agendas. It would be beneath him to speak out on EVERY little thing that pops up on the web, cable tv, etc.

    We NEED our rights as soon as possible yes, but we just have to be patient and understand the political process.

    Obama doesn't need the "gay vote" to get reelected; but he still believes in our rights even if he isn't ready to publicly say he supports marriage equality.

    The way some in the gay community act Obama might just throw up his hands and say "fuck it" and not risk his presidency on any gay friendly legislation.

    Give the guy a chance.

    Posted by: Brian in Texas | Sep 29, 2009 4:18:25 PM


  15. @Chitown Kev: I'm not talking about sound bytes, I'm talking about an actual, written statement from Barack Obama to EQCA against Prop 8. that they decided not to use just before the election.

    This is a link to that letter: http://www.calitics.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=6307

    And this is relevant portion of the letter itself: "As the Democratic nominee for President, I am proud to join with and support the LGBT community in an effort to set our nation on a course that recognizes LGBT Americans with full equality under the law. That is why I support extending fully equal rights and benefits to same sex couples under both state and federal law. That is why I support repealing the Defense of Marriage Act and the "Don't Ask Don't Tell" policy, and the passage of laws to protect LGBT Americans from hate crimes and employment discrimination. And that is why I oppose the divisive and discriminatory efforts to amend the California Constitution, and similar efforts to amend the U.S. Constitution or those of other states.

    For too long. issues of LGBT rights have been exploited by those seeking to divide us. It's time to move beyond polarization and live up to our founding promise of equality by treating all our citizens with dignity and respect. This is no less than a core issue about who we are as Democrats and as Americans."

    Posted by: Cameronj | Sep 29, 2009 9:18:29 PM


  16. @CameronJ

    Uh, obvbiously since I quoted 2 words from that very same letter, I know of its' existence.

    Besides, Yes On 1 is not a constitutional amendment, only an override of the decision of the legislative and the executive branches of the state of Massachusetts.

    Actually, using that statement would be fine. I WANT Obama to keep his damn mouth closed because he wouldn't possibly say anything without saying that "marriage is between a man and a woman, in accordance with my Christian beliefs" And that kind of double talk would not help our side at all.

    Posted by: Chitown Kev | Sep 30, 2009 10:53:54 AM


  17. Forgive my spelling. It's early.

    Posted by: Chitown Kev | Sep 30, 2009 10:54:31 AM


  18. @CameronJ I just wanted to clarify that Obama sent a letter to the Alice B. Toklas Democratic club, not to EQCA.

    Also EQCA and the NO on 8 campaign DID publicize the existence of the letter at the time.

    Lest we forget, Obama still publicly opposes marriage equality, so he's not necessarily the best spokesperson on this.

    Posted by: George | Sep 30, 2009 12:47:36 PM


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