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Howard Dean: Kill the 'Terribly Disappointing' Health Care Bill


Howard Dean seems to be the only person making any sense in the health care bill debate right now, as the holidays approach, and Lieberman's selfish ego digs in, and  it looks like Democrats will compromise any bit of actual reform out of the bill just to see it pass.

Says Dean: "No, absolutely not. You can't vote for a bill like this in good conscience. It costs too much money. It isn't health care reform. It's not even insurance reform."

Said Dean on NPR earlier: “This is essentially the collapse of health care reform in the United States Senate. Honestly the best thing to do right now is kill the Senate bill, go back to the House, start the reconciliation process, where you only need 51 votes and it would be a much simpler bill.”


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  1. Bravo Howard! 100 percent accurate.
    It won't happen however as the spineless DINO's will want to pass some kind of bill-any kind of bill. My heart goes out to folks who really thought that any real change would come last year. Business as usual.

    Posted by: Nick | Dec 16, 2009 8:16:52 AM

  2. This bill will get forced through no matter what. It's gone from being something for the good of the American people to something for the good of the Democratic party's ego.

    Universal healthcare is an extremely laudable goal, however, this bill is just ruined at this point and will only hurt more people that it helps.

    Posted by: MT | Dec 16, 2009 8:19:21 AM

  3. We all need to call Sen Lieberman's office today to tell him how displeased we are that he has taken out the public option, and also taken out the option for millions of 55+ aged people to buy into the medicare system. By removing these two things, he has basically locked 35 million individuals into being forced to buy insurance from private carriers. It is no wonder why the insurance industry, which is headquartered in his state, has given over $1MM+ to his campaigns. His office number is 202-224-4041. Call him and tell him you are going to canvass his state door to door to get him unelected if he continues with his private agenda

    Posted by: Doug | Dec 16, 2009 8:29:52 AM

  4. Heartbreaking. Thanks to Howard Dean for speaking the truth.

    Posted by: ichabod | Dec 16, 2009 8:30:18 AM

  5. I love that man. He is the best of the best in the Democratic party.

    Posted by: Joe_in_PHX | Dec 16, 2009 8:32:40 AM

  6. To think how smart this man is and we freak out when he screamed at a rally and we had to deal with Bush. If we only would have gave him a shot back then I'm just sayin.

    Posted by: Ryan | Dec 16, 2009 8:41:36 AM

  7. This whole thing makes me ill (no pun intended). Harry Reid should let the fu#kers filibuster - make them drag their asses up to the podium and spew nonsense so the American people can see just how ridiculous they are. This whole "virtual" filibuster crap has bastardized the system. A filibuster was meant to be something difficult, instead we have the Nintendo version which is requiring no effort, and thus gets misused. The democratic leadership has failed us, the president has failed us... to say I am disappointed is a major understatement.

    Posted by: Mike | Dec 16, 2009 9:00:04 AM

  8. The bill is still in play only because it would hurt the Dems more to abandon it than to pass broken, ineffective health care "reform." Thank you Howard Dean for saying what everyone else knows, but refuses to acknowledge.

    Posted by: Markl | Dec 16, 2009 10:13:42 AM

  9. Although I think Dr. Dean was, in large part, responsible for weak LGBT advocacy among the national Dems, he speaks the truth regarding health care. Senator Lieberman is a despicable creature and is responsible for the failure of meaningful healthcare reform.

    Posted by: JT | Dec 16, 2009 10:24:43 AM

  10. You go Howard!

    Posted by: Keith | Dec 16, 2009 10:35:26 AM

  11. First, Lieberman is a snake in the grass and always has been. He's PO'd at all the progressives that supported Lamont and now it's payback time. He will do anything to torture and whip up the "liberals"in the Democratic caucus, he's now made politics very personal. This is only the beginning, and he's enjoying every minute of it.

    Second, Obama has already told the Dems he needs a bill, period. If there is no health care bill, no matter how bad, it will hurt his Presidency personally and weaken him in the eyes of the voters. If he gets hurt, he will not be able to help Democratic Senators in their re-election bids. So no matter what crap comes out in the form of a bill, the President and the Dems will spin it and sell it like a TV huckster sells "Sham Wows", and believe me, this bill is a sham and when people are forced to buy insurance from a private insurer at three times the usual premium or be fined by the IRS, you'll hear a collective "wow"!!

    I'm afraid that those of us that supported Obama and his promise of "Change We Can Believe In" are realizing we've been punked. But Rahm Emanuel has convinced Obama that the progressive wing of the party will always come back at election time "because they have no place else to go". Until the money starts to dry up and the voters start challenging "ConservaDems" in primaries and refuse to vote for the "lessor of two evils", things will never change.

    Posted by: Bob R | Dec 16, 2009 10:46:13 AM

  12. Howard Dean is usually right on target with his diagnosis of health care.

    If the administration is naive enough to believe their poll numbers will go up after they pass Lieberman's HMO Christmas gift and call it "reform," then they are going to have a shock in January.

    And come November?

    Say hello to Speaker Boehner and Majority Leader Cantor. Not to mention all the GOP closet cases - Dreier, Schock, and friends - who will have subpoena powers as newly minted committee chairs.

    Posted by: John | Dec 16, 2009 12:42:09 PM

  13. DEAN speaks the truth.

    No one (in power) will listen.
    He layed the groundwork for Obama's online money machine.
    His 50 State Strategy won Obama his election.
    And Obama listens to Lieberman and Rahm.

    So we won't lose our majority in the Senate next year that's just a scare tactic the DNC and Obama will employ.
    But we can easily afford to lose Sen Reid in that deal. Cause we need a better Leader and the only way Reid will step down is if he's not re-elected.
    And I can live with that.

    Posted by: MCnNYC | Dec 16, 2009 2:32:45 PM

  14. I think someone might have mentioned this, but Joe Lieberman is waste of oxygen. However, he's not what should be the focus here. He loves the attention, as howard dean said. I also think Russ Feingold had a point when he thinks the person who should bear the brunt of the blame for this joke "reform" is Obama, who hasn't said a thing about the the bill. Obama hasn't pressured congress to act one way or the other with regard to the public option, so long as they get legislation that says healthcare reform passed. He only cares about the label, whatever it's attached to, so he can claim a victory regardless of whether real reform has happened, or whether or not people are forced to pay the obscene rates offered by private insurers, since the public option was dropped. Obama's just as much an enemy of the public option as lieberman.

    Posted by: TANK | Dec 16, 2009 5:42:22 PM

  15. Tank you are a very boring broken record....yawn.

    Posted by: DJ | Dec 16, 2009 9:57:22 PM

  16. It IS truly heartbreaking. Literally the ONLY thing in this country that needs fixing more than health care is the legislative process and the role of special interests. Hmmmm...maybe education as I can't fathom ANYONE without a financial stake in this mess and with any kind of real understaning of the situation making the case for the status quo or worse...the currently debated bill.

    Posted by: karen | Dec 16, 2009 11:10:40 PM

  17. Everyone should send their medical insurance premiums and refer the collection agencies to Sen Lieberman's office 202-224-4041....

    Posted by: drumstick | Dec 17, 2009 1:47:13 AM

  18. The whole country is wakening up the the truth:

    This bill is imply CORPORATE WELFARE for the insurance industry.

    Obama has pretty much lost it. I guess he was always a CORPORATE WHORE and people are now opening their to this reality.

    Kill the Bill!

    And go Dean! Let's primary Obama out of the White House. We worked hard to get him elected, and all he has done is work for Wal St., more wars, Insurance companies, Pharms, and more. Obama is simply a LIAR.

    Posted by: FunMe | Dec 17, 2009 2:34:47 AM

  19. tank, YOU are still lurking around here? Ugh!

    You remind me of a newscaster named "Jane":

    Here, have a peanut and thanks for the COMIC RELIEF.

    Posted by: FunMe | Dec 17, 2009 2:37:20 AM

  20. Dean is correct. The real enemy in this mess isn't the Insurance Agent Senator from Connecticut. The *real* enemy is Rahm Emmanuel. You can pretty much *expect* the Republicans to shit all over you, but Rahm, with his cadre of DNC-selected "Blue Dog" Democrats (supported by Rahm) are the main reason for this fiasco. But Obama listens to Rahm, so bend over America -- you're about to get it HARD, without lube!

    Posted by: Nathanial | Dec 17, 2009 4:54:21 PM

  21. ...this is the fraud you can't believe in, what a disappointment - this is not reform at all but a watered down type "C" of bill.- kill it

    Posted by: Paul S | Dec 20, 2009 7:10:26 PM

  22. Rahm Emmanuel spent a total of 30 months outside of government employ in his entire working life, and in that thirty months, made an estimated $18 million at a private investment firm.

    Obama is just as much to blame for this as joe lieberman. He actually thanked Joe "I endorse McCain for President" Lieberman for his support after he'd killed the medicare extension and public option.

    $600 million was spent by the insurance lobby within the past two years in campaign contributions among other things for this bailout legislation. Who do you think the insurance lobby employs? Former aides to congressmen and former congressmen...

    Posted by: TANK | Dec 20, 2009 7:25:08 PM

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