1. FizziekruntNT says

    Every year, PETA becomes more a caricature of its former serious self and damages its own efficacy. A robot groundhog? Work to change legislation in regard to the cruelty of factory farms and create deterrents for such horrors, certainly, but a celebrity groundhog? Pathetic.

  2. Walter says

    PETA … what a joke.

    If they really wanted to end abuse and have people go veggie — this is NOT how to do it.

    Obviously they have executives that are now running the place just as a way to make a living.

    I really like how the Ice Skater responded this week to them. Most Animal Activists I have met really have psychological issues and do not respect fellow humans.

  3. Alexander says

    Just to ask the question we’re all thinking…

    How many Phils have we gone through now? I mean, the ceremony has been going since 1886! Did they think they could just “Lassie” us and think we wouldn’t know?! Oh, Phils…

    A little off-topic, but the Google Ad at the top seems to want me to buy Groundhog Day Decorations… what the hell is a Groundhog Day decoration?!

  4. Sargon Bighorn says

    PLEASE note that the man holding that flea infested pseudo-rat is wearing an American Flag designed scarf. THAT is a constructed move, not a stick-hand-in-closet-garb-something-to-wear move. He’s telling people (PETA?) that to oppose this goofy event they are dealing not with a pseudo-rat BUT THE AMERICAN FLAG! Gay America, take note. When you ask for Equality WAVE THAT FLAG!

  5. TANK says

    “How many Phils have we gone through now?”

    Ya know for some of the folks who post here, that’s not going to be an answerable question.

  6. MT says

    I read a statistic in this week’s New York Magazine that PETA has killed 85% of all the animals it has ever rescued. What use are they if they are going to do that?

    The article goes on to skewer PETA pretty well (and with a very reasonable argument). Those people are even more worthless and self-righteous than I had ever imagined.

  7. TANK says

    Talfaz, there’s really no ethical objection to cannibalism if you’re a meat eater. I’ve never met an openly gay vegetarian…I mean one that only ate vegetables. At least in this case, the animal in question has consented to being consumed…you can’t say that that is the case of slaughter animals.

  8. Omira says

    You never, Tank, met a gay man who ate only vegetables? My last BF was a “raw foodist,” and you can Google that.

  9. says

    “Gay America, take note. When you ask for Equality WAVE THAT FLAG!”


    By the by, I agree, the Caddyshack gopher is probably one step off of Celebrity Rehab by now, bet he works cheap.

  10. TANK says

    Omira, does that mean you didn’t wear a condom with him? That’s very irresponsible. Always buckle up.

  11. Jack M says

    I’m starting to think that being a member of PETA and being a Scientologist are basically the same thing.

  12. AdamO says

    I’m a vegan, but I’ll have to agree that PETA is a bit off the deep end here– er, all the time.

  13. says

    I happen to be an openly gay vegan. Not everyone agrees with PETA’s tactics (My personal ‘tactics’ are more philosophically aligned with those of Mercy for Animals), but you can’t really discredit them for openly speaking out against all forms of animal exploitation–something we vegans are morally and ethically opposed to. Different people are affected through different tactics. We can say the same about gay rights organizations. The Human Rights Campaign PISSES me off with their waffling ‘tactics.’ Still, I won’t discredit the good work they do.

    PETA (and especially Ingrid Newkirk) realize that we live in a sensationalist world where people respond to humorous (“insane” as some of you may say) images and tactics. Shock works to affect some people; so does infuriaton. Its efficacy can be debated against more ‘peaceful’ approaches, and both sides can make fair arguments. However, the intentions and the people behind them shouldn’t be deemed “insane” just because you don’t agree with the methods employed. That’s unfair to any group, any cause.

    Also, for the record, I know a lot of vegans (being one, of course), and nothing offends me more than when people say things like, “What are they doing for humans?” IT’S IRRELEVANT!!! HOWEVER, for the record, ALL of the vegans I know are active in human rights organizations–vocally (through protests) and monetarily. All of my vegan friends have stood up against Prop 8, giving their time and money. All of my vegan friends have given to help towards relief in Haiti. Usually, the people who make the claim that vegans and animal rights activists don’t do anything for people are the ones who aren’t actually doing anything for people. Vegans understand that affecting real change begins with a respect for ALL life.

  14. devilgirl says

    PETA needs to STFU. They put more animals to death each year than they save. They are a terrible organization, and care only about bullying people and not the real welfare of animals.

  15. Will says

    PETA should be working on education and legislation.

    You just know that “Phil” has to be very well treated.

    There is an element in PETA that makes me think of the Fred Phelps – Westboro Baptist Church wingnuts.

    It’s this kind of pronouncement from PETA that makes the organization a laughing stock.

    No wonder most people have no respect for this organization. In fact, they think they’re lunatics.

  16. TANK says

    People don’t have a very high opinion of vegetarians in general in the united states. It’s because we’re a meat eating country. I don’t know if it’s the fact that they can’t ethically justify eating meat (I do, and know it’s wrong), because of the suffering that the animals endure to provide it for consumption. MEh, I don’t think that’s deep. I think it’s likely the usual sexism mixed with tradition and enjoyment. I eat meat (lol!), but it’s unjustifiable given the degree of torture that animals are subjected in factory farms, etc. No pleasure derived from eating the flesh of beings that can suffer and do, in fact, suffer justifies the suffering that occurred to bring about that pleasure. So you can see it’s really not that eating animals is bad simpliciter (or in and of itself), but how those animals are prepared…and anyone who eats meat supports those practices (including myself). As to helping humans, that’s another ethical obligation, too. It doesn’t excuse what we do to non-human animals, though.

  17. m says

    you know, i’ve kept my opinions about PETA to myself for years now – even tried to be open-minded about their causes. i never supported or contributed to their movements but i didn’t berate them either…til now.

    fuck PETA, this is beyond all rationality. i’m fucking over them. and! i’m tired of them objectifying women to increase awareness. airbrushing occurs in nature?

  18. Karin says

    I always thought PETA was nutty, but after they tried to exploit Tim McLean’s murder ( for attention it was painfully obvious how much disregard they have for human life. Their record with shelter animals also shows they have little regard for animals either. All that matters is money and presstime. And sorry for the extremely depressing link, but that is just how awful PETA is.

  19. Darrell says

    I think PETA should be replaced by robots!
    Anything they do not agree with, is vile, bad, inhumane blah blah blah, As a Canadian whose nation was founded on the Fur Trade, I think that responsible activists would realize that we as humans have harvested animals, fish. etc for various uses for millenia, if it’s done in a humane way fine, if not change methods.
    They managed to cripple the Seal hunt by brainwashing the Europeans that cute baby seals are still being clubbed and shot, (they aren’t) the seals hunted now are older and not the cute fluffy white ones we used to see. But the EU recently passed a law banning Seal oriented goods except those from the Inuit (here is the kicker the Inuit people can’t sell anything because of the law since the Europeans won’t touch sealskin products.) On the upside Canada has discovered that China is a HUGE market for these items since they are less likely to care. The Chinese, will eat or wear anything that walks,swims or fly’s. PETA has morphed into a radical fringe organization not the responsible activists they once were.