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Watch: Dutch Activists Protest Catholic Policy Denying Communion to Gays in Church Walk-out

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Angry Dutch activists walked out of a mass at The Sint-Jan church in the city of 's-Hertogenbosch on Sunday to protest the Catholic Church's denial of communion to gays and lesbians. 

Church  The church had learned of the protest in advance, so it decided not to serve communion, inspiring a mass exodus.

The BBC reports: "This dispute began during Dutch carnival celebrations earlier in February, when the man chosen to be carnival prince in nearby Reusel was refused communion because of his open homosexuality. The refusal offended many in the local community."

Videos of the action, AFTER THE JUMP...

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  1. I wish that the GLBT religions groups in the US would directly confront their church hierarchies, rather than simply be second-class exile groups for glbt persons.

    Posted by: Pete | Mar 1, 2010 9:14:14 AM


  2. How did I not know The Supremes were having another reunion!?!?!

    Posted by: john in pa | Mar 1, 2010 9:15:32 AM


  3. Canon Law n.915 mandates the denial of Communion to all “manifest, obstinate, persistent sinners".

    So I guess that means the evil Homosexual. Bum-bum-bummmmm!

    Posted by: Andrew F | Mar 1, 2010 11:33:27 AM


  4. Small correction: as a native Dutch speaker I could understand the news segments, and here in Belgium this case has caused a lot of commotion as well. Those were not all activists that walked out. Most of them were (straight) regular churchgoers that were outraged by the priest's actions. As the director of the Gaykrant (gay magazine in Holland) eloquently put it: This is no longer a church of people. If this is still a church of God, is only up to Him to judge.

    Posted by: Bob | Mar 1, 2010 11:40:21 AM


  5. No church should be forced or threatened regarding their own doctrine. Non-Christians and nonbelievers in Jesus Christ cannot take Communion. Should churches be forced to allow non-Christians to take Holy Communion too? Religious bodies should be allowed to be as exclusive and dogmatic as they want in their own religious activities. If you disagree with religious doctrines or practices, go to a church that comports with your beliefs; don't try to usurp a church's beliefs and practices. We are treading on dangerous ground when we perpetuate the notion that gay rights undermine religious freedoms and practice.

    Posted by: Jake | Mar 1, 2010 1:25:18 PM


  6. Jake, so, then, the church was right about Galileo?

    Posted by: Mr. E | Mar 1, 2010 2:22:31 PM


  7. Quoted from the Washington Post 10/02/05, "On questions of homosexuality generally, the words of Benedict himself are a major Catholic reference point. In 1975, he issued the "Declaration on Certain Questions Concerning Sexual Ethics" which distinguished between homosexuality that "is transitory" and homosexuality resulting from "some kind of innate instinct or a pathological constitution judged to be incurable."

    The declaration went on to appeal for empathy: "Homosexuals must certainly be treated with understanding and sustained in the hope of overcoming their personal difficulties."

    The Dutch Church should heed Holy Mother Church - minister to 'transitory" homos, allow them the Rite of Communion and permit them to join fully in union with catholic sinners.

    Posted by: grego | Mar 1, 2010 2:24:33 PM


  8. Until a religions influence is completely out of the law I have every right to fuck with any religious service, anywhere.

    Posted by: Mr. E | Mar 1, 2010 2:31:54 PM


  9. @Grego!!!!! OMG, that's almost exactly what the Nazi's had done. They separated homosexuals into two categories, the 'innate' and the 'learned' homosexual. Your punishment was based on what category you fell under. If you could prove you were just 'seduced' you were spared the concentration camps but sent to the front lines.
    MORE PROOF that the current Pope is still a Nazi!!!!!

    Posted by: Mr. E | Mar 1, 2010 2:38:32 PM


  10. The catholic church destroyed the italian renaissance when it forced galileo to recant his observations verifying the heliocentric model of the solar system...

    "In order to convince those obdurate men, who are out for the vain approval of the stupid vulgar, it would not me enough even if the stars came down on earth to bring witness about themselves. Let us be concerned only with gaining knowledge for ourselves, and let us find therein our consolation."

    We can't, as gay people, content ourselves with gaining knowledge for ourselves, as it is a political issue. But much the same remains amongst the stupid and vulgar religious (and not all religious people are stupid and vulgar...galileo was a catholic...I don't know if he remained one after the church held a knife to his throat and made him recant his scientific findings and corrupt the principles of empirical investigation and sincerely endeavored to ruin his life). The lutherans tried the same with kepler. Religion, historically (and yes, I include all supernaturalism), is the darkness that serves the purpose of extinguishing the light of understanding and knowledge. It ruins lives whenever it can...usually the lives of smart people that know better than to fall prey to its primitive and false descriptions of the case. Whenever it conflicts with reality (and it usually does), it needs to be forcefully put down like a rabid dog that poses a threat to progress.

    Why on earth would these people want to participate in such a backward, primitive institution? It baffles the mind...their protest endeavors to change the fact that these simplicos don't extend communion to gay people...but who cares? I'll never understand why anyone would want to participate in organized faith, or faith of any kind...because it's not rational. Do religionists ever stop being children?

    Posted by: TANK | Mar 1, 2010 5:39:02 PM


  11. @Jake, no church was forced or threatened regarding their doctrine. In this case, the congregation did what you suggested. They got up and left, and I hope, found a more inclusive service someplace else.

    Posted by: the other Pete | Mar 1, 2010 9:34:56 PM


  12. When did LGBTQ people across the globe become suddenly incapable of thinking outside the cage of hetero culture, religion, marriage and other follow-the-lemming forms of ersatz respectability? I apparently didn't get the memo.

    Sure their gowns are amusing, but those queens are picking a fight over their right to a magic cookie. Of course equality means being entitled to the same rights everyone else has - even when it's a mind-deadening, soul-destroying lie put directly into your mouth by the shaking hand of a toxic pedophile reeking of Old Spice, cheap wine, and insufficient hygiene.

    Intelligence, however, means knowing when to say just say no. Or better yet, know.

    Posted by: Bryan | Mar 2, 2010 12:56:58 AM


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