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  1. Snowlowe says

    You all should check out this guy’s channel. His name is Andrew and he has a lot of good stuff. This particular clip is good but by no means the best of the bunch.

  2. Dback says

    Hmmmm. I think the point of the orginal was the unexpectedness of the twist, and the sweet, lightly humorous tone. This is quite funny, but about as subtle as a sledgehammer, and the stereotypes make it easier to dismiss. Am I being over-critical?

  3. Spot says

    Pretty uninspired actually. Maybe the bar for humor is set too low.

    White boys (or men) acting like caricatures of black women does in fact have a shelf life that already expired.

  4. Ian says

    This wasn’t parody, this was actually quite homophobic and insulting to gays. It also shows why the original commercial can air in a place like France but not America, as we are still so very backward and not progressive on this subject matter.

  5. josh says

    This is sad coming from Andrew.

    A better spoof, as I just posted to his blog, would have been to have a PFLAG type parent trying to encourage a NON-stereotypical gay kid to join the military or get married and have a gay wedding…. that would have been bold and not a stereotype.

    Instead Andrew saw this as an opportunity to tap into viral videos for fame and of course this will get great play among the gay-haters and tea partiers.

  6. JR says

    It’s a parody ya’ll. If he played it completely straight and not effeminate it would just be the original commercial.
    Correct me if I’m wrong, but I think the joke isn’t on the kid being super gay, but on the dad ignoring the OBVIOUS fact that his son is gay.

  7. John says

    The guy in the French commercial was much more attractive. Also, in the French commercial there was the “first love” at school angle which was very believable.

    This parody was just crass, but that’s what the internet is for. Not everyone has McDonald’s resources to do casting.

  8. HawaiiBill says

    It’s unfunny and almost as offensive as that stupid Cisco Valet commercial running on Logo. With all the acting and writing talent we have as a community, you’d think we could do better.

    @SPOT: Perfectly stated.

  9. RyanInSacto says

    @JR: I think you’re right. It’s the obliviousness of the father – which just exaggerates the same plot feature of the original spot – that creates the humor. Well, that and the twink making that funny sound when he says OK. 😉 Anyway, everybody needs to chill the fuck out and laugh a little.

  10. Jameson says

    It’s not about chillin’ — give us a break. It’s not funny. It’s bad comedy for the “Eating Out” and “Another Gay Movie” crowd. And it’s tired.

    And it’s for people like JR, for people who can’t even spell slang — it’s y’all — you all (contract it and take out the missing letters, how hard is that?) — it’s not ya’ll. Talk about the bar being set low.

    This is definitely “the American version.” The French version is sophisticated, provocative, and not a stereotype. Like any number of French gay films are.

    This is tacky, unimaginative, and naturally for Americans — still dealing with its own issues — especially Andrew Keenan Bolger who can’t apparently decide if he thinks this gay character is witty or just a waking joke.

  11. E says

    It’s Funny ‘Cause it’s Funny. Anyone can over criticize anything. The Irony that parents refuse to acknowledge the personalities of their own children is all to common and to funny. If you have kids and socialize with other parents you know what I’m talking about. Sometimes it’s OK to laugh at ourselves!

  12. josh says

    These comments are lining up nicely.

    We can see the level of intelligence in the crowd that thinks it’s clever. “to common and to funny.” Damn. Too too scary.

    The comments above that this is for the “Eating Out” crowd hit the nail on the head.

  13. JR says

    Jameson, I totally get what you’re saying and you’re definitely right. Also, sorry to have misspelled “y’all.” Didn’t realize a misplaced apostrophe was really setting the bar that low.

    I just wonder how else he was supposed to characterize that kid? If he was “sophisticated, provocative, and not a stereotype” isn’t that just the original commercial?
    I don’t know. I’m gay. I laughed. It’s funny! And his little gay teenager character while stereotypical is still endearing. I mean, he did go as Flo, the Progressive lady for Halloween. That’s not exactly unsophisticated :)

  14. Joe L says

    Does anyone know what the song is or who sings it? “no final curtain, and nothing is for certain, and nothing’s set in stone. There’s no big bow…”

  15. tinalouise says

    “I went as the Progressive Insurance lady”. LMFAO. BTW, her name is Flo. And to all you critical bitcheses: STOP. RELAX. Its all just good fun.

  16. josh says

    JR:

    I can’t speak for Jameson, but as I just posted over on Andrew’s blog, we have choices when it comes to being funny — we can continue to stereotype ourselves for laughs from straight people who like to ridicule us as being that way, or we can be provocative in other ways.

    How about a gay kid in denial, someone who thinks he’s straight acting and butch, with the parent not being the less open one and encouraging his kid to be who he is? A good actor and writer could have made that funny.

    Or a gay-friendly parent who thinks the kid should have a gay wedding and join the military — and have a NON-stereotypical kid offer a different point of view about “being who you are.”

    Instead, Andrew — who I know is smarter than this — chose to play into the hands of people who think we are the worst stereotype. He says this is closer to the kid he was — but I doubt he was this extreme.

    And sorry, I think we’ve seen this all before. The Progressive lady? Mildly amusing and current-event referential. But sophisticated? No.

    The Mike White – Justin Long marriage ad is sharp and sophisticated. This is not.

  17. Jameson says

    Thanks, Josh. I would agree with that.

    If Adam Sandler or some straight SNL comedian had done the EXACT character in the EXACT same way with the same script as this guy did, there’d be a much bigger uproar about how straight people see and portray us.

    And yet, have we already forgotten how Adam Sandler — a Republican — didn’t mince around and instead produced a classic ad parody with gay content? Does no one remember Schmitt’s beer?

    Sad that this is what we’ve come to.

  18. says

    Ok, this is funny – but I’d like to point out that the French ad was awesome because it was showing a young gay boy who possessed none of these stupid stereotypes just enjoying company with his father. How many gays actually act like this? These stereotypes are so old.

  19. Spot says

    At the risk of making this go on even longer…

    My concern, as a member of the gay community, is that people find this funny because some people like to look at the effeminate gays as funny, while at the same time holding themselves as “better”.

    It’s easy to laugh at someone stereotyping a behavior you don’t assign to yourself.

  20. Daniel says

    INTERNALIZED HOMOPHOBIA EVERYONE :) I mean those of you who can’t smile to something as light-hearted as that video. I smiled, ’cause I love nancy boys and am one at times. Try to open your minds just as much as your recti.

  21. Mayor McQueen says

    The problem with you some of you girls is you’ve lost your senses of humor (not to mention you’re Pedantic Pollys). Everything has to Advance The Cause first. What was funny about this video is the total cluelessness of the idiot father when his son is flaming. It’s irony. It’s not subtle irony, admittedly, but still. It shows how some parents can never admit their kids are gay, if you want a message.

  22. josh says

    It’s AMAZING how you “get a sense of humor” morons make it all about that.

    The Mike White-Justin Long ad plays them both as femme boys — and it’s hilarious.

    This isn’t spoofing the dad. It’s spoofing the KID. And as was said above, you know if a straight comedian did this, you wouldn’t say it’s funny.

    I bet half of the people who are defending this bash Sean Hayes in W&G as a stereotype.

  23. Pedigru says

    It seems fairly clear, to me anyhow, that Andrew (the maker of the parody) saw the original commercial and felt, like myself and a couple others here, that there was no gay message or anything remotely promoting of homosexuality. The original commercial was a lesson in heterosexism.

    Re-watch the original commercial. You have 5% of subtle hinting of a shy gay teenager who is closeted. Then you have 95% of a stereotypical heterosexual father bragging about his sexual exploits as well as bragging that his (supposedly) straight son would also have sexual exploits were there any girls in his class. (This is what society wants…heterosexual dominance, keep the gays around but only if they’re in the closet and silent about who they really are.)

    That’s not progressive. There is no positive gay theme. You cannot argue that that commercial is a good thing for the gay community.

    Andrew may have been a bit over-the-top, but the message he conveys is simple. The original commercial was lacking context and any kind of a gay message.

    The fact so many of you were thrilled and positive of the original commercial to only now be attacking a more poignant version of it…just leads me to believe you’re all a bunch of republicans.

  24. Jeff says

    @JOE L

    The song is sung by Jake Wilson….not even kidding when I tell you he’s the maker of the recent “Baby Gaga” spoof. These two spoof makers are friends. Search youtube for “The Battery’s Down”. That song is probably from his web series.

  25. Anthony says

    I didn’t find this parody all that creative or funny. I wasn’t offended by any means (mostly because we all know people that are extremely effeminate and I don’t that brand of effeminacy a la the twink as a bad thing to be). I just think it’s sort of uncreative. The stereotype doesn’t bother me, it’s just that it’s such a tired stereotype. There are so many generalizations we can make about our community in a funny way that can come off as endearing without have to resort automatically to the “fairy” (or the leather daddy for that matter).

    And regarding the original ad, I liked it. I didn’t view it as some groundbreaking statement on homosexuality in the media, but I enjoyed it. I think the ad relates to lots of us who were closeted in our youth and had parents that had assumptions about us (mainly that we’d end up straight) but we didn’t hold that against them. The commercial portrays the kind of father/son relationship that is fairly common these days, and perhaps more-so in France. That is, we have a kid who is young, he’s an adolescent, and his dad of course assumes he’s straight, but he’s gay, and he doesn’t fault his dad for projecting a little bit onto him. He still loves his dad, they are comfortable together. He can’t tell his dad everything yet, but he can share some things with him, and they can have a meal together at McDonald’s. The ad isn’t selling gayness, it’s selling hamburgers. This ad is one in a series showing different people from different backgrounds and showing that McDonald’s is a comfortable place where you can be yourself, and be with your family, and be at any point in your life whatsoever. It’s not like this is a closeted 40 year old man with his wife and kids getting food while he’s talking to his male lover on the other end. It’s a teenage boy, falling in love for the first time, and being happy to be gay, but not quite at the point where he wants to tell Dad. And he seems okay with that. It’s not overtly sexual, it’s mild and innocent, thus it portrays young gays as it would portray any young teenager: smitten, but not sexual. I find the ad endearing because it’s portrays coming out as less of a cross to bear than a rite of passage. It’s a little ideal, but it’s advertising.

  26. dcwv says

    Oh yes. This is funny because, as we all know, gay men have no intelligent sense of humor. They are only funny when acting as a wildly broad caricature of a prancing, lisping, limp-wristed fool. This should be about as hilarious to the gay community as a prancing mammy in black face would be to the black community.

  27. Mayor McQueen says

    I don’t know, Tone, for a bunch of straighter-than-thou gays, you seem pretty bitchy and insecure. And the homophobes are going to class you with the rest of us no matter how straight you act for them. You tough boys better go after the awards, fashion and decorating shows next: have you seen the silly queens on those things?!! OMG!!! We can’t have it! People might get the impression gays are interested in style and we know what a horrible lie that is.

  28. Alex says

    I guess you could count me as one of the “critical gays” ’cause I didn’t find it funny or clever or cute or positive in any way. It’s just playing to the same tired stereotypes of gay men and straight parents. If someone wants to do a parody, they should take another stab at it. (Maybe a gay parent of a straight child??)

  29. MarkDC says

    When you compare this parody to the French commercial and really think about it…it doesn’t seem so funny. It’s so obvious this would be America.

    It demonstrates how we commodify identity into a grotesque and reductive minstrel show of mannered affectation.

    The French commercial made me feel good. This, even though a parody, is just depressing.

  30. Bill says

    The French commercial was very well done, and very real. Leave it to America to jump all over it and turn it into ridicule. As long as we keep that sort of stereotype going (and yes, we all know similar people), kids like the French kid will opt to stay in the closet. Remember, we also know a lot of people just like the French kid, who ar just like other people, EXCEPT in their choice of partners.

  31. nick says

    I think that the point is it takes the piss out of McD’s for trying to position their restaurants as somehow progressive by making the French commercial in the first place. Whilst the French guy is cute the ad itself says ‘come as you are’ but does nothing to show how the boy will achieve that with a father who clearly thinks he’s straight. Whilst it brings a gay teen to visibility it doesn’t show him and his father understanding each other – the father ends the ad as out of touch as at the neginning. This version at least brings the issue front and centre and plays up the ridiculousness of the notion of the ad, i.e a fast food company having any connection to that issue.

    An incredibly naff company is peddling its unhealthy, unsustainable food and trying to give itself an air of respectability and credibility so this spoof shoots through all that. The reality is that in most McD’s if a gay couple acted the way a straight couple might and showed affection to each other they’d probably get their heads beaten in by kids hyped up on the fast food junk they just shoved down their faces. The staff would probably just stand there watching. Hmm, come as you are eh?

    I don’t know about the US but over here (UK) all McD’s have been refurbished with new ‘neutral’ dark green and ‘natural’ wood tones to make them look more environmentally friendly. Once inside it’s the same story of fat laden fried foods and calorie loaded crap, with big pictures of salads that no-one orders splashed all over the walls.

    Anyone who buys into their rebrand and the original ad is pretty short sighted.

  32. Mark Hutchinson says

    My issue is why do we “progressive Americans” have a spoof/parady..why can’t WE be the ones making and accepting the great commercial – because Americans are so freekin phobic that McDonalds would lose a fortune running an authentic commercial. And this is the greatest country..hmm

  33. Zach says

    I don’t understand the controversy here. In fact I’m a little offended that people are getting all offended. I think it’s hilarious because I know homos that are just like this, and I love them.
    Like it or not there is a characteristic way of speaking, acting, phrasing within gay subcultures particularly the one’s that have fully accepted and integrated into their lives the fact that they are gay without shame. Like it or not there are more progressive places in the world where gay men no longer need to pass as straight in order to get along in the world. Like it or not some gay men counter stereotypes, some do not, and some like to play up the stereotype rather than suppress their own flamboyant tendencies; call one another queen, dress in drag for halloween, and make crude dick jokes.

    To suggest that every gay man shown to the straight world should counter feminine stereotypes insinuates that the only way to be a man is to fight any feminine traits. There’s absolutely nothing offensive about this, it’s a gay dude lovingly playing a raging queen owning the fact that he’s a raging queen. Let’s all stop this heteronormative bullshit and love one another. Okrrr?

  34. georgemac says

    We of all people should be embracing of so-called “stereotypical gays.” Since when was one type of queerness better than another? Is “non-stereotypical gay man” simply code for “straight-acting gay man”?

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