1. daya says

    I have often thought the Right Wing(nut) Republicans are really no different then the religious radicals that are being fought in Afganistan. During the “W” years they used Gay Americans as a lightening rod to draw crowds to the polls. This year they are using Muslim Americans. It is the same tactic.

  2. Mike says

    Of course Dan Webster deserves to be compared to the Taliban. Just listen to what he is saying! When are gay people (and Democrats) going to learn to take their own side in a fight? Anyone who sees women as sub-human as Webster clearly does should be cut no slack in public discourse, and especially in the political arena.

  3. says

    It is high time liberals started calling out these religious extremists for what they are. These guys ARE the American Taliban. Not out of bounds at all. I hope more liberals and Democrats start hitting back and hitting back hard.

  4. patrick nyc says

    Fight fire with fire, the people of this country only understand sound bites, it’s about time the tables were turned on the right wing nuts.

  5. aj says

    This is ridiculous and over-the-top. Grayson is an absolute idiot, and I am mortified and embarrassed to be in the same political party as that fool. Let’s not fall into the “they did it first” mentality… it sounds ridiculous when first graders do it, and downright preposterous when adults follow suit. Grayson is a blow-hard and joke. I urge any democrat in his district to challenge him in the next primary… let’s dump this guy.

  6. Yet Another Mike says

    Totally out of bounds. By making the comparison we minimize the evil of the actual Taliban. You know, those people who actually *execute* gays. Yes, the religious right in America want to deny us basic rights, and we should absolutely fight that. But none of them are calling for stoning us in the streets. Sorry, I’m not a fan of the “my opponent is evil” kind of politics, not when there is *actual* evil out there. I think Grayson’s ad could end up costing him.

  7. ohplease says

    “(C)omparing opponents to religious fanatics”? You don’t seem to have noticed, but Dan Webster, for instance, IS a religious fanatic. Exactly how fanatical does someone have to be for you to qualify as a fanatic?

    “Smear”? How is telling the truth, even dramatically, a “smear”? It’s a smear to use the facts and your own words to define you? Or is it a smear to point out that he has a lot in common with other horrible people who think exactly as he does?

    Alan Grayson is one of the best people in Washington in a long time. If the only way he can stay there is by telling the truth about his opponent (!), I say go for it. Or do you want to see Democrats rolling over and playing dead as usual?

  8. ohplease says

    Are we to wait until the maniacs have enough power in this country to start executing gays, or should we stop them now? I know which one I prefer.

    It was only a quarter of a century ago that Republicans had a serious conversation about putting gay men in concentration camps. A deadly serious conversation. Exactly what do you think American religious fanatics WOULDN’T do if they had the political power they wanted?

  9. says

    It would ONLY be over-the-top if the guy were a garden-variety Christian, which he is not. He IS an “American Taliban”—credit to Markos Moulitsas. Grayson is a terrific Democrat who deserves the support of fellow Democrats.

  10. Brian says

    No mike, they are evil. It’s not about denying our rights in concepts liek ENDA or DOMA or DADT. The GOP wants to make our acts, and thus us, illegal. If they could get away with executing us, a lot of them would. I think the parallel is totally justified.

  11. RealityCheck says

    Fair game. Advertising is all about speaking to your audience. The first way to do this is to speak the language of that intended audience. We gain nothing by speaking only the language of our peers – save that for rallies and fund-raising. The left in this country stood by for a generation while the right created a fear-based electorate, and now we are in a place to use that same fear-based language to expose them. We are foolish to not use EVERY weapon in our arsenal – we gain NOTHING by being only polite.

  12. Jacknasty says

    As usual, Grayson tells the truth, and idiots get their panties in a big wad. Suck on it.

    Webster is a nut.

  13. dveej says

    There is nothing inappropriate or inaccurate in this video. Webster and his ilk ARE as bad as the Taliban. Furthermore, I am sick and tired of you pussies tiptoeing around the minority of American religious fanatics who have political power out of proportion to their actual numbers. Grayson is a hero, and you whiners should shut the fuck up and let some leaders lead.

  14. Secret Identity says

    I agree with Patrick NYC, fight Fire with Fire. For too long we’ve taken the high road and that’s left us on the defensive.

    Give our opponents a taste of their own medicine!

  15. ravewulf says

    This is what I love about Grayson: he doesn’t play with kid gloves.

    Besides, I view these extremist Christians not much better than the extremist Muslims of the Middle East. Quite a few of them do qualify for the ranking of domestic terrorist (guy who killed the abortion doctor, people who commits hate crimes, etc.)

  16. says

    I’ve been called worse: “faggot” and “queer” by people. I’m glad Grayson has the balls to go out there and fight for us.

  17. FunMe says

    I love it!

    Grayson is a figher, and I just love how pushes back against the AMERICAN TALIBAN.

    His ad is great. That’s the only way to ensure those crazies don’t take over our government.


  18. says

    I like the ad. If I were to pick nits, I don’t much care for the “Times New Islam” font they use to write out the words “Taliban Dan Webster” at the end. It plays into the kind of Islamophobia that exists to a far greater degree on the right than it does on the left.

    But the content of the ad is terrific. Nothing crazy or outrageous about it, unless you count the Republican wingnut basing civil laws in the 21st century on the written ramblings of Bronze Age nomads. That’s pretty out there.

  19. Tre says

    Grayson ROCKS ! Good for him and calling out a religious fanatic. People in this country fail to realize that there are dangerous religious fundamentalist extremists trying to obtain political positions to impose their will on the people. This is not over the top – this is right on target.

  20. says

    I’m as progressive as the next guy, and I appreciate Rep. Grayson’s advocacy, but his methods contribute to the deficit of dialogue between the left and right.

  21. says

    A great book that lays it out there. Authored by Kos the founder of Daily Kos who time an again in his editorial posts there supports gay rights 100%

    His basic premise is that there is no real difference between jihadists and US xtianistas except that modern 21st century criminal law prohibits the xtianistas from going jihadist themselves on women and gays etc in america

    Otherwise they both want theocracy just disagree on which god to submit it to. allah or jesus

  22. Modern Meet says

    That’s my man Alan Grayson fighting fire with fire! It’s about time. I’m grateful he has the backbone but saddened by his being the only

  23. Chance says

    Jake Orlando,

    There is no such thing as bipartisanship.

    Yet Another Mike,

    How many gay people in this country have been murdered? How many abortion clinics have been bombed? All in the name of religion.

  24. ravewulf says


    The only time there is bipartisanship is when one party beats the other over the head and the beaten one submits. Unfortunately it’s usually the Republicans giving the beating and the Democrats submitting (even at the possible threat of a beating).

    We need more Democrats like Grayson who actually hit back instead of cowering in fear and giving in to Republican demands.

  25. TANK says

    Well, that inept teratoma paul bagala is against it, so you know it’s a winning strategy. These professional pundits are the canary in the coal mine, for the most part–whatever they say to do, do the opposite. Grayson’s opponnent is a frightening dominionist loony tune, and potential war criminal to boot.

  26. TANK says


    “During his time at Georgia Tech, Webster received an educational draft deferment; following graduation, he was told to report to the United States military on June 1971. The next month, while attempting to complete his enlistment, he was given a 1-Y classification and turned away from service after lifelong foot problems caused him to fail his physical exam.”

    Yeah, foot problems.

  27. says

    “Twenty-four hours after Democratic Rep. Alan Grayson launched a scalding TV attack comparing his opponent to the Taliban for his positions on women’s issues, Florida Republican Daniel Webster is pushing back.

    In a statement from the campaign Monday afternoon, Webster’s wife and campaign manager derided Grayson’s ad as “shameful” and “ludicrous.”

    But the response does not refute any of the charges leveled in the ad – titled “Taliban Dan Webster” – which claimed that Webster, a former state Senate majority leader and state House speaker, wanted to make divorce illegal and deny abused women health care. Grayson’s ad even claims that Webster “tried to prohibit alimony to an ‘adulterous wife’ but not an adulterous husband,’” and that he “wants to force women to stay in abusive marriages.”

    Webster’s response also does not address footage in the ad of Webster saying, “Wives, submit yourselves to your own husband,” and “She should submit to me – that’s in the Bible.”

    In her statement, Sandy Webster said: “”Alan Grayson’s latest attack on my husband is shameful. Mr. Grayson seems to have a problem telling the truth and no problem misleading the public. Dan has been an amazing husband and father, and the finest man I have ever known. Mr. Grayson should be ashamed of his nasty smears against my husband.””
    Even if the facts are correct — and I don’t care either way — it’s shameful that policy differences would lead Grayson to compare Webster to the Taliban. This is the Daily Kosification of congressional elections. It’s dishonest and despicable”