News: 10/10/10, Gareth Thomas, George Bush, iPad

 road 32,000 couples will marry today simply because of the date: 10/10/10.

Gt  road Gareth Thomas on the two codes of rugby: "People don't even think – they just say it automatically because it's been bred in them. A lot of them don't even know what they're talking about. They're just sayin' it because everybody says it."

 road This girl makes a hot Jared Leto.

 road A report from the Toronto Sun on homophobia in the Netherlands: "If you think Amsterdam is the gay capital of Europe, you’re half-right, but 10 years out of date. Today it’s the gay-bashing capital of Europe. Because Amsterdam isn’t just gay. Now it’s Muslim, too."

 road Mariah Carey shows up at her husband's 30th birthday party amidst baby rumors.

 road Daniel Radcliffe's wardrobe gets autumnal.

Chip  road A federal judge has ruled that the Chippendales look of a shirtless guy with wrist cuffs and a bow-tie collar cannot be trademarked.

 road It looks light the iPad might go on sale at Wal-Mart.

 road The argument for the self-driving car currently being tested by Google sounds like a good one: "Robot drivers react faster than humans, have 360-degree perception and do not get distracted, sleepy or intoxicated."

 road Like we need another reason to be afraid to fly: air traffic controllers are apparently getting more careless.

 road People really like the new Facebook movie.

 road Why isn't george Bush on the campaign trail; this election season? No one wants him.


  1. Fitzie says

    The Toronto Sun, and the other Sun Media newspapers, are the very bottom of the barrel of Canadian journalism. They constantly run pieces arguing that Canadian society is threatened by all immigration, particularly from muslim countries. When the identity of our new governor general was announced in July, the paper ran an editorial headlined “Hip, hip, hooray for the white GG.” Take Ezra Levant’s article with a sizeable grain of salt.

  2. TANK says

    Here we go with Islam apologism form moonbat crazies. You don’t get to pick your own facts, and your disgraceful “islam is a religion of peace” rhetoric because of an extreme global minority of imams who don’t believe that women are their husband’s property (there are youtube videos on the proper way to BEAT YOUR WIFE from the religion of peace), should be stuffed into cloth sacks, and that gays should be executed…is an imperative to stifle and call out as a propagandist’s lies.

  3. Max says

    Fitzie, it’s a tired old tactic of the left to ignore the issue and attack the source. The fact is that gays are brutally attacked in broad daylight in Amsterdam by Muslims. If your politically correct dogma doesn’t allow you to comprehend that, then so be it, but don’t think the rest of us are dumb enough to fall for your parrot talking points. The problem is Islamic violence, not an aversion to immigrants.

  4. InscrutableTed says

    Don’t expect balanced reporting from the Sun. It’s a tabloid. (I live in Toronto.)

    I’m not denying that there might be a problem in Amsterdam. Just don’t draw conclusions from that one article alone.

  5. Max says

    Gays get the death penalty in Iran, Mauritania, Nigeria, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Yemen, and United Arab Emirates – all Muslim-majority nations. It’s no surprise that Muslims bring their primitive brutality with them when they immigrate to Western countries.

    There was mass (justifiable) hysteria when “Christian” Uganda nearly passed a bill that would have made homosexuality punishable by death. Why do Muslims always get a free pass?

  6. ratbastard says

    Amsterdam as the gay capital is about 20 years out of date.

    The Netherlands as this leftist utopia free for all is also very dated. Mainly, the left championing mass immigration from societies and cultures that are the polar opposite of secular humanist western Europe has destroyed it.

    In the U.S., the left is responsible (along with big business / corporate interest) for championing vast mass immigration [much illegal] from backward 3rd world societies, which has likewise greatly diluted secular humanist ideals and created a dangerous, often violent conflict at the street level, even in places like NYC, S.F., Boston, etc.,

    ‘Diversity’ worship at all costs is in the process of destroying the very thing far leftists *[allegedly] desired to create, including gay rights.

    *I say alleged because if you look at popular leftist figures and ideology going back to it’s modern infancy in the 60’s, they were not gay friendly.

  7. says


    rat, what exactly are the dutch fed up with?

    Dutch liberalism? LOL The dutch will not give up their craddle to grave medical care, free schooling even university if u pass the tests, minimum standard food etc.

    If the dutch r reevaluating their immigration policy then that in no way means that liberalism is dead there. A conservative in the Netherlands would be considered a raving moonbat liberal here in the usa or canada

    European liberalism is alive and well with europe showing a much stronger econmomic recovery from their very progressive (as compared to the usa) reaction to the world wide economic recession/depression

    Immigration is not THE Liberal cause. Immigration is but 1 single issue and if europeans wish to reevaluate their immigration policies then so be it, but in no way does that single the death of european social democracy

    Immigration is an issue that is unsolvable. A country can only slow it down. Thousands of years of human history proves it is impossible to stop.

    The only proven methods of dealign with it are managing it to slow it down and a hard focus on quick assimilation to the culture being immigrated into. The allowance of muslim schools should be disalowed but that to would mean no jewish schools or xtian schools. Are u willing to outlaw all private religious schools? It is a sure way to help assimilate immigrants by forcing them into public secular schools to break the brainwashing of their parent culture

  8. John says

    Of course, it is the arrival of dark skinned people in the 1960s with their voodoo witchcraft that ruined everything. Because as everyone knows, the lily white 1950s were just a dandy old time for homosexuality in Europe, Australia, and North America. All those lovely sodomy laws, church interventions, extortion schemes, reparative therapies, etc.

    That’s precisely what we need.

    A return to the good old fashioned western values. Tolerance of the sort one finds in bastions of homogenous whiteness like Utah, Montana, and Kansas, right?

  9. Max says

    John, Muslims attack gays in Amsterdam and you launch a verbal tirade against… white people in select American states? Good little leftist. Useful idiot to the end.

  10. ratbastard says


    Europe’s traditional native population is literally dying off. Many years of far left ideology has drummed it into their brains not to reproduce, children=evil. This same ideology says they need massive 3rd world immigration to ‘solve’ their birth-rate problem. The 3rd world immigrant / migrant are, on average, more conservative, especially regarding things like gay rights and gender issues. HOW is this a good thing for homosexuals?

    And don’t fucking lecture me about Euroland smart-ass. I’m not provincial. Is the OLD line ‘European conservatives are more liberal than American liberals’ the fucking best OLD tired [and untrue BTW] shit you can dredge up?

  11. Hilmer says

    As a Dutch man I can safely say the Toronto Sun article is extremely unbalanced. In no neighbourhood in the country does Sharia-law rule the streets. Although youth of Moroccon descent are overly represented in crime statistics, this fact is openly debated, and dealt with on the local level, even by left wing politicians like in Amsterdam Ahmed Marcouch and the mayor Eberhard van der Laan.

    Also, the influx of guest workers from Turkey and Morocco happened under right-wing governments in the 60’s. The only time in the 20th century the Netherlands even had a left-wing government was a few years in the 70’s.

  12. says

    max what is ur ethnicity?

    i can guarantee that ur family tree is chock full of “illegal” immigrants to some country / into some land

    I can also guarantee that a few of ur ancestors were probably just as ignorant as modern muslims with stoning other people and probably enjoying a few burnings at the stake maybe even a few sunday picnics watching lynchings and or hangings.

    U r less ignorant (not by much) thanxs to leftist seculraism trying to break the brainwashing of religous nutz

    The muslims need their age of enlightenment and the best way to facilitate that is to outlaw ALL private religious schools and enforce secular public education of all youths to break the religious nuttery and violence of their parents

  13. ratbastard says


    Europeans are on average FAR MORE xenophobic and anti-immigrant compared to the average American (Or Canadian) BTW. And U.S. (and Canadian) government policies are more immigrant friendly than European. So to hear about how superior Euros are on this issue and others vis-a-vis the U.S. is bullshit.

    Europeans do absolutely TALK a big talk. Better than Americans. This I agree with. But scratch the surface and it’s mostly a lot of talk and big words. Lots of laws and regulations to make people do or think this or that. Problem solved! Nothing to see here! We passed a law making this or that illegal, so it’s no longer an issue! Gay discrimination [real, not fake], and gay bashing [real] are just as common in ‘liberal’ Europe as in North America.

  14. ratbastard says

    No doubt right-wing [business friendly-oriented] allowed large scale immigration from 3rd world societies into both Europe and North America because the native born population birth rates were rapidly declining. Generations have been told having kids, especially more than one or two, is bad. Bad for the environment, cost too much, etc., Solution: introduce large scale 3rd world [cheap labor] into the west. Voila!

    And why do leftist (doesn’t matter, Euro or American0 ALWAYS down-play CRIME and crime statistics, especially VIOLENT crime? They always brush it off….not a big deal…it’ll fix itself….nothing to see here.

  15. ravewulf says

    I see the conservatives are in full force today. Anyway, on to more rational discussion…

    While “robot drivers react faster than humans, have 360-degree perception and do not get distracted, sleepy or intoxicated,” they also can get bugs, errors, and get bad information from a sensor (if damaged, disconnected, blocked, etc) (I’m a computer science major, I know computers) thus is is important to have manual override for us human drivers to take over if needed.

  16. ravewulf says

    And humans are far superior to computers when it comes to pattern recognition (this is why we use captchas to identify if a user is a human or computer to prevent spam attacks)

  17. John says


    Looks like you need eye surgery in addition to a heart transplant. I wasn’t the one who brought up America. Although the question is the same regardless. You and your learned friends have proved that cities with fewer immigrants are always less homophobic than diverse ones, have you?

  18. BobN says

    Google the author of the Amsterdam article before you take it too seriously. EZRA LEVANT

    Large-scale immigration has caused problems in several European countries. As in the U.S., the primary driver is business which wants cheap labor. Japan has had declining population for decades and their solution is increased productivity. In Europe, there have been increases in productivity but they’ve been limited due to the influx of cheap labor from many countries, including Muslim ones.

    Is there more anti-gay crime? Yes.

    Is it committed by young immigrants? Yes.

    All of it? No. Far-right nationalists also join in.

  19. says

    LOL rat

    After washing ur mouth out with soap (preferably made by a brown muslim to really irk u)

    how would u solve said issue?

    1- walls have never ever worked in the long term throughout all of history for every city, empire, state etc

    2- armies throughout history have never ever worked for all cities, empires, states

    3- humanity is a moving species. We migrate. always have and is HARD WIRED into our genes. millions upon millions of years of migrations.

    How would u solve the issue?

    I offered 1 way to manage the issue….are u willing to outlaw ALL religious private schools and enforce mandatory public secular education for all children?

    another = heavily penalize businesses (overwhelmingly tend to be conservative) that hire non officialy documented workers. even jailing ceos and boards of biz that hire non legal immigrants

    force higher minimum wages for citizen workers and legal immigrants with price caps enforced on biz so they cant hike their products to try to pass on cost and ull actually see the citizens working the menial jobs that big biz across the world like to ship in from poorer countries on the cheap

    therre are many other things that will help manage the issue

    But how would u do it? walls, round ups, concentration camps, shooting massacers???

  20. says


    i forgot a biggie, actual gov $ support of world wide birth control and sex education??

    repubs in the usa flip their lids about such because of our own crazy religious nonsense about birth control being evil blah blah

  21. TANK says

    “The muslims need their age of enlightenment and the best way to facilitate that is to outlaw ALL private religious schools and enforce secular public education of all youths to break the religious nuttery and violence of their parents”

    You racist! Actually, if you had bothered acquaint yourself with the problem of global muslim violence, specifically in europe, you’d know that it’s really not their parents (though definitely some of them) who are causing a lot of the troubles (first gen usually metriculates and wants to fit in), but second, third, and fourth generation muslims who have been born and raised in european societies and reject the culture in favor of militant backward islamic beliefs coming from younger immigrants who espouse them. Of course this differs from country to country, and there are militant first generation immigrants who reject secular enlightenment values in favor of harming people due to their religious fanaticism.

    And yes, global islamic violence is a distinct problem and poses unique challenges to geopolitical stability…in fact, of all religions, it is the greatest threat.

  22. Max says

    John, you wrote: “Tolerance of the sort one finds in bastions of homogenous whiteness like Utah, Montana, and Kansas, right?”

    Then you wrote: “I wasn’t the one who brought up America.”

    Ok, sure.

  23. says

    Tank are u willing to cut the funding to organized islamic violence?

    it would require u to stop using plastics, driving a car, riding in a taxi, and stop using any electricity generated by oil

    I am not disagreeing with u or rat on the threat of jihadist islam violence whether small scale youths attacking gay men (though lilly white neo nazis do the same)or large scale islamic jihadist terrorist orgs who recieve a large chunk of their funding from oil profits and specifically the saudi royal family

    The disagreement is on how to deal with the issue. Wars only create larger pools of violent people whether the ilamic youths beating on gay men in the streets or jihadists bombing buildings

    Hell, the birth of jihadist political islam was the Iranian revolution and other muslims seeing the success of the mullahs………… BUT we the britts and the usa created that. We overthrew the democratic Iran parliamentary system and supported the shah as a dictator who outlawed gatherings and the only place to express political outrage safely was in mosques and thus political jihadist islam was born.

    round ups, shootings, walls, wars dont work and only create larger groups of violent jihadist muslims

    if people r going to bitch about the problem then also propose productive ways to manage the situation for managing it

  24. John says


    “In the U.S., the left is responsible (along with big business / corporate interest) for championing vast mass immigration [much illegal] from backward 3rd world societies, which has likewise greatly diluted secular humanist ideals and created a dangerous, often violent conflict at the street level, even in places like NYC, S.F., Boston, etc.,’

    POSTED BY: RATBASTARD | OCT 10, 2010 6:18:28 PM”

    Uh huh, nothing to say about that, eh?

    Why don’t you two love birds take your Tea Party electioneering to the Christine O’Donnell rally.

  25. ratbastard says


    I, thank God, DO NOT have the INFAMOUS white liberal European post WW2 generation guilt complex.

    No, no concentration camps. Round up ILLEGAL ‘migrants’? YES! Deport them? YES! They are a HUGE problem in America….statistically actually far worse than in the EU. I don’t feel any guilt for the holocaust,concentration camps, NAZIS, fascists, communist, millions and millions killed, etc., Neither I nor my ancestors were responsible for any of that. They weren’t imperialists, in fact they were oppressed by imperialists. That’s why they came to America. They weren’t members of the ‘master’ race. Neither were they one of the ‘chosen’ people. Neither am I on both counts

    [Before someone accuses me of being anti-semitic, I’m certainly am not. However the phrases and titles some people, as groups, give themselves (like La Raza) I find personally offensive; the implication being you are above or better than others by simple virtue of race,ethnicity,creed]

    Make hiring illegals a crime? YES! Criminally [not just civilly] businesses responsible for hiring illegals? YES! Genuinely reform how social services function? YES! There are MANY in America who shouldn’t be collecting any social services or who are part of multi-generational welfare addicts. They have bankrupted and corrupted the whole system.

    I’m quite open minded and liberal on many issues like of course gay rights. I believe people should have the maximum amount of freedoms and the government shouldn’t stick it’s nose into so many facets of people’s lives. But, I’m not stupid. There are A LOT of things so-called ‘progressives’, i.e. leftists, ‘liberal’ push that I totally disagree with. Just because I’m homosexual doesn’t mean my commonsense goes out the door.

    And there are many ‘conservative’ ideas I disagree with.

    And, sorry if my ‘bad’ language bothered you. I’m sure you’ve heard the F-word before. I doubt if I’ve corrupted you.

  26. says


    just how do u propose to round up possibly 20 million people in the USA?

    That is not an easy task and a case could be made that it is an impossible task

    Please reveal ur ethnic background. U still haven’t. Im hoping its not an easy one like Scots , The Antonine Wall and the hadrian wall anyone??? Both stretched from coast to coast and the antonine was 15 ft thick and 10 feet high manned by many garrisons that did not work

  27. SteveC says

    I live in Amsterdam, and have done for 10 years.

    That article is hysterical and biased.

    Amsterdam is a far safer city to live in as an openly gay person, than any city in North America.

    Having said that, it is less safe these days to be openly gay in Amsterdam, than it was 10 years ago. Homophobic attacks are certainly on the increase, but nowhere near the levels they are occurring at in the US

    But the idea that there are marauding gangs of muslim youths terrorising the gay population is simply untrue. This isn’t a backward city like New York or San Francisco, where gay people are denied the right to marry

    For starters the gay community is by far the biggest minority population in the city – about 20% of adults in Amsterdam are gay.

    The rise in homophobic attacks is openly discussed in the country. It is not being swept under the carpet as happens in many places.

  28. Max says

    John, I don’t understand what you are asking me about Rat’s quote. There is a strong correlation between the increase of immigrants from Muslim countries to the Netherlands and anti-gay attacks in Amsterdam.

    I’m not sure why you ignore this reality and attack Utah, Montana, Kansas, white people, the Tea Party, and O’Donnell. Stop looking for excuses for Islamic violence. The attackers alone are responsible for their actions.

  29. SteveC says

    And I’d also like to point out that homophobia in the Netherlands certainly does exist. But not to the toxic level, where Dutch gay teens feel so isolated and alone that they feel that their only option is to end their own lives. Gay teen suicide seems to be at epidemic levels in the US. The US does not seem to be a good place in which to be a young gay person. Sort your own hideous suicide level out before passing judgement on the Netherlands, where gay teens are able to come out without the hysterical condemnation of the mainstream churches and political parties.

  30. ratbastard says


    My ethnicity is American. I was born, raised and now live in the United States of America. My passport says citizen of the United States of America. I served in the Armed Forces of the United States of America.


    Are you an American living in Europe?

    I don’t doubt the article contains it’s share of hyperbole, but it also contains plenty of truth.

    BTW: America and American cities are on average not dangerous for people just because they’re gay. That is also an exaggeration. It’s not the wild west many Europeans fantasize the U.S. is. The U.S. is a big place. Example: the Oklahoma town the gay teenager just killed himself in is further away from me than London is from Moscow. Many things that occur here get magnified and spread all over the world quickly.

  31. Rowan says

    Why do Rat, Max etc have an opinion on a frigging continent you don’t leave in?

    How peculiar.

    John etc agree. As a person who has lived in Europe my whole life, it’s all hysterics and I wish they wouldn’t try and make us sound as mad as Americans or Canadians.

    No offence but the ancestors purposefully left Europe because Europe wasn’t religiously zealous enough, so really everyone in the Americas are pretty mad and extreme people.

  32. SteveC says

    Yes I’m an American living in Amsterdam.

    yAnd yes I know that there are certain grains of truth in the original article.

    The article doesn’t point out that the police and the local government take any rise in homophobia VERY seriously here.

    It is routine to see same sex couples holding hands in this city.

    It is routine to see a million people line the streets for Amsterdam Gay Pride.

    It is almost inconceiveable that a Dutch politician would be in the closet.

    Muslim youth may be causing some minor skirmishes, but the idea that Amsterdam has suddenly become dangerous for gay people is simply not true.

    Mexicans immigrants seem to be the bogeymen in the US at present. The Dutch far-right like to paint Muslim youth in Amsterdam in the same way.

  33. ratbastard says


    Mexican immigrants? ILLEGAL [MILLIONS Steve, tens of millions] Mexican and others, are the problem. Do you understand the difference?

    BTW Steve, the prisons in southwest states are overflowing with VIOLENT repeat offenders many [30% and above] ILLEGAL ‘immigrants’. L.A. and other places are over-run [no exaggeration] by ‘ethnic’ gangs with many illegal ‘immigrant’ members. The U.S., Steve, has a very big problem along our southern border with human trafficking, drug trafficking, and other illegal and VIOLENT activity. It makes the EU’s illegal immigrant problem pale by comparison. It’s no joke Steve.

  34. Atheist says

    ANDY – GARETH THOMAS IS NOT TALKING ABOUT HOMOPHOBIA. PLS READ PAST THE FIRST PARA. He is talking about RUGBY! I quote: “He (GT)could be talking about the homophobic chants he endured during a game at Castleford last year, but he’s not. He’s talking about the antipathies that exist between the two codes of rugby”.

  35. ratbastard says


    My country, the U.S., doesn’t have an official state sponsored religion, unlike yours. Never has. There is strict separation of church and state.

    I am not religious Rowan [not that that is necessarily a bad thing]. I live in a part of the country with few ‘religious’ people. MOST Americans [and Canadians] are not religious fanatics Rowan.

    You need to travel more Rowan. Get out of ‘Europe’ [I assume you mean the UK, i.e. England, Wales, Scotland and N. Ireland?]

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