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Police Raid Gay Dallas Bathhouse, Arrest 11

For the first time since 2003, police entered Club-Dallas, a gay bathhouse in the Deep Ellum district of East Dallas, and arrested 11 people, the Dallas Voice reports:

Dallas "Ten patrons of The Club reportedly were charged with either public lewdness or indecent exposure, while one employee was charged with interfering with police. DPD would only release records related to three of the 11 arrests, saying Dallas Voice needed to file a freedom of information request to obtain additional details. Laura Martin, DPD’s liaison officer to the gay community, said the vice unit raided the establishment on Swiss Avenue in response to a complaint. But police wouldn’t say who had complained...The Club Dallas on Thursday, Oct. 14 issued a one-sentence statement about the raid. 'The Club Dallas management is committed to pursuing justice for and defending the rights of each of its members,' the statement read. The Club reportedly helped bond out arrested members from jail and has offered them legal representation. Martin, meanwhile, warned that additional police activity at the business is possible."

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  1. I bet the police had a hard time getting the cuffs around their fat wrists. And they had to be careful not to break the wrists of the other men's brittle old bones.

    Posted by: Rory | Oct 18, 2010 8:15:32 AM


  2. Damn Rory... damn damn damn. smh.

    Posted by: Drew | Oct 18, 2010 8:20:02 AM



  3. You know. You can make jokes about this if you want. But it;s getting very eerily like the persecution of the past. People being fired for being gay, a rise in Gay Hate Crimes and murders rising, bars being raided, what few bathouses there are being raided, LGBT books being taken off library shelves.

    This isn't funny. It's actually very scary

    Posted by: Jeff | Oct 18, 2010 8:35:43 AM


  4. Meanwhile, violent crime is at an all time high in Oak Lawn. Seems like every weekend someone is either held up and robbed at gunpoint or gay bashed by a group of thugs, then robbed. So, rather than up patrol and protect citizens the DPD raid a bath house. Priorities, priorities.

    Posted by: Jon Lee Hart | Oct 18, 2010 8:39:28 AM


  5. I agree, Jeff, this ridiculous action certainly seems like a real throwback to past actions against gay men in particular. I ask just what kind of "complaint" would sanction a vice squad raid on a bath house in 2010? On the other hand, Dallas has been a very conservative community. Perhaps the upcoming mid-term elections made someone feel the need to show their policing strength toward certain members of the Dallas gay community. After all, this bath house has been a local institution for decades. So, not only why a raid now but why one at all?

    Posted by: Rob | Oct 18, 2010 8:46:50 AM


  6. @Rory
    Your comment disgusted me! I had to check to see that I was on the right web page, thinking that somehow I'd followed a wrong link that led me to Fox News. The persecution of gay men in a bathhouse by the police is not a laughing matter. Considering what's going on in the rest of Dallas re: real crime, I can't believe that the police even have time to investigate a "complaint" in a private club. One officer was overheard saying: “I’m going to have nightmares forever after this.” Really. How do you think the patrons will feel, some of whom might not be out to friends and family. Not only might they be outed, they could also face up to a year in jail and/or a $4000 fine.

    It's persecution of gay men and considering the homophobic climate in parts of the US right now, especially Texas, it seems as though this is just a sign of things to come.

    Posted by: Gigi | Oct 18, 2010 9:00:03 AM


  7. Dallas police department is full of thugs. Google it. The only reason it's getting raided is because it's a developing area and the Dallas bus and rail system, DART, wants the business out of there.

    It's politics.

    Posted by: dattexas | Oct 18, 2010 9:02:24 AM


  8. Rory, that comment was not particularly helpful or insightful.

    I have a real problem with the government coming in and raiding lawful businesses. As long as they don't bother the neighbors, how can this be legal? Smaller government indeed... Republicans are sooo transparent.

    Posted by: The Milkman | Oct 18, 2010 9:11:26 AM


  9. Bathhouses still exist? Who the frig goes to them? Who the frig owns and operates them?

    Posted by: ratbastard | Oct 18, 2010 9:20:54 AM


  10. Focus, Rory. Focus, Ratbastard. The point is NOT to demonstrate your own sense of superiority. The point is an unwarranted attack on a quiet, LEGAL, business that last time I was there looked better than the neighborhood. I've been to this Club a couple times when on business trips to Dallas. It's a nice break for those of us not into the judgemental narcisism of the bars scene. Sure there are old men, fat men, ugly men - but so what? Everyone wears towels or less and the attitude is quickly dropped. I know there were private room activities goign on, but the important word there is PRIVATE. I just went to hang out at the pool, but I certainly would have qualified for "indecent exposure" (even if I always thoguht I was pretty decent) and would have been arrested. Yet nothing was going on at that pool more then at a breeders resort with a no suits option pool. BE ANGRY, BE OUTRAGED, PLEASE DON'T BE SMUG AND SELF-RIGHTEOUS!

    Posted by: Rob | Oct 18, 2010 10:12:13 AM


  11. Good. Shut it down. I cannot stand these AIDS cesspools. I wish they would shut them all down. They give the community a bad name.

    Posted by: Mike | Oct 18, 2010 10:19:23 AM


  12. "It gets better."

    Not really. It just repeats.

    Posted by: Synnerman | Oct 18, 2010 10:23:54 AM


  13. "The member said the officers were carrying plastic flexcuffs and detained him for 45 minutes even though he was just working out in the fitness area.

    He said he believes the city is trying to shut down The Club to make way for redevelopment around the new DART station that sits next door.

    The member said he was also at The Club-Dallas the following night when the fire marshal paid a visit."

    Obviously they're targeting it and obviously it's homophobic and it's sad that there are idiotic gay people who support this kind of nonsense.

    Posted by: Kevinvt | Oct 18, 2010 11:00:46 AM


  14. Police entered a gay bathhouse and arrested 11 for indecent exposure.

    Police entered a Walmart and arrested 12 for shopping.

    Police entered an Olive Garden and arrested 13 for eating dinner.

    Posted by: Kevinvt | Oct 18, 2010 11:02:12 AM


  15. What they didn't mention was the meeting of the Dallas men's Republican club going on inside.

    Posted by: anon | Oct 18, 2010 11:04:06 AM


  16. Sounds like RORY was there himself, and full of self hate as well. I wonder how many of those busted were registered republicans? Not that closeted Democrats are any better, just fewer.

    Posted by: patrick nyc | Oct 18, 2010 11:08:34 AM


  17. Lots of men go to bath houses for many different reasons. It's a safe alternative to hanging around rest areas or soliciting hustlers on the street. Men who aren't up to prevailing standards of male fashion and beauty have a chance to connect for sex and even for socializing without sex. And bath houses generally provide safer sex info, condoms, free STD testing in cooperation with local health departments. If men persist in careless conduct, it's not as if they're not getting plenty of information to discourage it. Comments from sex puritans are usually uninformed or, in the case of a recent report by the cute but often merely silly Davy Wavy and his caffeine-hyped friend, reek of youthful condescension.

    Posted by: CoMo'mo | Oct 18, 2010 11:20:11 AM


  18. "Bathhouses still exist? Who the frig goes to them? Who the frig owns and operates them?"

    Yes they do. And gay men (some closeted, some not) go to them. Men like to have sex, surprise! And there are businesses that cater to that desire. (Just as straight men will always have their sexual outlets.) Whether one personally approves of them, or not, is not the point of this story. No one is forced to go to a bathhouse for sex. But those who do go to a lawful business to have sex in a safe environment (safer than internet hookups) should not be subject to idiotic invasions of privacy by thug police who should have more important things to do. Funny how these police raids always seem to be the product of anonymous "complaints." The question isn't who's going to bathhouses, but why our privacy--in 2010--is still at the mercy of the closeted moral police. Isn't this supposed to be the era of less government?

    Posted by: Ernie | Oct 18, 2010 11:29:06 AM


  19. @ Rory: People get their freedoms taken away by the state on trumped-up charges and your response is to make fat and old jokes? Even if you're just trollin' you're fucked up. Seriously: one messed up dude. Conduct a little self-analysis, at the very least.

    Posted by: Guest | Oct 18, 2010 11:59:26 AM


  20. i was always under the impression that bath houses were private clubs and if that is the case, how in the hell would the dallas PD be able to make charges like public lewdness even stick?

    Posted by: alguien | Oct 18, 2010 12:34:17 PM


  21. My theory is that someone was rejected at the bath house and called in to say that there were illegal activity going on (drugs, prostitution, etc) and hence the bust.

    Posted by: Allen | Oct 18, 2010 1:26:05 PM


  22. I've never been to a bath house, nor had any desire to, but this is nothing more than blatant discrimination. I've never really understood what else they think would go on in one. Is it a public place where children or anyone that doesn't want to be exposed to that kind of thing would see it? No, so I don't see what the issue is. I lived in Dallas and had a friend that worked at Club Dallas. I thought it was a private club, but maybe I'm wrong.

    As for them giving gay men a bad name. There are straight sex clubs and bath houses, as well. I refuse to spend my life worried that something I do might offend some straight person. To most of them, the fact we like the same gender is giving us a bad name.

    Not one person I know that is HIV positive got it from going to a bath house. That's just ignorant and sounds a lot like the arguments that the fundamentalists use against us. It's not 1985.

    At this rate, before long I'll be drug out of a gay bar for holding my boyfriend's hand.

    Posted by: Chad | Oct 18, 2010 1:27:04 PM


  23. rory, that was...very funny, and spot on. Those who attend bathhouses are closeted older married men, whores (both the pay and mommy daddy issue kind), and other undesirables that collectively bring us all down. It's definitely for older people...created exclusively as a response to homophobic persecution...and thankfully, they're dying...as no one under thirty five goes to these places, or has ever gone.

    However, the cops here were fag huntin'...and they saw an easy target...dollars to donuts (pardon the pun...) the patrons don't press charges against the pigs because they're closet cases and don't want the publicity.

    Posted by: TANK | Oct 18, 2010 1:39:56 PM


  24. Tank - You are a moron. I am 29 and have never been to a bathhouse either. However, I have many friends (some under 25, some older than 60) that go. Some of the guys are very handsome with great bodies, etc.

    The fact that the police are raiding these establishments is a concern you dope. Nobody brings you down but your own negativity.

    If people want to go to a private club, whatever their age/appearance - WHY DO YOU CARE?

    Don't bother bringing up stds/aids, people can catch anything/anywhere. It is up to each individual to play safe if they care to.

    "Thankfully, they're dying" - Your negativity is more horrifying than anyone in that bathhouse.

    Please stay clear of the NYC area!

    Posted by: Justin | Oct 18, 2010 2:03:21 PM


  25. Eh, shaddup your stupid mouth! Look at the trends...gay people who matter don't go to bathhouses (young gay people). Sure, you may happen to know a lot of fucked up peeps...but that's more about you than the reality of a median age of gay men who go to bathhouses nowadays. Now GFY!

    Posted by: TANK | Oct 18, 2010 2:13:02 PM


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