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Chris Matthews raises the hackles of Dan Choi, asking why no Republicans are on board with DADT repeal, and what the President could possibly do to help out.

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  1. Chris Matthews is a douche.

    Posted by: sfdj | Nov 11, 2010 8:50:33 PM


  2. As much as I admire and respect Dan Choi, I must say this was a fail on his part in this interview. Too bad. Chris Matthews does have a tendency to yell over people, but Dan should have been more coherent in his responses.

    Posted by: Andrew | Nov 11, 2010 8:58:25 PM


  3. Well fuck, of course the guy is agitated. Here he is trying to raise awareness of the issue day in and day out, and Chris Matthews wants to him to stick to the MSNBC narrative of "REPUBLICANS EVIL OMG" when Choi sees the issue as it is, not as a convenient springboard for Matthews to bitch about Republicans.

    Jesus Christ.

    Posted by: Jason 2 | Nov 11, 2010 9:00:33 PM


  4. Dan Choi is an embarrassment. What a child. Wish he'd go back to his "boycott" of MSNBC. Alex Nicholson is a much better advocate who knows what he's talking about. I wish he'd been given more time to speak.

    Posted by: George | Nov 11, 2010 9:01:34 PM


  5. Does Chris Matthews *ever* allow anyone to finish a sentence?

    Posted by: peterparker | Nov 11, 2010 9:03:13 PM


  6. Finally, someone asks Choi the tough questions. Matthews put him is his place. Choi wants to blame Obama because he is trying to fracture the gay rights movement so he can be an anti-establishment leader and feed his ego. But Matthews gets him to basically admit Obama could not have done ANYTHING to get a single Republican vote. In fact, Obama calling republican senators before the vote would have made it even WORSE.

    Posted by: Mike C. | Nov 11, 2010 9:11:31 PM


  7. Dan Choi is just not impressive and not intelligent by any measure. He is clearly in over his head.

    Is this the best we can do?


    Posted by: Marty | Nov 11, 2010 9:15:11 PM


  8. I want to know the answer to the question "why are Democrats (the enemy) when every single one of the Senators have or would vote for repeal"?

    Posted by: anonymous | Nov 11, 2010 9:17:18 PM


  9. I've said it before, Choi is a loose cannon. He is out of control and needs to be reined in.

    Posted by: niles | Nov 11, 2010 9:22:59 PM


  10. Wow, even WE'RE polarized on this. For my part, I think they it was a great interview with frustrated people expressing their feelings and thoughts on an intractable issue. Matthews was forcing Choi to face some facts that none of us like, and Choi continues to fight impatiently for a cause that we want to win but that is not going down the way we'd like. They spoke intelligently but emotionally. The unfortunate reality is the new Republicans may have the power to prolong DADT for years.

    Posted by: JeffDalon | Nov 11, 2010 9:27:47 PM


  11. The reason why the Republicans are not on board with the repeal of DADT is politics. Each party has their coalition of supporters. As simply as I can state it, the Republican coalition consists of the wealthy and the bigots. In order for a Republican to be elected, he or she has to get the support of both the wealthy and the bigots, otherwise the Democrat will win the election.

    Sure, 70% of the nation supports the repeal of DADT, but about half of the nation is Democratic and the other half is Republican. If a Republican supports the repeal of DADT, then the result will be the loss of support of the bigot Republican base and an election loss.

    Chris Matthews understands politics. He has written books about it. He should be smart enough to figure this out. It is not rocket science.

    By the way, Chris Matthews NEVER allows a guest to finish a sentence, and that is one of the reasons why I don't watch his show.

    Posted by: Bryan J Blumberg | Nov 11, 2010 9:28:56 PM


  12. Dan Choi is an *ss. I appreciate that he's passionate about this issue, but he's an *ss all the same.

    Posted by: joe | Nov 11, 2010 9:42:10 PM


  13. Choi is very unimpressive and caught up in the narrative found on this site too frequently that the Democrats are as bad as the Republicans when it comes to gay rights. The Democratic House has already voted for repeal. And as Matthews correctly pointed out 56 of 58 Democratic Senators are ready to vote to repeal DADT, but we need 60. How many Republicans have committed to vote for repeal during the lame duck session? ZERO! Did you hear that? ZERO! May I say it again? Z E R O !!! And one more time for the Obama hates... Z E R O ! ! ! That's right, not one Republican Senator is ready to vote to repeal DADT, but Choi could not admit that gays have a Republican problem because he can not get over his obvious personal hatred for President Obama for not unilaterally ending DADT. Republicans have no interest in us. Gay Republicans are the true masochists in the gay community - not the leather guys in the S&M bars.

    Posted by: JimSur212 | Nov 11, 2010 9:43:17 PM


  14. Dan Choi needs a coach. There were simple answers to Chris's questions. I would say that he's nervous, but he's done so many national interviews that it's not an excuse. He's basically the face of DADT repeal in the cable news media, and he needs answers to these questions. Chris wasn't asking anything that cannot be answered intelligently.

    When asked, "Why no republican votes, even though Americans are behind it?" Choi could have easily said, "I think Republicans know that their base is either indifferent or opposed to repeal, whereas the democratic base is strongly supportive of repeal. Republicans lack the courage to deal with this issue, and they know they can get some leverage out of opposing it because they know it was an important part of Obama and the Democratic congress's mandate in 2009." Easy answer.

    Then Chris asks what Obama can do when this is a Congressional Issue. Choi only has to say: "President Obama is the Commander and Chief, he has power via executive order to halt the discharges under DADT via his stop-loss power. That is not a permanent fix, but it guarantees that not one more than the 14,000+ soldiers that have been discharged will face this unconstitutional law until Congress or the Courts repeals it. And speaking of the Constitution, the President could have the gumption to actually declare that he thinks the policy is unconstitutional, which he hasn't said that he does. The President could also instruct his Dept. of Justice not to appeal this law in the courts, etc."

    And then Chris asked him about the courts, and Choi didn't even appear to have even a basic interest in or respect for appellate procedure. It is true that a federal district court has rule the policy unconstitutional, but until that is not a final ruling, it is always subject to appeal until it reaches the Supreme Court or one side chooses not to appeal it. He needs to be able to articulate that he understands that and respects our courts, even if the law is unconstitutional in his mind.

    Chris wasn't giving him very difficult questions. I think Chris probably thought they were softball questions. And Chris is on Choi's side in this, he's supported repeal for the policy for a very long time. Choi just needs to stop being so defensive and get some talking points.

    Posted by: Anthony Catalino | Nov 11, 2010 9:46:05 PM


  15. Dan Choi just embarrassed himself. He was so eager to say what he wanted to say, and was totally thrown when Matthews asked him a question. I mean, sometimes Chris can be a blowhard, but in this case, he was totally correct. Dan was being an idiot.

    Posted by: Jon B | Nov 11, 2010 9:48:18 PM


  16. I guess I'm supposed to believe Choi is fighting the good fight and all that, but increasingly I cannot get it out of my mind when watching the guy speak and posture that I'm looking at a Fame Whore.

    Does anyone really believe him when he says he wants to rejoin the military and just shut up and do his job, give up the interviews and the gay adulation and the award banquets?

    Posted by: derrysf | Nov 11, 2010 10:07:36 PM


  17. JimSur212 - How many phone calls did President Obama make to Senators (Democrat or Republican) when this first came up in September. Oh right, ZERO! How many Senators (Democrat or Republican) did he personally lobby to vote for the Defense Authorization Act or the DADT repeal? Oh right, ZERO! How many times did he call Senator Harry Reid to ask him to stop playing politics and allow limited amendments, which Republicans were screaming for and that many Democrats called for as well? Oh right, ZERO!

    Right up to the vote, Republican Senators Snowe and Collins of Maine, and Brown of Massachusetts were all signalling that they supported the repeal vote, but were being held back by Harry Reid's bullshit gamesmanship. Add those 3 to the 56 saying yes, and add Harry Reid in, and that all adds up to 60 votes. We could have had this done, but Harry Reid played games, and Barack Obama completely subtracted himself from the issue.

    Posted by: MrRoboto | Nov 11, 2010 10:50:53 PM


  18. When I read all these put downs of Dan I can't help but wonder what have any of those complainers ever done to serve their country or the cause of human rights? Are they jealous of him? Are they really that afraid to stand up or stand out and be counted? I really don't get it. He just seems to me to be a very passionate man who stands up for what he believes in. I think that is a very admirable trait.

    Posted by: chuck | Nov 11, 2010 11:05:23 PM


  19. Ahhhh you got to love the Obamabots on here. Why is the president as big of a problem as the Republicans? Let summarize it. First the president never wanted DADT repeal to come up this year. The only reason it did was because Nancy Pelosi pushed it. The WH then pushed on the House Dems to do two things. One was to put in the provision that DADT is only repealed when Obama, Gates, and Mullin sign off on it. Second they pressured them to strip the non-discrimination language.
    Next the President and the Department of Defense commissioned the study and scheduled it not to be released until after the election a true act of political cowardice. They knew the odds of passing it after the election was slim and none. This was the biggest betrayal.
    Lastly those who keep arguing that he had to appeal the court decision need to do their homework. Other presidents have not appealed ruling when they felt it was unconstitutional. No precedent is being set. Clinton refused to appeal a ruling that found the Dornan amendment unconstitutional. Look it up.

    Posted by: Tim W | Nov 11, 2010 11:17:16 PM


  20. Good grief, Matthews, let the soldier speak.

    Posted by: Dback | Nov 11, 2010 11:38:36 PM


  21. I channel-surfed past this, and am convinced more than ever that all talking heads want to do is stir up controvery for ratings. Matthews wouldn't even let Dan finish a thought without interrupting him constantly.

    Posted by: ACe | Nov 11, 2010 11:39:31 PM


  22. [make that 'controversy'!]

    Posted by: ACe | Nov 11, 2010 11:41:13 PM


  23. Disheartening to see all the Dan Choi hate here. Sorry he was not tactful enough for you lot, or that he allowed personal passion on this issue to show through. Comments like "he needs to be reined in" are distressing. I echo some posters in asking, what have YOU done for gay advocacy, how have YOU served your country, when did you lose your job because you were gay? He is angry and it's okay for him to show it.

    Posted by: earthlingdave | Nov 12, 2010 12:01:27 AM


  24. Tweety is such a douche bag. WHY is he still on TV?

    He's losing his "blonde" hair, has a turkey chin, he spits when he talks, he never lets people answer the questions ... he looked REALLY bad in this interview.

    Lt. Dan Choi as always is a hero. He is expressing what most of us are feeling.

    We are DONE with the "working with the system" when we know the corporate whore politicians do not care about us. Therefore, we need to DEMAND we get our equality quaranteed by our US Constitution.

    Enough with this bull shit about what others "think". It's time to get mad and demand our rights NOW!

    "I'm mad as hell I'm not going to take this anymore!"

    Did I mention how douchebaggy Tweetie acted? How embarrassing!

    Posted by: FunMe | Nov 12, 2010 12:06:28 AM


  25. Let's do a roll call of the Obamacrats/OFA/OutProud/closet queens/Democratic PartySell-Outs/HRC of course!/Obama's boyfriends (OK, sorry I'm rude, I mean "Obama adminstration):

    1. "George"
    2. "Marty"
    3. "Anonymous"
    4. "Niles"
    5. "JeffDaLon"
    6. "Joe"
    7. "Anthony Catilino" (skipped most of your rant)
    8. "JohnB"
    9. "DerrySB
    10. "JimSur212"

    I would not be surprised if these ass hats were one and the same.

    Can you imagine black people putting down MLK, Jr. when fighting for THEIR own rights.

    Trust these queens (or is it singular QUEEN) just come in here to criticize Lt. Dan Choi, and I just laugh. Why? Because they are SO TRANSPARENT. I don't know what they are trying to accomplish other than bring in some comic relief at their hilarious posts.

    Mr. Roboto, Chuck, TimW, and EarthlingDave ... don't be worry about what these queens do because if they were really gay and for our cause they wouldn't be posting their bs here. Too funny!

    I see that ALL THE TIME whenever Lt. Dan Choi puts the CORPORATE WHORE MEDIA in its place.

    I love it!

    Go Lt. Dan Choi!

    :-) :-) :-)

    Posted by: FunMe | Nov 12, 2010 12:19:10 AM


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