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Watch: Joy Behar, Andy Cohen Discuss Carrie Fisher's Outing of John Travolta

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Was it right for Carrie Fisher to tell The Advocate:

"Wow! I mean, my feeling about John has always been that we know and we don't care. Look, I'm sorry that he's uncomfortable with it, and that's all I can say. It only draws more attention to it when you make that kind of legal fuss. Just Leave it be."

Joy Behar and guests discuss, AFTER THE JUMP....

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  1. Whether or not John Travolta is gay (I believe that he is) is beside the point. The fact that we live in a society where one feels he must hide his true self to please others - this bothers me much more. We're certainly making progress with respect to public acceptance of gays and lesbians; there are more of us out publicly than ever before. However, lest we forget, try to remember what it was like for Ellen when she came out: her show was canceled and she was a pariah. She's doing amazingly well now but that was never a given.

    Travolta will never come out. The "church" won't let him. He'll stay locked in his closet along with his other little Cruisey friend and live that way until the end of his days. Now all he needs is for Ted Haggard to come to his defence!

    Posted by: Gigi | Dec 15, 2010 8:01:17 AM


  2. I think we need to move past this "stigma" of outing. Yes, your sexuality is your own business - and it's rude for people to "out" you. Regarding Carrie Fischer, she did nothing wrong. If John Travolta is gay, he shouldn't be suing people for "wrongly accusing" himself to be gay. Isn't that perjury?

    Posted by: Mike | Dec 15, 2010 8:15:40 AM


  3. good for her. quite honestly, having friends in the acting field, it is NO secret that travolta sleeps with men. is he gay? i don't know. does he sleep with men? YES. has he been outed? sort of, i guess--to the general public. but most everyone in the hollywood industry knows about his sexual activities.

    and if you dont want to be caught then you need to be EXTRA careful not to be photographed or spotted at gay spas or hotels etc. eventually, it was all bound to catch up with him.

    Posted by: bostonbeat | Dec 15, 2010 8:20:57 AM


  4. If his sexuality is known to this extent (even in hollywood-only circles), is it really "outing" or just commentary? I think the latter.

    Posted by: johnny | Dec 15, 2010 8:27:50 AM


  5. Photos of him were printed in newspapers in Canada of him kissing a boyfriend on the landing of (his?) airplane on the tarmac.. I believe while he was shooting Hairspray in Toronto.

    Big whoop.

    Posted by: Dan | Dec 15, 2010 8:40:14 AM


  6. Tug down your dress, Joy, your homophobia is showing!

    "You're gay? But you're so masculine."
    "Do you think his dream role was in hairspray?"
    Yuck, yuck, yuck!!

    Posted by: Bobo | Dec 15, 2010 9:15:31 AM


  7. The rule of thumb is if you're involved in Scientology you are a closet case and they found a wife/husband for you. I mean everybody who cares to know is aware of every closet case in entertainment or can find out.

    Posted by: Jonathan | Dec 15, 2010 9:28:14 AM


  8. God that Cohen guy is sickening.

    Posted by: ggreen | Dec 15, 2010 9:42:21 AM


  9. Everyone just constantly wants his or her fifteen minutes to keep going and going and going. That's the be-all-end-all for everyone involved in this story. Even the TV clip and panelists.

    Posted by: shane | Dec 15, 2010 11:29:52 AM


  10. These people are idiots. Coming out is the only thing that has helped this society progress but according to John Travolta and Kevin Spacey (such a lady) coming out is just for the plebian average citizens who pay the price with possible discrimination and hate crimes. Celebrities can just sit out the whole coming out process and we'll do all the work for them so when the society gets good enough they can feel safe enough to go out on a limb.

    Posted by: David | Dec 15, 2010 11:48:13 AM


  11. The closet, and the closeted, are our enemies. Always been that way, always will be. Most Scientologists ping for me. Look at Lisa Marie Presley. Come ON. Will Smith cozied up to Tom Cruise after he was outed by a madam a couple of years ago for liking boy hustlers. Scientology, based on the theory that frozen aliens inside volcanoes were exploded by hydrogen bombs, is more homophobic than Catholicism. L. Ron Hubbard's son Quinton was gay and killed himself because of it. Religion, not sexuality, is a choice.

    Posted by: Jonster | Dec 15, 2010 12:12:39 PM


  12. The reality is far more complex than we would like to admit. We want to say things are black or white. Gay or straight. He may be gay. He may have gay sex. BUT he is working to deny that part of himself. He desperately wants to identify as straight. So he marries, becomes a scientologist to deny that aspect of himself, he hires a legal team to deny rumors.

    He may be really screwed up and may ultimately learn that he cannot purge the gay impulses he feels, but until he comes to terms with that, we shouldn't think that behind the curtain he is living some idyllic gay life that he is trying to hide. For a lot of people it's just not that simple.

    Posted by: dms | Dec 15, 2010 12:19:51 PM


  13. Um, hello, JT is merely bisexual, not gay. Remember LG"B"T. he just needs to get fucked sometimes, we all do !! And Joy is not homophobic at all, I did not take that comment as homophobic.

    Posted by: ty | Dec 15, 2010 12:40:23 PM


  14. Don't you just want to punch out that pushy femme Andy Cohen ?

    Posted by: JT | Dec 15, 2010 1:25:32 PM


  15. I think they missed the point Carrie was trying to make, which is that JT should not be suing people for saying he is gay. It's the suing part, not the gay part or the outing part that needs discussing. No, he should not be suing. False Light defamation claims are exceptionally context based (otherwise you could sue if someone misspoke about what kind of car you drove, etc.), and cryptic sexuality is bound to cause rumors. In other words, false light claims fail to the defense that "he brought it on himself".

    Posted by: anon | Dec 15, 2010 1:42:40 PM


  16. Is this the same Andy Cohen that demands to know what's up with Kim Z's lady love life?

    Posted by: Shawn | Dec 15, 2010 3:08:06 PM


  17. @Ty...then why doesn't he just say he's bi-sexual if that's the case?
    As for Joy, I found her comments that Andy seemed too macho to be gay, and that Hairspray was probably Travolta's dream role..to be the definition of a homophobic comment. If you don't agree with that fine...at the very least it was very trite!

    Posted by: Bobo | Dec 15, 2010 3:18:26 PM


  18. I don't care about the actors--Travolta and Spacey are irrelevant. I would like to see Anderson Cooper finally come out--that might actually help 'the cause'.

    Posted by: LAXJFK | Dec 15, 2010 4:52:34 PM


  19. Isn't it usually the case when two well-known actors marry they are doing it to cover their sexuality? It may be a stereotypical slur, but those things always come from somewhere, right?
    As noted earlier by Towelroad: Ryan Reynolds, Zac Efron, and Michael C. Hall all just broke up their celebrity pairing ...

    Posted by: anonymous | Dec 15, 2010 5:38:51 PM


  20. Celebrity romances have always been publicity stunts. Do we really care if Travolta is gay?!- at this point he is must be under the delusion that he is going to be cast as a romantic lead.

    Posted by: jaragon | Dec 15, 2010 6:12:51 PM


  21. Most actors are terribly insecure. Life is one long audition for them. They are constantly scrutinized for their looks. And, if they make it to the top, there is nowhere to go but down.

    So, I think that their fears are greater than others. Their careers are built on audience approval. Any change could put them out of public favor. And they have a circle of people - managers, agents, lawyers, etc - who revolve in orbit around them; they also have an interest in keeping them in the closet.

    It's easy for people on here to tell them to come out; it's harder in reality.
    I don't approve of them staying in the closet, but I completely understand it.

    Posted by: gr8guyca | Dec 16, 2010 5:44:59 AM


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