1. says

    They never ask him how his feelings “evolved” from endorsing marriage equality to denying gays the right to marry.

    Merry Christmas, gay folks. The President of the United States wants you to die for him, but won’t let you marry each other. Enjoy the Separate But Equalness, everyone.

  2. says

    People who not only understand (which I’m sure we all do) but ACCEPT the reality of what politics is all about see that this is theater, and see that this show is going to end with a conversion (reversion, in his case) to being pro-equality all the way. That is a good thing. I’d rather have him say, “You know what, I’m pro-marriage equality.” just because I know that’s the truth and because that benefits me. But if he can swing this in a way that doesn’t spook the parts of the country that are genuinely wrestling, that will be good for us. President Palin will be bad for us.

    I am hopeful his evolution will occur while he’s still in office as opposed to Bill Clinton’s equally phony evolution, which didn’t come until he’d been out of office for nine years. (And it would also be cool if Hillary, who has a great, internationally persuasive bully pulpit of her own, would hurry up and announce her evolution, too.)

    I was very disappointed in President Obama a month ago. Now, not so much. I’m not ready to start bitching about his imperfections again so soon after a monumentally satisfying run of successes.

  3. Scott says

    Obama is all about the long game. It is TRULY annoying at times, but so far it has totally worked with respect to “the gay agenda.”

    He knows that there is zero chance that Congress will take on gay issues for at least 2 years. Which is fine by him, because why let a wedge issue derail his re-election chances? Then during his second term, he can say “well times have changed, gays have served openly in the military for years, several states have marriage equality and the world didnt end, so its time to repeal DOMA.” Assuming of course that Dems take back Congress (unlikely until at least 2014).

  4. princely54 says

    His current statements are constrained by politics, pure and simple. This isn’t a bigoted man who doesn’t understand that separate is NOT equal. Although the numbers on gay marriage opposition have softened, it won’t happen on his watch. It will take more years than he will have in office. Like DADT, he can’t end DOMA with an Executive Order (he has even less leverage here because he can’t issue a ‘stop-loss’ on discharges) and it will, again, take an act of congress. But, we need to KEEP HITTING them with it over and over and over until the wall comes down.

  5. princely54 says

    Btw, I am looking for a good hat to eat given that I really doubted DADT repeal would happen this year. I will be similarly happy to down another one if DOMA goes away by the time Obama’s out of office.

  6. Jesse says

    I think Obama is playing a smart game. Let’s be real. George Bush was personally for gay marriage (at least that’s what Laura said). I can’t believe Obama really has a problem with it either. What he needs to do though is to get America behind him. I think he’s playing this drama to show America his path to accepting gay marriage to give everyone a blueprint as to how they too can accept gay marriage. I know it’s frustrating because we all want everything now. Realistically, that’s not going to happen and this tactic of Obama’s might have some brilliance behind it.

  7. Rob says

    I think gay marriage needs a commercial where all the gay men and lesbian women go to the back of the bus.

    Have a man sitting up front, and then when another man asks him about marriage, he starts to stand…

    “How would you feel about having to move to the back?”

  8. Matt in NYC says

    A message to all the gay Obama voters who voted Republican in the last election to “punish” Obama: How does that decision seem now?

    Repeal of DOMA and marriage equality might have stood a chance if so many people – gay, straight, what have you – weren’t so quick to judge, and so hasty to “punish” a smart guy who is doing a pretty impressive job of navigating his way through a lot of bigots and conniving politicians.

  9. Brad says

    Whatever Preznit Prettywords. You used to be for it before you were against it and now that you know you can’t do anything about it, you might be for it again. I tell you, my thoughts are evolving to not to vote for you in the next election. This is all political theater because he threw his base under the bus over and over again and now he’s trying to win back support. Meanwhile his dept of Justice is still fighting two court cases, one to appeal DADT unconstitutionality and the other to keep soldier Margaret Witt from serving in the armed forces as a lesbian. Whatever!

  10. Dave says

    You have hit the nail on the head Jesse. President Obama is leading by example making parts of his thought process as open as possible throughout his presidency. I had my doubts the first year but his legislative track record is extremely impressive. The events of yesterday brought me sobbing to my knees. It was the political equivalent of hitting three back to back home runs. (DADT, START, 911 first responder’s bill) He will be a two term president, God willing and one of the last things that he will do I predict will be to sign a bill ending DOMA.

  11. bobbyjoe says

    “If he really says what he thinks, Palin will be your next president.”

    Nope. If Obama keeps giving everyone the impression that he’s a weak, wishy-washy, “any way the wind blows” president who backs down or “compromises” on everything, THEN Palin will be our next president.

    People LIKE presidents who take a stand and actually seem tough, even on controversial issues. It’s why those who are seen as, you know, actually “leading” tend to get second terms, and those who are perceived as flailing around, offering mealy-mouthed statements rather than responses that take a hard stand, giving up and giving in all the time generally don’t. Obama was firm in what he said about gay rights during the election and he still got elected with a good size vote. So it’s NOT the “taking a stand on gay rights” that’s gonna lose him the election, it’s the perception of “not taking a stand on a lot of things once he got in office” that’ll do it.

    The people who are handing the next election to Palin are the ones who want Obama to keep backing down, compromising, and offering wishy-washy “I’m still evolving on that” style answers. Voters then just see him as a wussy and voters HATE that.

    The people who are doing the most to give Obama a chance in the next election are the ones who call for him to grow a pair and act like a leader with some fight in him. He sort of started to do that a little here at the end of DADT and with this “lame duck” Congress, so let’s see more of THAT Obama, rather than the Mr. Milquetoast we see in these “I’m still evolving” style statements.

  12. says

    I just get from that two things:

    1) He wants supporters of marriage equality to understand that he *may* switch in the future to supporting it. A bit of a tease.

    2) He’s softening the rest of the public, should he switch, so it won’t seem like a major ‘flip flop’ when he says “see, after all that time I said I was evolving, I really evolved!”

    The important thing here is 2 is only possible if he wins a second term IMO, and then probably only possible if he has majorities in Congress and the Senate to act on something like a repeal of DOMA.

    That said, I also like the hints he’s dropped that suggest because Congress isn’t going to be willing to work on a DOMA repeal or ‘compromise’ of some kind over the next two years, his DoJ may not be willing to defend it. If he takes that mantle up and stops defending DOMA on those grounds, I think I’ll forgive him for defending DADT so mightily in court for all that time. At least it’ll prove some consistency…

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