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  1. willie t boned says

    I do not support the death penalty for much – but being a traitor to your nation.

    No problem.

    Of course I would like to see Bush/Cheney and most of the Corporate Elite strung up as well as traitors.

    But in this case this is a military traitor.
    Easy call.

  2. John says

    Of all the groups out there that the Marines will listen to about how to treat traitors, Code Pink is THE one. That and there’s a pot o’ gold at the end of each one of the rainbows I shoot out of my arse.

  3. Lonnie says

    Some LGBT people celebrate being allowed to murder people of color around the world for their oil… Some LGBT people defend free speech and protest torture… Which side are you on?

  4. FernLaPlante says

    If Manning was straight these people would not be involved. Him being gay doesn’t make him a martyr, or a victim of prejudice, or gay-bashing etc. He broke the law, a very very serious law. He is a traitor and should have a fair trial and if convicted then be punished. He is not being tortured, he is in the brig. This has nothing to do with being gay and everything to do with breaking the law.

  5. Jorge says

    Lonnie:

    You might want to read the news from time to time. The US did not “take” any oil from Iraq. Resources have flowed from the US to Iraq, not the other way around. That is why the war is costing a fortune.

    Suggesting w/o a shred of evidence that the war was fought b/c Iraqis have brown skin only demonstrates your own racialism.

    Try, convict, and execute Bradley Manning.

  6. Bob R says

    Bradley Manning is not a traitor. He has not been tried nor has he been convicted as a traitor. Has he? Has the evidence against him been made public in a court of law? Do you who are so quick to call him a traitor have all the facts? Perhaps he’s as much a traitor as George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Don Rumsfeld and a host of others who have not been tried or convicted, but where the evidence would be obvious and overwhelming were there an investigation.

    Regardless of what you think of Manning and his alleged crimes, he is entitled to due process. He’s an American citizen and should not be tortured, kept incommunicado, deprived of sleep, proper nutrition and exercise and without the benefit of legal counsel. He is, regardless of his military status entitled to civilian legal representation. He is being treated the way any totalitarian state, any despotic government or leader would treat a political prisoner. Is this what we’ve come to in America? Is this the kind of justice gay Americans, any American now supports? I, personally, applaud Code Pink’s efforts and would like to see other organizations interested in justice supporting Mr. Manning. I’m sure, if I were in Mr. Manning’s place, I would appreciate any help that any group might afford me. Until now, his side is not being heard.

    I have read some of the charges against Manning, but I have not been provided with all the facts of his case. Have any of the judgmental posters here been privy to such information? If so, please share.

    To some he may be a traitor, to others he’s a whistle blower and to some a hero. In any case, he should be treated like any accused criminal and the American people should be given access to all charges against him, the evidence to support those charges and assure that he is provided his Constitutional rights to a fair trial. If you have a problem with doing that, perhaps Manning is not the traitor, threat to the nation and bad guy, perhaps you are?

    His sexual orientation should have little to do with the charges, unless he was motivated by the way he was treated because of his sexual orientation. Gay or straight, white, black, Hispanic, he is just the accused and has rights, whether some posters here like it or not. I wonder how you would feel if subjected to the same horrendous treatment as an accused that Manning is?

  7. ratbastard says

    Some LGBT people celebrate being allowed to murder people of color around the world for their oil… Some LGBT people defend free speech and protest torture… Which side are you on?

    POSTED BY: LONNIE | JAN 19, 2011 4:58:14 PM

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    Excuse me, isn’t ‘White’ or more accurately off-white, a color? And why is ‘People of Color’ OK, but not Colored People’? The English language syntax of ‘People of Color’ is tortured.

    Jared Loughner, even though he’s batsh*t crazy, is correct about one thing: People, ideological movements, institutions including governments, do use language and grammar to control and manipulate people.

  8. suede says

    Some of the comments here are disgusting and reprehensible.
    you guys need to learn to raise your consciousness.

    If Bradley did what he is being accused of doing, then he is a brave man, for it takes a lot of courage to expose crimes like the helicopter video and even just the daily logs of innocent people killed.

    They’re brown people. I’m sure some of you are simply disgusted by them, and don’t see their lives as worthy as your own. I’m sure Nationalism and religion cloud your judgement and your moral consciousness. You only need to peek out once and see what lies beyond the shroud.

    Maybe I expect too much from the LGBT populace.

  9. S says

    To all the folks who are focused on calling Bradley Manning a traitor: through his acts he has exposed numerous state secrets and, he’s let much knowledge that we the public should have known before, be known now. Spend some time thinking about the content of the leaked documents and ask why the government has been conducting itself this way before you condemn him for the crime of revealing the truth. Whistle blowers are folks who feel torn between their sense of duty and morality; and like Daniel Elsberg before him, Manning has chosen to serve the people of the USA instead of the war leaders and politicians.

  10. Bill Perdue says

    Manning is a hero, his detractors, who include racists and prowar lunatics are chickenhawks – cowards who don’t mind others doing the fighting while they cheer. They’re clones of Cheney.

    Manning is helping end the war, defeat US colonialism, and end mass murder to steal oil and other resources while saving the lives of countless GIs and civilians.

    He should be given the Medal of Honor and we should push to convene an International War Crimes Tribunal to investigate the illegal invasions and occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan.

    He’s also exposing Obama and Hillary Clinton as contemptible warmongers whose policies lead to genocide and mass murder.

    Jorge is an unalloyed idiot. He claims the war in Iraq, which is far from over, is not about the US having oil hegemony. Others, not as stupid or naive as Jorge, disagree:

    Former Republican Senator CHARLES HAGEL: “People say we’re not fighting for oil. Of course we are. They talk about America’s national interest. What the hell do you think they’re talking about? We’re not there for figs.” (Speaking at Catholic University, Sept. 24, 2007)

    Former Federal Reserve Chairman ALAN GREENSPAN, in his book The Age of Turbulence; Adventures in a New World: “I’m saddened that it is politically inconvenient to acknowledge what everyone knows: The Iraq war is largely about oil.”

    Democratic Senator JOHN TESTER: “We’re still fighting a war in Iraq and people who are honest about it will admit we’re there over oil.” (Associated Press, Sept. 24, 2007)

    General JOHN ABIZAID, retired commander of CENTCOM: “Of course it’s about oil, we can’t really deny that.” (Speaking at Stanford University, Oct. 13, 2007)

  11. ratbastard says

    @suede,

    WHO are ‘Brown’ people? And what’s the significance of a persons skin-tone being ‘Brown’ in this is discussion of Bradley Manning?

    My country [U.S.] has MANY ‘Brown’ people, in addition to so-called white, ETC., ETC., so I’m not sure what nationalism has to do with anything, at least as far as so-called race and a persons skin color.

    And I for one am not religious.

  12. ratbastard says

    OF COURSE oil and other important resources play a dominant role. Bill Purdue: Are you a leftist? Radical environmentalist? If you are, WHY have people like you helped make it so difficult to exploit resources in the U.S. the U.S. and some other 1st world nations? WHY do leftist policies make it so difficult to conduct business, create opportunity, jobs, wealth?

    And what would you replace American hegemony / Pax Americanus with? WHO will fill the vacuum? CHINA? WHO or WHAT?

  13. John says

    The best part about reading the bleatings of Manning apologists here is knowing that as a soldier Manning will be punished severely for what he has done while all the antics of his fans will do nothing to change that. Not a damn thing.

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