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Watch: Fred Karger on Whether One Can Be Gay and Republican


In a new Big Think interview, Anti-NOM crusader and gay GOP activist Fred Karger, who is considering a run for President, is asked if it's a contradiction to be gay and Republican.


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  1. Lincoln was a Republican when the Republicans were more like Democrats today. Lincoln would NEVER be a member of the GOP today.

    Posted by: PLo | Jan 6, 2011 12:50:40 PM

  2. Dear Fred: The answer is "no". Period. End of discussion.

    Posted by: jamal49 | Jan 6, 2011 12:51:45 PM

  3. Good Luck with that......You seem like a decent person / but you'll NEVER Get anywhere in the GOP being Gay.....doesn't matter what Lincoln said......you can try all you want, it aint gonna help. A Few Looneys..? Are you nutz....MOST of the GOP is NUTZ and Religious wackjobs.
    PS: I wouldn't Vote GOP EVER!

    Posted by: Disgusted American | Jan 6, 2011 12:57:10 PM

  4. "A few people in the Republican party" Nope sorry a few is the people who think being gay is ok, not the other way around Mr. Karger. Its not a courageous move when over 70% of the population thinks it should be repealed. Although I welcome their vote, hardly courageous.

    Posted by: Andrew | Jan 6, 2011 12:57:51 PM

  5. Imagine the Republican platform is a car. It's a fine car, small government, civil rights, fiscal responsibility, etc, etc.

    But even the BEST car can't compensate for bad drivers, or unsafely disruptive passengers.

    When the Republican Party starts acting like they're NOT playing grand theft auto... I'll consider joining them. Not until.

    Posted by: jexer | Jan 6, 2011 1:02:32 PM

  6. Good for you, Fred. Keep fighting the good fight.

    Posted by: LincolnLounger | Jan 6, 2011 1:03:15 PM

  7. This guy is absolutely delusional. The Republican party is controlled by evangelical Christians, Fox News and Rush Limbaugh. It will NEVER be the party of Lincoln in his lifetime. You can't un-ring a bell. The Republican party has made it crystal clear that gay people have no place at their table. Mr. Karger should acknowledge that fact, and perhaps try to start a new political party that isn't vehemently homophobic.

    Posted by: David in Houston | Jan 6, 2011 1:07:01 PM

  8. um back to lincoln and roosevelt? that would be the dems. learn your history and how parties shift over time idiot!

    Posted by: jgm22 | Jan 6, 2011 1:17:58 PM

  9. In the foreseeable future we are stuck with two very imperfect political parties. On gay rights, one of them is considerably more imperfect than the other. By being a sane gay voice Karger may help to make it less attractive to demonize non-heterosexuals. I think we should all wish him well in that mission.

    And I am sure he knows that he's pushing a heavy rock up a steep hill.

    Posted by: justiceontherocks | Jan 6, 2011 1:20:50 PM

  10. The more acceptance gays gain in the republican party, the more they are disarmed of their anti-gay weapons.

    Posted by: Randy | Jan 6, 2011 1:26:43 PM

  11. Can a Jew be a Nazi, sure it happened... Was it a good and noble idea? No.

    Posted by: Dave | Jan 6, 2011 1:33:24 PM

  12. A gay republican is a huge oxymoron. being a gay republican is like being a nazi jew or a black klansman, it just doesn't make sense.

    Posted by: Jacob | Jan 6, 2011 1:38:21 PM

  13. He's trying to do an inside job of correcting the GOP. Noble effort in vain. Maybe not. Wish you the best, Fred.

    Posted by: Adrian | Jan 6, 2011 1:40:18 PM

  14. Of course gays can be Republicans -- gay Republicans merely have to settle for being second-class and never getting attention to any of their interests.

    Posted by: Chuck Mielke | Jan 6, 2011 1:44:41 PM

  15. The Republican Party is an anti-gay hate group. A gay Republican is a self-hater and needs psychological counseling.

    Posted by: AdamK | Jan 6, 2011 2:00:33 PM

  16. Listening to this man it is clear he clings for the label "Republican" more than what it actually stands for. "Bring the party back to Lincoln and Roosevelt" - Really? Because every republican after them has been offensive, right? Right.

    Posted by: IndyTown | Jan 6, 2011 2:00:44 PM

  17. Gay Republicans think their money or station can keep bigotry away from them and always preach personal responsibility. But as soon as they get bashed or vandalized for being gay they expect everyone to come to their defense. Republicans are selfish at their core, its in their DNA along with living in constant fear. Republican gay quislings are no different.

    Posted by: ggreen | Jan 6, 2011 2:00:58 PM

  18. Also, Roosevelt LEFT the republican party and formed the Progressive Party. Lincoln and Roosevelt were both progressives. If you want today's progressives, they're in the Democratic Party.

    Posted by: IndyTown | Jan 6, 2011 2:03:11 PM

  19. Of course you can be gay and Republican Fred, just like you can be a Jew and a Nazi. Should you be a gay Republican? Well, I guess the answer is the same as whether a Jew should be a Nazi.

    Posted by: craigers | Jan 6, 2011 3:05:16 PM

  20. Wow, Fred a whole EIGHT Republican Senators and FIVE Members of the House stood up for DADT? How many didn't?

    Don't blame the gay-hatred in the Republican party on the "leadership" they are there because the rank and file want them there. Partly because of our desire to have our marraiges recognized on a federal level, because of our desire to serve openly in the military, because of our desire to adopt and raise children. It's simply not true, Fred. Not true. It's the rank and file Republicans who are behind this or those leaders wouldn't be there. They are ELECTED.

    And when you have to go back to a time when people had wooden teeth to make your case for the Republican party being progressive, you make yourself look ridiculous, Fred. The Republican party is no friend to gay people. It hasn't been for nearly fifty years. That's a fact. And you can tilt at windmills all you like and wish for sunnier skies and warmer breezes but that doesn't make them happen. The Republican party hates -- yes, hates -- gay people in the most sanctimonious, intollerable, immoral way possible. Fred, paying for TV time and making internet videos isn't going to change that and you spouting off names like Lincoln and Teddy Roosevelt only makes you seem desperate and silly. So stop.

    Face reality, Fred. We all have. We know who the enemy is.

    Posted by: BartB | Jan 6, 2011 3:19:48 PM

  21. There's a difference between being a social conservative and republican - though the mainstream republicans don't really believe it.

    Really, if they went back to Goldwater and abandoned the crazy reaganite republicans, then our country and gays would be just fine becoming republican.

    Posted by: Joe | Jan 6, 2011 3:34:49 PM

  22. Actually, need to amend my comment - I mean our country would better off because social issues wouldn't be debated over and it would be fine for a gay to want to be a republican or become one.

    However, I do not think republicans have the right answer for our country overall, even if they are only concerned with smaller government and fiscal issues.

    Posted by: Joe | Jan 6, 2011 3:36:26 PM

  23. How refreshingly free of Dem-bashing. I'll give him that.

    Posted by: BobN | Jan 6, 2011 4:06:41 PM

  24. Lincoln and Roosevelt were Republican in name only. It's a grotesque distortion for the current crop of christofascist neocons to lay any claim to them. Today, both of them would be regarded as screaming liberals, accused of "socialism," and otherwise reviled by the GOP.

    By the standards of 20 years ago, Obama is actually a moderate-to-right-leaning conservative, and would have been utterly rejected by the DNC of that time.

    Karger is a mush mouthed opportunist, the sort who would have advised Jews to join the Nazi party in order to change it from within. It'll be interesting to see how the GOP responds to his apostasy.

    Posted by: Bryan | Jan 6, 2011 5:53:02 PM

  25. "Lincoln was a Republican when the Republicans were more like Democrats today. Lincoln would NEVER be a member of the GOP today."

    Lincoln was a rabid racist, and his policies ensured practices like child labor.

    Enough with the Lincoln love. He was a Classical Liberal. Big difference.

    Republicans today are how they always were.

    Posted by: Al | Jan 6, 2011 5:56:36 PM

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